Immigration Benefit 'Equivalent to a Mars bar a Month'
03 January 2007, 06:23 PM
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Immigration Benefit 'Equivalent to a Mars bar a Month'
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New figures out today reveal that, on the Government's own figures, the benefit to each member of the native population of the UK from immigration is worth about 4p a week - or less than the equivalent of a small Mars bar a month.
In an analysis of a series of reports on the economic impact of immigration on the UK think-tank Migrationwatch has found that overall the much vaunted contribution of immigrants to the economy is very slight indeed - a finding that coincides with the results of major studies around the world.
'The Government seek to present the record immigration levels as being nothing but good news for the host community as a means of deflecting attention from some of the many problems it is causing and to neutralise the deep public disquiet they know is out there,' said Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch. 'Of course many immigrants make a useful contribution to the economy but taken in total the economic benefit is at best marginal.
'The main beneficiaries are the immigrants themselves who are able to send home about £10 million a day, not the host nation,' he said.
New figures out today reveal that, on the Government's own figures, the benefit to each member of the native population of the UK from immigration is worth about 4p a week - or less than the equivalent of a small Mars bar a month.
In an analysis of a series of reports on the economic impact of immigration on the UK think-tank Migrationwatch has found that overall the much vaunted contribution of immigrants to the economy is very slight indeed - a finding that coincides with the results of major studies around the world.
'The Government seek to present the record immigration levels as being nothing but good news for the host community as a means of deflecting attention from some of the many problems it is causing and to neutralise the deep public disquiet they know is out there,' said Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migrationwatch. 'Of course many immigrants make a useful contribution to the economy but taken in total the economic benefit is at best marginal.
'The main beneficiaries are the immigrants themselves who are able to send home about £10 million a day, not the host nation,' he said.
03 January 2007, 06:58 PM
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An anti-migration group (think tank 
) says migration has minimal benefits. How astonishing!! This report is looking at the rather short term, what are the LONG term benefits (or not) of immigration? given that we are a nation of migrants then I'd say a fair bit.
Whatever the conclusion either way, the source of this 'report' is as bad as the NL spin machine. Where's the rational reporting rather than the one end to another headline grabbing crap we keep getting exposed to?
) says migration has minimal benefits. How astonishing!! This report is looking at the rather short term, what are the LONG term benefits (or not) of immigration? given that we are a nation of migrants then I'd say a fair bit.Whatever the conclusion either way, the source of this 'report' is as bad as the NL spin machine. Where's the rational reporting rather than the one end to another headline grabbing crap we keep getting exposed to?
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03 January 2007, 07:18 PM
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Building on my earlier comment: perhaps we would be better off if we kept the worthwhile and rejected/removed the worthless? That would solve many many problems all in one go.
03 January 2007, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Building on my earlier comment: perhaps we would be better off if we kept the worthwhile and rejected/removed the worthless? That would solve many many problems all in one go.
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03 January 2007, 08:36 PM
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Does that incude UK citizens?
Get the lazy ******* out of their sleazy bedsits and out scrubbing walls free of Graffitti for their dole money. And picking up my dog's eggs after we have walked around the local park. Seems a winning idea for me
03 January 2007, 08:38 PM
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So even migration watch have to admit that migrants are a benefit to the country. When ultra right wing pressure groups can't even fiddle the figures to make it look bad you know that immigration must be a good thing.
03 January 2007, 09:04 PM
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It's a short term prop up and only based on legal immigrants paying into the system, not the unaccountable cash in handers. The legit ones are filling the shortfall in basic low level labour that normally would be reserved for no-hopers, dossers and students etc who are increasingly reluctant to fill them. These roles are taken up, and their taxation benefits us as it offsets the benefits sucked out the system by the dossers. Yay!
It's a good way to quickly plug a leak. Like blu-tak on a burst pipe. However, it won't hold long term.
When these immigrants get established, they'll use our benefits system, NHS and their children will use our schools. All of which are currently struggling now with current population numbers and demands. Not to mention that they will move up in the employment chain - providing there is jobs for them, although they have to get better paid jobs. As once established they need to afford to fund their living and family expenses like the rest of us. And if they move up to higher level jobs, providing they can, who fills their old jobs? New immigrants? And if they can't move up in teh emplyment chain, to cover their increasing living expenses, who helps these now established uk citizens?
There will be a point when there are not enough jobs and that's presuming a stable economy and companies don't cut back! Thats a gambler's game.
This country is currently too inefficient and overpopulated to run its own public services as it is, and increasing the working population won't address that anywhere near enough to cover the deficit. As what they pay in gets taken out again and spewed down the EC drain.
Don't worry though Prime Minister (or PM to be ). You'll be ousted before that happens, and leave it to your sucessors to sort out Of course the public will just blame who ever is in power at the point. So whoever is in power when that time comes is screwed.
It's a good way to quickly plug a leak. Like blu-tak on a burst pipe. However, it won't hold long term.
When these immigrants get established, they'll use our benefits system, NHS and their children will use our schools. All of which are currently struggling now with current population numbers and demands. Not to mention that they will move up in the employment chain - providing there is jobs for them, although they have to get better paid jobs. As once established they need to afford to fund their living and family expenses like the rest of us. And if they move up to higher level jobs, providing they can, who fills their old jobs? New immigrants? And if they can't move up in teh emplyment chain, to cover their increasing living expenses, who helps these now established uk citizens?
There will be a point when there are not enough jobs and that's presuming a stable economy and companies don't cut back! Thats a gambler's game. This country is currently too inefficient and overpopulated to run its own public services as it is, and increasing the working population won't address that anywhere near enough to cover the deficit. As what they pay in gets taken out again and spewed down the EC drain.
Don't worry though Prime Minister (or PM to be
). You'll be ousted before that happens, and leave it to your sucessors to sort out Of course the public will just blame who ever is in power at the point. So whoever is in power when that time comes is screwed.
03 January 2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Does that incude UK citizens?
03 January 2007, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
If only! Whenever I have suggesting interning and neutering the underclasses I have been accused of being too right-wing...
Do try and hold a cogient thought, Sir!
03 January 2007, 09:34 PM
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It's a short term prop up and only based on legal immigrants paying into the system, not the unaccountable cash in handers. The legit ones are filling the shortfall in basic low level labour that normally would be reserved for no-hopers, dossers and students etc who are increasingly reluctant to fill them. These roles are taken up, and their taxation benefits us as it offsets the benefits sucked out the system by the dossers. Yay!
It's a good way to quickly plug a leak. Like blu-tak on a burst pipe. However, it won't hold long term.
When these immigrants get established, they'll use our benefits system, NHS and their children will use our schools. All of which are currently struggling now with current population numbers and demands. Not to mention that they will move up in the employment chain - providing there is jobs for them, although they have to get better paid jobs. As once established they need to afford to fund their living and family expenses like the rest of us. And if they move up to higher level jobs, providing they can, who fills their old jobs? New immigrants? And if they can't move up in teh emplyment chain, to cover their increasing living expenses, who helps these now established uk citizens? There will be a point when there are not enough jobs and that's presuming a stable economy and companies don't cut back! Thats a gambler's game.
This country is currently too inefficient and overpopulated to run its own public services as it is, and increasing the working population won't address that anywhere near enough to cover the deficit. As what they pay in gets taken out again and spewed down the EC drain.
Don't worry though Prime Minister (or PM to be ). You'll be ousted before that happens, and leave it to your sucessors to sort out Of course the public will just blame who ever is in power at the point. So whoever is in power when that time comes is screwed.
It's a good way to quickly plug a leak. Like blu-tak on a burst pipe. However, it won't hold long term.
When these immigrants get established, they'll use our benefits system, NHS and their children will use our schools. All of which are currently struggling now with current population numbers and demands. Not to mention that they will move up in the employment chain - providing there is jobs for them, although they have to get better paid jobs. As once established they need to afford to fund their living and family expenses like the rest of us. And if they move up to higher level jobs, providing they can, who fills their old jobs? New immigrants? And if they can't move up in teh emplyment chain, to cover their increasing living expenses, who helps these now established uk citizens?
There will be a point when there are not enough jobs and that's presuming a stable economy and companies don't cut back! Thats a gambler's game. This country is currently too inefficient and overpopulated to run its own public services as it is, and increasing the working population won't address that anywhere near enough to cover the deficit. As what they pay in gets taken out again and spewed down the EC drain.
Don't worry though Prime Minister (or PM to be
). You'll be ousted before that happens, and leave it to your sucessors to sort out Of course the public will just blame who ever is in power at the point. So whoever is in power when that time comes is screwed.
03 January 2007, 10:10 PM
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Especially as half the whingers on here are blaming crap on the current Government on policy actions taken by the last of several Conservative Governments, and before that, etc, etc
At least being phucked for a Mars bar is better then being phucked by a Mars bar - well less messy anyway
At least being phucked for a Mars bar is better then being phucked by a Mars bar - well less messy anyway
03 January 2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rannoch
Especially as half the whingers on here are blaming crap on the current Government on policy actions taken by the last of several Conservative Governments, and before that, etc, etc
03 January 2007, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Good old New Labour - still trying to pass the buck for 10 years of policy disaster on someone else. When will they ever own up to their failures?
You have such a victim mentality - just because I don't agree with your prejudice then you think I must be the subject of your paranoia.
Well look elsewhere Mr Buck, look elsewhere.
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03 January 2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Good old New Labour - still trying to pass the buck for 10 years of policy disaster on someone else. When will they ever own up to their failures?
04 January 2007, 12:29 PM
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Be serious UB, would you ever expect them to own up about anything?
It must help a lot if you live out of the country Suresh
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It must help a lot if you live out of the country Suresh
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