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Old 24 October 2007, 09:35 PM
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Why, are we being encouraged to put out biodegradeable waste into domestic compost bins?

Councils offering cheap compost bins for your kitchen scraps?

We are being asked to wash out our M&S aluminiun trays , then pop them in the recycle bins, all nice and clean.

While, all the time, we are removing ( by washing trays etc, and home composting ) the true bio waste from landfill.

If you think this is a bad thing, then click off now. All we will end up with, is landfill that is so toxic, god knows what will treat it. At least with bio waste included in landfill the by-products are useable, and the toxins are diluted...in the form of methane for renewable fuel.

What they should be doing is giving us cheap kitchen sink waste disposal units that put our bio waste into the sewage system...that is turned directly into energy via the burning of methane, along with our turds.


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Old 24 October 2007, 09:53 PM
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food for thought i think
Old 24 October 2007, 10:27 PM
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Theres no middle man creaming off your profit that way Chip

and besides all the really hideous stuff we can dump in the middle of the ocean or something
Old 24 October 2007, 10:30 PM
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If we had flammable turds, we could light them and place them in wrought-iron brackets on the wall for a decidedly gothic effect.
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If you cook with gas, all the energy from burning the gas is available to heat the food.

If you have an electric cooker, though, the gas is burned in the power station, and only about 40% of the energy released is turned into electricity. The rest is lost. So, you need 2.5 times as much gas to be burned to put the same amount of heat into your instant noodles.

Why, then, is there no campaign to rip out electric cookers (and heaters, for that matter), and replace them with gas?
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Well I suppose you could also argue for the opposite. Sure, gas cooking it more efficient that electric. However, electricity does many things in a house that gas cannot. Therefore we have to have an electric supply. Why do we have to have a gas supply?

Imagine the cost, and environmental impact of the national gas mains. Imagine if we just decided to stop using that. Then we could just use electric.

Then we can all bask in the glory of new labour policy of green power. Those windmills will save us all
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I think we should have a national beer infrastructure - underground pipes from a network of breweries, to a tap in every home.

Think of all those miles saved on the beer scooter

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Old 24 October 2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I think we should have a national beer infrastructure - underground pipes from a network of breweries, to a tap in every home.

Think of all those miles saved on the beer scooter

And we could have beer plumbers that come round and charge us forty quid just to tell us that our sparklers need adjusting.
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I might just be stupid, but I was under the impression, that gas was a finite resource,so we would be encouraged not to use that alone, as it will in time apparently run out, whereas there are many ways of producing electicity.
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My point is, though, that right now, much of our electricity is produced by burning gas.

Once we have limitless clean electricity, I'll buy a new hob.
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You are right on that. Hopefully in time, other ways of producing electricity will become more widespread, thus putting less strain on the environment (in the grand scheme of things) and if only it would also be more economical.
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I wonder if there is a way to collect methane gas out of my septic tank.

I can see it now; Having to do a turd to heat up some beans....

Beans which inturn produce more gas, which could be used for boiling some sprouts....which inturn could be used to heat up a Mister Dave's Madras....

Old 25 October 2007, 08:31 AM
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I cycled to my dads house last week and I cycled there again a few days later. Does this mean I have recycled? If so good, because it's the only voluntary recycling I will ever do
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
If we had flammable turds, we could light them and place them in wrought-iron brackets on the wall for a decidedly gothic effect.

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