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Old 25 October 2007, 09:14 PM
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[SW Pharmatex] M1T::Methyl-1-Testosterone

after feedback if anyone has used it as I am due some tommorow.

It is quite harsh thing to take but it is fully legal etc and just needs common sense when using it.

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Old 25 October 2007, 09:19 PM
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Is it something similar to Norateen Heavyweight 2 ?

Not sure I like the sound of "might stress your liver"
Old 25 October 2007, 09:19 PM
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To harsh , just train harder , why do you need this ????
Old 25 October 2007, 09:21 PM
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It looks, evil stuff. It's your body, but I would say if you must, be cautious
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Take this to increase muscle size and look gay but feel less inadequate
But to take this you need to take this to protect your liver.
Oh and because you should only take this for two weeks at a time, then you need to take this to recover from it..
Oh and taking this will help you absorb this better in the first place...

UM !!!
Yea right...
Thanks but no thanks.

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I don't mind evil ...



As long as there's gains


lol
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Originally Posted by alanbell
To harsh , just train harder , why do you need this ????
its harsh if used incorrectly, but then again so is alcohol.

I cant physically train harder, in june I tipped the scales at over 19 stone, at about 6ft 2/ 6 ft3

I now am 16st 2 through lots of hard work, I work long hours so doing more training is not possible, I seem to have reached a plateau now where I cant drop anymore and still have a slight tyre (used to be something like a 245z40 )

I eat small and often and generally eat well, limit alcohol to weekends but even that has been cut down so I am after something to help me go a bit further
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The benefits are marginal at best.

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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Take this to increase muscle size and look gay but feel less inadequate
But to take this you need to take this to protect your liver.
Oh and because you should only take this for two weeks at a time, then you need to take this to recover from it..
Oh and taking this will help you absorb this better in the first place...

UM !!!
Yea right...
Thanks but no thanks.

Andy
its not just to increase muscle size but to also drop body fat, i doubt it will make me look gay, even if it does im married and the missues can vouch for me not being

Already got the 2 week recovery cycle sorted, along with the milk thistle daily etc
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Originally Posted by NAF
I don't mind evil ...



As long as there's gains


lol

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The benefits are marginal at best.

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thats not the same thing, methyl 1 test is the oral equivalent of the injectable tren
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
I eat small and often and generally eat well, limit alcohol to weekends but even that has been cut down so I am after something to help me go a bit further
Take a trip to India for a week. Eat tandoori chicken at every meal time and I guarantee that your tyre will be gone within 5 days. This non-chemical method may have some minor side effects, so tell your relatives not to blame me if you die in agony trying it...
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
its harsh if used incorrectly, but then again so is alcohol.

I cant physically train harder, in june I tipped the scales at over 19 stone, at about 6ft 2/ 6 ft3

I now am 16st 2 through lots of hard work, I work long hours so doing more training is not possible, I seem to have reached a plateau now where I cant drop anymore and still have a slight tyre (used to be something like a 245z40 )

I eat small and often and generally eat well, limit alcohol to weekends but even that has been cut down so I am after something to help me go a bit further
I can understand how you feel, I must admit to being a big fan of body builders
But this stuff seems extreme, the liver comment would worry me, says she drinking a glass of wine
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Take a trip to India for a week. Eat tandoori chicken at every meal time and I guarantee that your tyre will be gone within 5 days. This non-chemical method may have some minor side effects, so tell your relatives not to blame me if you die in agony trying it...
i love indian food, however I have no holidays left until jan
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consume less calories than you burn and as if by magic your fat will disappear.
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I can understand how you feel, I must admit to being a big fan of body builders
But this stuff seems extreme, the liver comment would worry me, says she drinking a glass of wine
its not my intention to being a body builder, its for having a lean muscular physique and less body fat, but still sort of stocky (that doesnt make sense I know)

The liver stuff is a warning in that the formuila of the methyl 1 basically isnt broken down by the liver so it has to work harder to do so, like alcohol
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Originally Posted by jjones
consume less calories than your burn and as if by magic your fat will disappear.
doesnt always work, I have been consuiming about 1500 on average per day sometimes less sometimes slightly more, your body adjusts after a period of time and the metabolic rate slows down to match, so you can actually put weight back on. To add to that it then means your body uses your muscles instead of the fat for energy
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My brother is into body building in a big way. He is massive. But he is a Farrier by trade so I guess that helps him. He says he has not used anything, but I am inclined to not believe him based on his size.
I think I know what you mean about lean but stocky
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The introduction of external testosterone in to the body isn't going to bode well for the production of your own testosterone. Your body's own testosterone production will slow down considerably. Steroids are are bad news period, the euphoria and results which they yield cause users to lose all objectivity. They are an easy route granted but one which carries a lot of risks. The bottom line is if you aren't genetically capable of having a certain bodyshape then it's going to be bloody hard. Training and diet is the way coupled with sensible supplementation. If you must take steroids then make sure you do your homework prior.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Training and diet is the way coupled with sensible supplementation. If you must take steroids then make sure you do your homework prior.
homework done

I dropped 3 stone in 4 months via training and diet this was mainly fat but probably some muscle as well, but now have reached a plateau, this is just to get me to lose more body fat and maybe a few inches on my waist. I may actually put weight on, but this will be muscle
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The introduction of external testosterone in to the body isn't going to bode well for the production of your own testosterone. Your body's own testosterone production will slow down considerably. Steroids are are bad news period, the euphoria and results which they yield cause users to lose all objectivity. They are an easy route granted but one which carries a lot of risks. The bottom line is if you aren't genetically capable of having a certain bodyshape then it's going to be bloody hard. Training and diet is the way coupled with sensible supplementation. If you must take steroids then make sure you do your homework prior.
What he said
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
They are an easy route granted but one which carries a lot of risks.
wouldnt say its an easy route as you still have to do the work to get the benefits, bit it is a short term plan, probably do 2 cycles and then stop it and just continue training as normal.
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
homework done

I dropped 3 stone in 4 months via training and diet this was mainly fat but probably some muscle as well, but now have reached a plateau, this is just to get me to lose more body fat and maybe a few inches on my waist. I may actually put weight on, but this will be muscle
The Atkins diet is quite effective in this matter. Eliminate carbs completely. You will lose fat but will feel crap.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
The Atkins diet is quite effective in this matter. Eliminate carbs completely. You will lose fat but will feel crap.
tried similar, reduced carbs totally and got my body into ketosis, nice having no energy to train and breath that can kill pidgeons from 200 yards!

Again though things like the atkins tend not to give you long term gains, good in the short run but you cant do it for ever and as soon as you look at a grain of rice you put on the pounds
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you hit the nail on the head before Einstein about genetics, my family is a big, the exception was my mum but I think I got my dads genetics. I am going to be trying this to "cheat" those genetics, and who knows it may help my kids in the future (none yet)
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
wouldnt say its an easy route as you still have to do the work to get the benefits, bit it is a short term plan, probably do 2 cycles and then stop it and just continue training as normal.
Once you have completed the cycle you may have to kick start your own testosterone production. I assume you have looked into this. You may need a course of HCG.
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You've done really well on the weight loss, good going. Just be careful, that's all I am saying. I know how big my brother is, his neck is huge. He looks great now, but what of the future
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Once you have completed the cycle you may have to kick start your own testosterone production. I assume you have looked into this. You may need a course of HCG.
yep thats all sorted, clomid is the choice on that one if I find thats not effective then I will go for nolvadex xt on the 2nd cycle
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Originally Posted by 84of300
You've done really well on the weight loss, good going. Just be careful, that's all I am saying. I know how big my brother is, his neck is huge. He looks great now, but what of the future
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The populus falls into three general body types ectomorph (lean and thin), endomorph (large but fat) and mesomorph (large and muscular). Very few people are genetically predisposed to falling into one category.We are generally a combination with a slight favouring for one.


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