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63 years ago today
the D-Day landings in Normandy
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
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Indeed, however, if D-Day had failed, the only differences would have been
a) The iron curtain would have been about 500 miles further west and Germany were still defeated
or
b) It would have been done again successfully at a later date, Germany were still defeated.
And, the weather is quite good today too, just like 6th June 1944!
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a) The iron curtain would have been about 500 miles further west and Germany were still defeated
or
b) It would have been done again successfully at a later date, Germany were still defeated.
And, the weather is quite good today too, just like 6th June 1944!
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The war was tragic for everyone, not just the victors.
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the D-Day landings in Normandy
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
Indeed
Also just reading Cornelius Ryan.
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the D-Day landings in Normandy
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
almost 62,000 british troops were 'landed' that day,
approx 2,700 died on that very same day.
maybe at some time during your day today, *even just after reading this*
spare a moment or two to reflect on the hell those young men (and lets face it, most were younger than the vast majority of us on here) faced to allow us to live this way today... think for a second or two how 'different' it *might* have been..
We owe those brave men a great deal today, as well as all the other heros of WW2. And yes we should not forget those of the Wermacht who also died. Such terrble slaughter for the sake of the whims of a syphilitic madman with all his delusions.
War is obscene and should be avoided at all costs. It is usually started by politicians or leaders who have their own agenda for what they might gain from it. We see this sort of thing right up to the present day unfortunately. What a waste of young lives of those who deserved so much better from their futures.
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They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them
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Anyone who gets the chance should go and take a look at the beaches and some of the positions that were defending them.
I went on a sunny clear day just like it was on D-Day. It must have been a turkey shoot for the German Gunners.
I went on a sunny clear day just like it was on D-Day. It must have been a turkey shoot for the German Gunners.
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I won't be sheding too many tears the the politicals soldiers that were the "SS".
Fair enough extremely effective, when they wern't annihilating Russian villages.
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Brave brave men I wonder if the the 18 to 25 year old would do it today if necessary, I think not we owe them a lot without them we would not have what we have today
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You mean the same 18-25yo's who are currently facing bombs and bullets in Afghanistan and Iraq?
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It took the Americans to screw up and get caught to make the story long enough for a film
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These are still young men and women who have volunteered to take an oath to defend this country which has a real risk of costing them their lives.
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The military is an apolitical tool - The military in this country takes an oath to follow the orders given to it regardless of their own personal opinions. Don't hold the military responsible for the orders given by a Government elected primarily by civilians. The military doesn't pick and choose wars - civillians do.
These are still young men and women who have volunteered to take an oath to defend this country which has a real risk of costing them their lives.
These are still young men and women who have volunteered to take an oath to defend this country which has a real risk of costing them their lives.
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Very brave young men died on both sides. But how about this for a brave man? British World War II hero Wallace McIntosh dies of cancer aged 87
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'The present wars should never have been entered by our forces and our young men are facing death for the sake of delusions of yet another fool.'
Precisely, WW2 there was a tangible threat to the sovereignty of this country whereas Iraq was invaded on shaky ground with incorrect info which makes it,in some part, even more terrible that servicemen are dying possibly not even knowing exactly why.
Precisely, WW2 there was a tangible threat to the sovereignty of this country whereas Iraq was invaded on shaky ground with incorrect info which makes it,in some part, even more terrible that servicemen are dying possibly not even knowing exactly why.
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The parallels with Vietnam get more pointed every day. I fear we'll be in Iraq and Afghanistan for longer than ten years though.
I won't be sheding too many tears the the politicals soldiers that were the "SS".
Fair enough extremely effective, when they wern't annihilating Russian villages.
Fair enough extremely effective, when they wern't annihilating Russian villages.
I'm not saying it's the same at all, just that the people on the ground (SS, UK, US, whatever) may have no choice but to do what they're told.
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'The present wars should never have been entered by our forces and our young men are facing death for the sake of delusions of yet another fool.'
Precisely, WW2 there was a tangible threat to the sovereignty of this country whereas Iraq was invaded on shaky ground with incorrect info which makes it,in some part, even more terrible that servicemen are dying possibly not even knowing exactly why.
Precisely, WW2 there was a tangible threat to the sovereignty of this country whereas Iraq was invaded on shaky ground with incorrect info which makes it,in some part, even more terrible that servicemen are dying possibly not even knowing exactly why.
The war in Iraq can be viewed in the same way (ish ). Removing a tyrant who poses no threat 500 miles away, or removing a tyrant who poses no threat 2000 miles away, you choose......
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Never said war was inevitable, but in 1940 the tyrant was 26 miles away (well his army and air force)and we were allies of Poland and France so should we have not stuck up for them?
I believe the RAF may dispute the 'we not fighting for our lives' bit from July 1940 to October 1940 .
I believe the RAF may dispute the 'we not fighting for our lives' bit from July 1940 to October 1940 .
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Which is why it annoys me those who do not bother to get up off their backsides and vote .... then moan and moan and moan about the elected government!
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Never said war was inevitable, but in 1940 the tyrant was 26 miles away (well his army and air force)and we were allies of Poland and France so should we have not stuck up for them?
I believe the RAF may dispute the 'we not fighting for our lives' bit from July 1940 to October 1940 .
I believe the RAF may dispute the 'we not fighting for our lives' bit from July 1940 to October 1940 .
The only difference is that in 1939, the enemy gave us a bloody nose, so it turned into a fight for our survival. In 2003, the enemy was pushover, and so we are fighting for, er, well, indeed.
The UK has a fine history of being involved in wars which have nothing to do with them, why people have got so upset about this one is beyond me!
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