Is Bush making it worse?
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Is Bush making it worse?
Iran that is.
OK so it seems generally accepted that to let Iran develop nuclear weapons is not on the cards.
But I don't see how Bush's heavy handed approach is going to help. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad doesn't seem the type to back down and the US stance will just make him more determined and unite the (very divided) Iranian people behind him?
Or is this a too simplistic view? I am slightly swayed by the fact that my old boss used to travel to Iran quite often and really enjoyed his trips and liked the business middle class that he was dealing with. But, of course, he wasn't dealing with the screwballs that run the country.
What do you reckon? dl
OK so it seems generally accepted that to let Iran develop nuclear weapons is not on the cards.
But I don't see how Bush's heavy handed approach is going to help. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad doesn't seem the type to back down and the US stance will just make him more determined and unite the (very divided) Iranian people behind him?
Or is this a too simplistic view? I am slightly swayed by the fact that my old boss used to travel to Iran quite often and really enjoyed his trips and liked the business middle class that he was dealing with. But, of course, he wasn't dealing with the screwballs that run the country.
What do you reckon? dl
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The Israelis will go in and hit them - after all, Iran has threatened to 'wipe Israel from the face of the earth'!!
Something WILL have to be done, as having a world where Iran has the future worlds Oil AND the Bomb is unthinkable!
Something WILL have to be done, as having a world where Iran has the future worlds Oil AND the Bomb is unthinkable!
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I think Bush is doing his Team America World Police bit again, which isn't too much of a shock. Ok, so Iran having nuclear weapons isn't really a good idea, and many countries agree about this, however, going in all gung-ho, thinking that what you want is right and you're backed by the whole world isn't a good thing.
I can see it getting very nasty indeed, and I really hope we (the UK we, and the Canadian we, seeing as I'm over here ) decide to tell Bush we don't want to be involved in whatever invasion/attack he wants to initiate against Iran.
I don't want things to escalate, I'm not that far from DC, which would be a nice target for a nuke, but part of me would like to see something happen to the US to make them realise they need to keep their bloody nose out of others business sometimes. They are not the best country in the world and they are not the world police and they need to be shown/told this in no uncertain terms.
Ahmadinejad is a little odd to say the least, and as said, I doubt he'll back down if Bush tries anything on, and from there on in, < insert deity here > help us all. Perhaps Bush is trying to deflect people away from the joke that is Iraq/Afghanistan? and Iran allows him to do this, the focus goes elsewhere.
If you thought the yanks were living in fear now, can you imagine what it'd be like if Iran does act against them?
I can see it getting very nasty indeed, and I really hope we (the UK we, and the Canadian we, seeing as I'm over here ) decide to tell Bush we don't want to be involved in whatever invasion/attack he wants to initiate against Iran.
I don't want things to escalate, I'm not that far from DC, which would be a nice target for a nuke, but part of me would like to see something happen to the US to make them realise they need to keep their bloody nose out of others business sometimes. They are not the best country in the world and they are not the world police and they need to be shown/told this in no uncertain terms.
Ahmadinejad is a little odd to say the least, and as said, I doubt he'll back down if Bush tries anything on, and from there on in, < insert deity here > help us all. Perhaps Bush is trying to deflect people away from the joke that is Iraq/Afghanistan? and Iran allows him to do this, the focus goes elsewhere.
If you thought the yanks were living in fear now, can you imagine what it'd be like if Iran does act against them?
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Slightly off topic but did anyone catch George Galloway's comment on Question Time last night when they were talking about Blair being the new Middle East peace envoy? "It's like putting the late Harold Shipman in charge of "Help the Aged" "
I rather enjoyed that analogy
I rather enjoyed that analogy
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To my mind it's more likely to a be another 'Beirut Marine Barracks', but Markus does have a point f1 fan, however unsavoury it may be
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That point being that he hopes the terrorists do something to justify his extremely non educated right wing point of view, so that he can justify said point of view?
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OK I agree, hope is definitely too strong a term, but if the Americans carry on in their current manner, another incident is, I think, inevitable
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sorry lads in ahmadinejads defense, he didnt say wipe israel oot the map, he said it in farsi and the media still twist his words
he said the regime will be wiped oot the map as in the current zionist regime just like the soviet union
check it up and also have a look here
bush and israel r so eager tae attack iran these evil warmongers bush, israel and the zionist ****'s
i think they wanna trigger world war 3, so i say lets start saying oor last goodbyes tae each other and oor loved ones
YouTube - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad über Deutschland - www.bfed.info/bfed/
he said the regime will be wiped oot the map as in the current zionist regime just like the soviet union
check it up and also have a look here
bush and israel r so eager tae attack iran these evil warmongers bush, israel and the zionist ****'s
i think they wanna trigger world war 3, so i say lets start saying oor last goodbyes tae each other and oor loved ones
YouTube - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad über Deutschland - www.bfed.info/bfed/
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sorry lads in ahmadinejads defense, he didnt say wipe israel oot the map, he said it in farsi and the media still twist his words
he said the regime will be wiped oot the map as in the current zionist regime just like the soviet union
check it up and also have a look here
bush and israel r so eager tae attack iran these evil warmongers bush, israel and the zionist ****'s
i think they wanna trigger world war 3, so i say lets start saying oor last goodbyes tae each other and oor loved ones
YouTube - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad über Deutschland - www.bfed.info/bfed/
he said the regime will be wiped oot the map as in the current zionist regime just like the soviet union
check it up and also have a look here
bush and israel r so eager tae attack iran these evil warmongers bush, israel and the zionist ****'s
i think they wanna trigger world war 3, so i say lets start saying oor last goodbyes tae each other and oor loved ones
YouTube - Mahmoud Ahmadinejad über Deutschland - www.bfed.info/bfed/
Answers in English please or we may need to let Bush know where Scotland is and lend him a translator dl
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Bros b under no illusion, there will b another World War, it will b total carnage bros i swear,the will b much blood shed bros, i cry whit is happening in oor present world, it frightens me tae death bros. Say yoo prayers every night bros tae keep yoos families safe from thae evil in thae world
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
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Bros b under no illusion, there will b another World War, it will b total carnage bros i swear,the will b much blood shed bros, i cry whit is happening in oor present world, it frightens me tae death bros. Say yoo prayers every night bros tae keep yoos families safe from thae evil in thae world
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
The other one is just a tedious parody IMHO
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Bros b under no illusion, there will b another World War, it will b total carnage bros i swear,the will b much blood shed bros, i cry whit is happening in oor present world, it frightens me tae death bros. Say yoo prayers every night bros tae keep yoos families safe from thae evil in thae world
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
Ameen tae thae n peace oot bros.
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Hello Moses, May I ask if you feel be Iran should be allowed to develop a nuclear program or, if not, how the West should react to what's going on? You are right about the Iran/Israel words although I wouldn't fancy emigrating to Israel right now
Answers in English please or we may need to let Bush know where Scotland is and lend him a translator dl
Answers in English please or we may need to let Bush know where Scotland is and lend him a translator dl
hi david hows u buddy , long time no see lol.
im glad u agree and its sad aint it, everyone knows he didnt say wipe israel aff the map and they still continue this evil propaganda and lies and people aint holding them responsible for it, the media r evil most of them anyways when stirring garbage like this, did u see his columbia and UN speech, very good except for the homo;s part but i believe he meant iran didnt have homo;s as americans dae, not that they dont have any at all lol.
mate every country has a right tae nuclear power and programme, they r members of the nuclear profileration treaty and in that they r allowed tae have a nuclear programme when israel, pakistan and india aint and r nuclear powers and who is israel and the usa and britain tae tell iran not tae have a nuclear programme and the IAEA agreed that iran aint making nuclear weapons etc etc
if america and others can have it, why not iran and regarding nuclear weapons, im against those evil weapons, totally, every country that has it should be disarmed and i mean all of them, this is an evil weapon that is made tae wipe oot nations and make their kids suffer afterwards for yrs and yrs just like hiroshima and nagasaki
and the only people who r oot of control r the usa and israel , israel has nuclear weapons illegally, isnt it unfair that iran gets threatened and israel dont, its all aboot israeli superiority over the middle east and as long as the usa and its allies have these evil weaponry, they can dictate and imperialise all other countries
so it seems it maybe a good idea of iran and venezeula and other countries have nuclear weapons tae deter the usa;s evil ambitions, but im totally against them mate, their only their tae destroy human beings
iran has been treated unfairly i believe, the neocons and zionists want tae commit another holocaust on iran just like in iraq
if that happens their shall be a world war 3 and its not good for the lil ones and kids and innocents
cheers
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up to the word 'nagasaki' I was in total agreement with you Moses. Then you went and started saying things that you have been manipulated into saying because of the stuff you read, which as twisted as the western media.
ps- hope you and your family are well bro. salaam
ps- hope you and your family are well bro. salaam
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Good link Mosie - we need this perspective.
Maybe G Michael will write a song that involves a person not being an American Poodle? Tough call for those of us that want to sit on the fence; half hawk, half poodle, have travelled...
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Maybe G Michael will write a song that involves a person not being an American Poodle? Tough call for those of us that want to sit on the fence; half hawk, half poodle, have travelled...
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lol salamun alaikum my dear beloved brother ted , shalom alaykum lol, missed u bros, aint seen u for ages and ages, hope all is well and the family bros
bros come on, u know i hate zionists and israeli regime, all this war and evil is for the zionist lobby and the neocons who r zionist and aipac and the cult created by zionist called the born again christians
bros inshallah, God willing when israel is palestine once again and united wae the rest of the muslim world, inshallah bros the cousins of oors the jews will be living among us in justice, freedom and luv, the zionists can go back tae where they came fae, u know bros my war aint against the jew, it will be evil of me if it woz, i know the difference between a zionist and a true jew.
bros i cant wait till u r my brother in islam, its yer birthright lol
we muslims need oor cousins the jews, mashallah, God has given u all a clever brain and idea;'s these hooka smoking arabs need their cousins the jews, inshallah when jews become muslims and unite wae arabs, all the land of the muslims will also be the land of the jews who became muslims, just like the old times
lol bros i dae mean the above but i said it as a joke as well tae make u laff
i hope all is well and Allah bless u and yer family ameen , u r a good man indeed , may God protect u and yer family fae evil ameen
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hows u my welsh bruvva
mair than welcome bud, mate theirs plenty mair in youtube, ahmadinejad is entertaining lol , its a pity all his words r twisted in the media lol, check oot his columbia university speech as wellm, quite good
u have tae remember of course ahmadinejad sympathises wae the germans, iranians and germans r cousins their aryans arent they so iran always had that link wae germany
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Moses, I was hoping you had been absent due to being on an English course.... looks like I was wrong
At the end of the day, who would you rather have holding the A-bomb....Israel or Iran???
At the end of the day, who would you rather have holding the A-bomb....Israel or Iran???
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