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Old 12 September 2007, 09:27 PM
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Question White goods: New or second hand.....

I'm about to replace the Tumble dryer, Washing machine and Dishwasher

To replace the lot and get it to my door is going to cost £550 for relatively cheap branded but bottom end market stuff.

However, for £600 I've been offered a Miele dishwasher Miele dryer and Miele washing machine, delivered but secondhand and over 12 months old, but recent models and assured as fully working with a gentleman's warrantee.

Risks of being stung either way, but I'm tempted to go for the latter, as the alternative is the likes of Indesit, Beko (god, no), Zanussi (electrolux), and maybe the odd new-old stock Hotpoint or whirlpool if I'm lucky. All of which are troublesome from past experience, even though they will be brand new.

Which choice would you take?

And no, I'm definitely not blowing £3k on brand new Miele appliances - thats a certainty

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Old 12 September 2007, 09:35 PM
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Take the miele stuff if it looks acceptable. Its german so chances it will break after a few years are slim!
Old 12 September 2007, 09:35 PM
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Was just going to say 550 quid is dirt cheap for those appliances

Arent Miele supposed to be very good, i would ask Donna but I doubt she would know either
Old 12 September 2007, 09:40 PM
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Goal!

Sorry, now where was I ........
Old 12 September 2007, 10:12 PM
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If the second hand stuff is so good, why did the original owner sell?
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I don't think they sold it.

What happens when someone buys stuff on credit and doesn't keep up on the payments?......
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So it used to belong to a bird then!

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Old 12 September 2007, 10:29 PM
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Definetely
Old 12 September 2007, 10:38 PM
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ALi, go for the stuff that won't shrink your jeans
Old 12 September 2007, 10:49 PM
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And the winner is.....
...the sensible option
Old 13 September 2007, 12:01 AM
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Get new Neff or Bosch - similar quality to Meile but at a fraction of the cost. You might be lookin at 900 quid for the three of them.
Old 13 September 2007, 12:13 AM
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It depends what grade the white goods are?
Some are customer returns that have had use, with a component failure.
Some have cosmetic damaged but still in packaging (not used) & others the packaging is damaged but nothing wrong with the appliance & so on.

Nothing wrong with buying graded products as the company I work for gives a 12 month manufacture warranty on all goods. As for the gentleman's warranty, does not sound so good.

I have only experience in the electrolux range (aeg, zanussi & tricity bendix)
I would go for aeg products as the build & design quality is better than the other 2.

Not sure about Miele but have heard good reports but its certainly not worth 3k even when new. For 600 that is a good deal but that also depends on the spec of the appliances, which models they are & old retail value. The gentleman's warranty puts me off completely.

I would keep looking there are a few companies on e-bay offering good deals on non used graded products.

Ticky
Old 13 September 2007, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
And the winner is.....
...the sensible option
Totally agree

and they keep you warm in bed too !!
Old 13 September 2007, 01:07 PM
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Cheers for the comments guys (and gal ).

Originally Posted by ticky
It depends what grade the white goods are?
Some are customer returns that have had use, with a component failure.
Some have cosmetic damaged but still in packaging (not used) & others the packaging is damaged but nothing wrong with the appliance & so on.

Nothing wrong with buying graded products as the company I work for gives a 12 month manufacture warranty on all goods. As for the gentleman's warranty, does not sound so good.

I have only experience in the electrolux range (aeg, zanussi & tricity bendix)
I would go for aeg products as the build & design quality is better than the other 2.

Not sure about Miele but have heard good reports but its certainly not worth 3k even when new. For 600 that is a good deal but that also depends on the spec of the appliances, which models they are & old retail value. The gentleman's warranty puts me off completely.

I would keep looking there are a few companies on e-bay offering good deals on non used graded products.

Ticky
He mentioned graded. Apart from they are used and in good visual condition, I'm not exactly sure what these actualy mean. Is there A-garde C-grade or it just a general term?

I meant gentleman's warrantee as it not a manufacturer's warrantee, so its offered by the company. And obviously with a manufacturer you have a lot more come back. The risk is I could be fobbed off, of course. But I do know the company through personal sources so I do have more comeback and I am probably getting a better price than Joe Public.

I don't think I would buy graded stuff from elsewhere because of this. I never use eBay anymore partly beacuse of this - well not until they, as an entity put some proper control on who advertises and buys on their site. (touchy subject - my last mail-order bride was faulty, and the seller completely misdescribed the goods ).


I have also been offered some other graded appliances - Along the lines of Zanussi and Indesit. Although they are cheaper, these brand don't really entice me much. I would rather buy them new instead.

I was going to buy all new stuff, but until these Mieles popped up, its thrown me; right brand, right price.

I suppose what I should ask is what are Miele like for spares (both availability and prices)??

...Just incase they do go wrong after 12months...I patched up my old appliances enough times, so I'm not scared of fixing stuff myself.

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Old 13 September 2007, 02:07 PM
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I would probably go Miele.

Most electric and mechanical things in white goods can be replaced quite easily as long as the timer doesn't break. If the timer goes U/S new replacements are worth more than the machine (usually) I used to fix them in another life

Personally, our washing machine was 2nd hand and cost £50 6 year ago. Does the job for a family of 3.
Old 13 September 2007, 02:19 PM
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I run a independent electrical shop and can tell ya that Miele are light years better than any other brand, go for them m8
Old 14 September 2007, 07:45 PM
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Well, I'm going for the Miele, providing they are what they say on the tin, its somewhat of a no brainer.

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