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Old 20 August 2007, 10:31 PM
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I an still so missing my sti 5 and the track days i used to do in it. So need to get another second car. Has to be able ve take the kids to school too so all i can think that i like are scoobs or maybe an m 3. Last m 3 i drove was very under steery though. Budget is less than 10k but must have brakes to cope!any suggestions? D
Old 21 August 2007, 12:03 AM
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Shouldn't an M3 be more "oversteery" than anything ?
Old 21 August 2007, 12:20 PM
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My M3 Evo was absolutely neutral round corners even pushed over the limit, and was pretty poky too.

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Old 21 August 2007, 12:23 PM
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M3 every time.

I do not think Subaru's make good regular use track cars.
Old 21 August 2007, 12:53 PM
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M3 every time.

I do not think Subaru's make good regular use track cars.

Meaning that too may bits need replacing too often ?
Old 21 August 2007, 01:01 PM
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Yes, they like to lunch on wheel bearings, and the brakes are useless.

I just don't think you need 4wd on track.

All IMHO of course
Old 21 August 2007, 02:20 PM
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You can get 4 door E36 M3's too for the school run. Pretty rare though

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Old 21 August 2007, 03:13 PM
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I was looking at something similar and there seemed to be a fair few 4 doors, quite high mileage though as they were pre Evo I think (?) but quite cheap though.

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Pre evo are the ones to get.

Engine is bullet proof.
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Pre evo are the ones to get.

Engine is bullet proof.
I'll 2nd that the early non evo 3.0 litre m3 is the ideal track day slag built like the proverbial brick ****house!!! Cheap as chips too
Old 21 August 2007, 03:40 PM
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Anyone know how much it would cost to strip a pre evo M3 out and stick a rollcage in?

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Old 21 August 2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
I an still so missing my sti 5 and the track days i used to do in it. So need to get another second car. Has to be able ve take the kids to school too so all i can think that i like are scoobs or maybe an m 3. Last m 3 i drove was very under steery though. Budget is less than 10k but must have brakes to cope!any suggestions? D
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Old 21 August 2007, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardS2005
Anyone know how much it would cost to strip a pre evo M3 out and stick a rollcage in?

Rich
stripping it out is free because you would do it yourself. Fitting a roll cage about £300
Old 21 August 2007, 04:48 PM
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I said understeery as I drove a convertible M3 around Pembrey about 8 years ago - TOTALLY understeery. Had to use the handbrake for effect for the camera

I did have to put decent brakes and wheel bearings on my Sti V @ 40k so agree with those as weak points (kept the cracked disk for show).

Thanks for the tips - will research pre 'Evo' M3's. What does the Evo moniker actually signify?

Also (dare I mention it) a Mitsubishi Evo? Bit less common than my much adored Scoob too.

Thx

D
Old 21 August 2007, 05:04 PM
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4WD is so gay on track. No one will take you seriously.

Evo is 3.2 litre with VANOS. Not many make the 321bhp either....apprently.
Old 21 August 2007, 05:29 PM
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I got behind an M3 a couple of days ago, and it looked a very nimble car. The bloke driving it was a complete tool, on A road overtakes he would get right up the chuff of the car in front, pull out in some kind of 'days of thunder' type slingshot manouvre, then pull back in with the same kind of vigour. I wouldn't have minded but there was nothing coming the other way . I just followed him through at a distance in a diesel vectra . He was all show, no real go....like I say, it looked like a very agile car, if not spoiled by the fartknocker at the wheel.

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Old 22 August 2007, 12:41 PM
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It was a fast car Chip, and very nice to drive. I had the Evolution and the Vanos was newly replaced. The early ones had wear troubles which was fixed by using hardened running internals. Very little roll on corners-excellent acceleration, and a very civilised car when Mrs Leslie was sitting in it

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Old 22 August 2007, 12:56 PM
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M3 every time.....

or if you can afford it an M5 !!!


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Old 22 August 2007, 01:31 PM
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I was thumbing through my old copies of evo last night - checking out their target 8 minute M3 GT. Stripped out, full welded roll cage, suspension, exhaust, wheels, tyres, ram air kit worked out around £16K in the end!
Looked great and sounds like it really handled well - I think it was 0.1 seconds slower than a 996 turbo round bedford!
Old 22 August 2007, 11:10 PM
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This BMW : DAKAR YELLOW EVOLUTION COUPE. looks quite affordable for school runs and a few track days a year? Sorry if I'm on wrong forum! Would this fella be Nikasil inflicted?

Why are the E30's such heavy money?

Thx

D
Old 23 August 2007, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardS2005
Anyone know how much it would cost to strip a pre evo M3 out and stick a rollcage in?

Rich

It will take around £8-£10K to get a well sorted well set up M3
Old 23 August 2007, 07:42 AM
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A friend is selling this M3 GT

BMW : 1995 BMW M3 GT Individual Track/Race Car
Old 23 August 2007, 10:46 AM
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I saw that the other night looks really nice..... if only I had £12k spare
Old 23 August 2007, 11:23 PM
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£12k for a track thrashed 1995 car that needs 'an overhaul'??? What am I missing here?

Think I have a lot to learn,. but nice to see it is advertised as having a heater!!

D
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