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Old 25 October 2007, 01:44 PM
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Old 25 October 2007, 02:05 PM
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92% - Still have no idea how the what happens to the sun gears though
Old 25 October 2007, 02:07 PM
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I got 92% too (and a couple of the ones I got wrong were ambiguous IMHO!) - you can click 'review' to go through your answers at the end.

The sun gear rotates clockwise, and the planet gears move clockwise, while each one individually rotates anticlockwise.
Old 25 October 2007, 02:18 PM
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76%

no financial questions though
Old 25 October 2007, 02:23 PM
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82%
Old 25 October 2007, 02:30 PM
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Question 14 should be familiar to anyone who has done a Impreza Cambelt
Old 25 October 2007, 02:38 PM
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74% I demand a resit
Old 25 October 2007, 02:42 PM
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78% or 390 points. Fail
Old 25 October 2007, 02:42 PM
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:lol im CRAP and not worthy of some of you

Well done with some of those scores though. Good way to pass 5 mins of the afternoon though
Old 25 October 2007, 02:46 PM
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90% (450 points)

I hate worm gears (would help if I could zoom the picture)

Planetry gears are a doddle once you've rebuilt an automatic gearbox

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Old 25 October 2007, 03:21 PM
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Old 25 October 2007, 03:25 PM
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88%

I closed my browser before I realised you could review the scores . It would have been nice to see where I went wrong.
Old 25 October 2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I got 92% too (and a couple of the ones I got wrong were ambiguous IMHO!) - you can click 'review' to go through your answers at the end.

The sun gear rotates clockwise, and the planet gears move clockwise, while each one individually rotates anticlockwise.
It doesn't say what is driving what in what direction though. Got the one about air being 'sucked' into an NA engine wrong. It says it is atmospheric pressure pushing it in. While this is technically correct, it only works because the piston dropping has reduced the pressure inside the cylinder. Don't agree with the one about the 250KG on the pulleys either, so I reckon 96 should be a fair score
Old 25 October 2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
82%
Same here

Not bad for someone who earn's a living from corporate advisory type work.

Would have been higher, but for this



Not sure I entirely agree
Old 25 October 2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
It doesn't say what is driving what in what direction though.
Yeah it does - It says the ring gear is stationary, the sun gear is rotating clockwise and it asks what happens to the planets.
Originally Posted by fast bloke
Got the one about air being 'sucked' into an NA engine wrong. It says it is atmospheric pressure pushing it in. While this is technically correct, it only works because the piston dropping has reduced the pressure inside the cylinder.
Well the way it answers the question it asks whether the air goes into the chamber as result of the piston "sucking" the air in - Which of course s wrong, because its not the piston doing the sucking.
Originally Posted by fast bloke
Don't agree with the one about the 250KG on the pulleys either, so I reckon 96 should be a fair score
which one?
Old 25 October 2007, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Yeah it does - It says the ring gear is stationary, the sun gear is rotating clockwise and it asks what happens to the planets.
Doh!! You would think I would have learned to rtfq by now




Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Well the way it answers the question it asks whether the air goes into the chamber as result of the piston "sucking" the air in - Which of course s wrong, because its not the piston doing the sucking.
Suck squeeze bang blow? What sucks?


Originally Posted by PeteBrant
which one?
250kg on each side - one is looped straight over the pulley, the other one is looped round a second bottom pulley and back to the top. It says it will be unstable. Some dark an smelly corner of my mind tells me otherwise.
Old 25 October 2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Suck squeeze bang blow? What sucks?
Normally aspirated engines, apparently. Maybe they like turbos?
Old 25 October 2007, 04:44 PM
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I Agree i got 88% and failled on the induction question and the pulley that is tied off on one end with a hook, how is that ?

It is a test for Ford engineers though which says a lot.
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Suck squeeze bang blow? What sucks?
I * think* the piston "sucking" is an effect, not a cause. In other words - after the "bang" the piston is forced downwards. The air pressure in the chamber at that point is less than the "outside word" therefore the "outside world" rushes to fill the chamber.

Why is the pressure lower? because the explosion has just created a vacuum - Rather than the piston explicity "sucking" air in

If you see what I mean.


Originally Posted by fast bloke

250kg on each side - one is looped straight over the pulley, the other one is looped round a second bottom pulley and back to the top. It says it will be unstable. Some dark an smelly corner of my mind tells me otherwise.

Yeah I must admit, some of the load and pulley stuff is where I lost my marks. I *think* its because you have other pulleys taking some of the load. I actually got that one right, but It was more an educated guess than "i know thats right". I know what you mean, when you look at the diagram, the whole lot is suspended in air effectively , thereofre you wouldn't expect it to make a jot of difference.
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After the 'bang' there's an exhaust stroke... the explosion doesn't create a vacuum, it creates a massive increase in pressure, which then does work pushing the piston down. Then the exhaust valve opens and the exhaust gas is pushed out as the piston rises again.

I think it's just arguing about semantics TBH. If the question were about a turbocharged engine, nobody would suggest for a moment that the answer was anything other then 'the air gets blown in'. Now imagine slowly turning down the boost pressure; at what point does the answer to the question change? A: It doesn't.
Old 25 October 2007, 05:12 PM
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But it doesn't suck air in on the first downstroke

Bang - Piston goes down caused by explosion
exhaust valve opens and piston moves up (driven by explosion from other cylinder)
exhaust valve closes and piston goes down (driven by explosion from other cylinder) - This is the point where air enters. The piston is going down causing the pressure to drop. Saying that this isn't actually sucking is merely semantics. I would be surprised if someone who was hpoing to become a trainee Ford engineer would be that interested in Brownian motion and atmospheric diffusion

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Old 25 October 2007, 05:25 PM
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68% - 340 questions right, the lowest score here yet, I failed!
Old 25 October 2007, 05:32 PM
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94% and I apparantly got the sucking air in wrong
Old 25 October 2007, 05:56 PM
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Old 25 October 2007, 06:08 PM
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It sucks IMO (question 48)

Although bear in mind this is Diesel test and most diesel are Turbo, and all run with nearly zero manifold vacuum or positive pressure for nearly all the time (i.e equivelent to a petrol engine at full throttle).

Still I belive sucks is the better answer for most applications. For instance; when the turbo is barely spinning.
Old 25 October 2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
But it doesn't suck air in on the first downstroke

Bang - Piston goes down caused by explosion
exhaust valve opens and piston moves up (driven by explosion from other cylinder)
exhaust valve closes and piston goes down (driven by explosion from other cylinder) - This is the point where air enters. The piston is going down causing the pressure to drop. Saying that this isn't actually sucking is merely semantics. I would be surprised if someone who was hpoing to become a trainee Ford engineer would be that interested in Brownian motion and atmospheric diffusion
I see single cylinder engines don't exist in your world
Old 25 October 2007, 06:11 PM
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78 %

44 and 48 are highly dubious imo


If id bother to enlarge the worm gear pic id have passed

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Old 25 October 2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
I see single cylinder engines don't exist in your world
I had posted it the first time with cylinders 1,2,3 and 4, then edited it cos I knew some smarta5e (that'd be you then )would mention twins, V8's etc etc. I spent 10 minutes doing the whole cycle for any engine, which was then waaayyyyy too complicated, so I went for this one, which is why Andy managed to give the same answer 15 minutes quicker


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88% - I wasn't sure of the pulley effect on force. I agree with the piston one, mind - saying it is pulled in by suction is woolly scientific thinking/language. The action of the piston produces a negative pressure inside the cylinder, which the atmosphere (being under pressure) rushes in to equalise.
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it's sucked in get over yourselves you lot just coz you got it wrong


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