which would win in a dog fright between a Apache gunship and a Mil mi 24 Hind

 

Apache

 

apache everytime! the Hind is more of a troop transporter... their version of the Apache is the Havoc.... wow im a geek! lol

 

The one that got the drop on the other first me thinks

 

That would depend if Rambo was flying the Hind....lol

Oh and if you put Airwolf into the equation then Airwolf would win hands down,even with Rambo flying the Hind.

 

Havoc - agreed - used in BF2

 

jesus that looks like a tank i would have said the apache till i saw this version

 

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I always found the Havoc to plod around and was easy to shoot down

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I used to hunt the Hind with an Apache on a game not so long ago and I won everty time....

 

The Apache, but the 1984-2002 'classic' version is much better than the 2003 Block II newage version with its additional electronics etc

 

The Kamov Ka-50 would wup all their ***** without breaking into a sweat.

 

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The apache would still win - the airframe is actually pretty irrelevent.. - if we're talking about a standard weapons fit for a US/Russian aircraft.

 

Huey

 

airwolf

 

The Havoc may look more aggressive than the Apache but it's also bigger and heavier. Neither are designed to fight each other, just kill tanks.

The Kamov KA 52 is an anti-air helicopter, so that wins.

 

Too much to drink last night mate??

 

Apache is much more advanced but not really designed for shooting helicopters down - That's a job for fighter jets.

 

Bluethunder

 

Bluethunder ... pa .. Airwolf for me ..



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Steve

 

We need an experienced chopper fighter pilot to tell us!

Les

 

The Hind is significantly faster than the Apache so in the unlikely event of a dogfight between the two the Hind would probably win.

For what they are designed for (flying tanks) the Apache would be more effective due to superior electronics.

 

The Apache is also much more manoeuverable and has more advanced air to air missiles and a much more sophisticated targeting system slaved to a canon that moves with the avionics.

The Longbow version is even better.

 

I'd put my money on the apache as isn't this the one that can identify and lock onto 250 potential targets (some may be friendly fire!!) within a split second?

 

The man to ask is Simon Bradley, AFAIK he's the only one on here who's actually flown them, lucky barsteward

I'd agree with Gutmann Pug, so on that basis if the Apache were equipped with Longbow, the Hind would literally never see what hit it

The question's irrelevant anyway, the Iraqi's are proving on a regular basis that it's perfectly possible to drop an Apache using nothing more than a bombed out building and a couple of .50" GPMGs

 

or how about a hokum

 

The Apache is NOT an air to air helicopter, sure it carries Stinger AAMs but these are for self defence and are hardly advanced, being originally man portable SAMs.

The Longbow radar is designed for targeting enemy tanks, against which the Apache will fire Hellfire missiles which have their own active radar built into the nose, making them fire and forget.

The Hokum is the only craft mentioned on this thread which has, or had originally, a principle air to air mission, being able to carry AA 11 Archer missiles, as used on the SU 27 and Mig 29, and rated as about the best IR seeking AAM around.

 

Airwolf for me too.

 

Where truth be told, there have not been any serious helicopter engagements in history . .They are not designed to do any serious air battles . . And the Hind, is a heavy gunship that behaves more like a fixed wing aircraft than a helicopter . .but with better avionics it is likely the Apache could have the Hind in a dogfight , if there ever was one! . .

. . . . .The Havoc, has better flying characteristics and can outperform the Apache on almost all counts . . . . But , the reason it is not the Russian Army's main attack helicopter is that it is not all-wether . . . .That's where the Kamov Ka 50 will win hands down . .

But lads . .The more pertanent question is who would win in a dogfight . .The Apache or this charming device over here (also made in Russia) . .

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