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Old 09 May 2007, 01:10 PM
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How many of you on here are recording musicians?

If so do you have your own studios (I know one or two have )

What I want to know is that I am looking at moving all my gear into my garage and turning one of the rooms in there into a control room, but was debating whether to use laminate flooring or traditional carpet

Ive seen a few control rooms (pictures not physically) where they are using laminate/wooden flooring

How will this impact the sound, I know that there potentially will be more bouncing of the sound, as carpet will soak up the sound

Or do you just use more deflectors and absorbers around the room

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Old 09 May 2007, 01:53 PM
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I'll have a hunt round tonight and see if I can find teh short video that was done about Midge Ure's.
Old 09 May 2007, 01:59 PM
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You need 'floating' floors to do it properly. This prevents the transmission of vibration from the live room to the control room.
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Cheers for the replies

Dont really want to go down the floating floor route, I know this would be the best option, but would rather keep things relatively simple
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
You need 'floating' floors to do it properly. This prevents the transmission of vibration from the live room to the control room.

Thats doing it properly, Midge's is a couragated shed in the back garden!
Old 09 May 2007, 02:17 PM
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I have a "monkey" studio:

1 - Roland TD6K electronic drum kit
1 - Ibanez "metul" geetar
1 - Fender Jazz Bass
1 - Boss BR900 Digital Recording Unit

1 - Impreza driver who loves playing drums, guitar and bass and loves to make daft tunes!

Would love the space to do a proper garage conversion or something, at the mo its all in my dining room - much to the wifes annoyance!
Old 09 May 2007, 05:33 PM
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Tough one. Depends what stuff you want to record in your Live Room - I'd probably be looking at laminate floor (to get the nice harsh "room" sound for drums), and get loads of rugs/curtains etc to record everything else.

Why? Simple really - you don't want reflections in the room You can always add them later Drums are different though.

The big problem you'll have is Sound Proofing. Ideally, as UB says, a "floating floor", but you're talking big money if you do it right (including the walls and ceiling). You'll also lose room space/size.

Also look at the angles in the room. most rooms have right angles (square/rectangle rooms) - you do NOT want this, as it generates standing waves.

However, without a good spend, you're gonna be upsetting the family and the neighbours!!

Hope this helps

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Old 09 May 2007, 06:43 PM
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This is what I was looking for.

YouTube - Midge Ure: Studio SOS SOUND On SOUND November 2006 magazine
Old 09 May 2007, 06:45 PM
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Dan, was it you that had a thread on the build of your studio in the house?

It would mostly be vocals, keyboards and guitars, I can always get location drum recordings, as I do have a proper mobile rig now

Or get multitrack recordings of drums given to me to add tracks later on

Sound proofing isnt a major factor tbh as the garage is at the bottom of the garden about 50-60 feet away from the house, and the back of the garage is 10 miles of farmers fields

In the rehearsal studios locally they have similar sized rooms with acoustic foam around the walls, and carpet tiles on the floor, they are slightly cramped for a full band, but the sound is reasonable especially the drum kit, which is why location recording would be an easier and better sounding option

Floating floor is definatly a no no mainly due to cost and I don't want to lose too much of the room

Dry lining the walls onto battens with soundproofing inbetween the battens is sort of my idea

The 'main' room is approx 22 feet by 13 feet, with the smaller room being around 10 feet by 7 feet so yes I know rectangle rooms all right angles

How they do it in the local studio is acoustic foam at 45 degree angles in each corner, and then spaced out tiles around the main walls

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Yeh, that was me

Doesn't need to be as drastic as 45 degrees, just as long as they're not directly parallel

Found a really good piccy on Google - might be of some use



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Old 09 May 2007, 06:59 PM
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Interesting Video Simon, cant find a part 2 though

Good picture Dan, thanks for that, do you still have the link for your setup, cant find it lol

Steve
Old 09 May 2007, 07:05 PM
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This is teh written article.

Studio SOS

also if you look on the left near the top you will see all 4 vid clips.
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umm, I'm in between hosts at the moment - will dig out the studio piccies for you

Love the video - let's just say that there's a pro way to do it and then there's the semi-pro way!! Sorry just being a bit b1tchy and snobby (but I'll admit it!! )

However, it's a start. There's SOOOO much more to it than just chucking up some traps on the back wall......

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Old 09 May 2007, 07:12 PM
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Managed to find the article relating to that video, and what they actually did

Studio SOS
Old 09 May 2007, 07:51 PM
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You need an acoustically dead room for the control room - nothing should colour the sound from the reference monitors, so carpet everywhere (at least carpet's cheap). By all means have a live room for your recording room. Mic placement will control the amount of "liveness" in your source, then.
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