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Old 02 November 2007, 09:47 AM
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I'm not a doctor and I'm not fat.These latest findings just really annoy me.

Like everyone else I have had friends and family,close and not close affected by cancer either in the past or currently fighting it.

NEVER have I known anyone in the fat or overweight category (yes I am talking pre illness).In fact many of them didn't even drink or smoke either.

Still think we know stuff all about cancer.
Old 02 November 2007, 09:52 AM
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It's just another way for the Government to make obesity as "anti-social" as smoking. Look at all those fat people - it's them getting cancer which means I have to pay more tax, yadda yadda yadda!
Old 02 November 2007, 09:53 AM
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Ok

So maybe it's just scare tactics to get the lard ***** to lose some weight...

Whatever the reasoning behind it, if it helps slim down our slobbish society, then all good

PS Pavorotti was a real Bean Pole
Old 02 November 2007, 09:54 AM
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Basically if you're alive you have a risk of catching / developing something and dying. Personally I'd rather live a few years less and enjoy it than sit in a cave eating lettuce leaves till I'm 110.
Old 02 November 2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Ok

So maybe it's just scare tactics to get the lard ***** to lose some weight...

Whatever the reasoning behind it, if it helps slim down our slobbish society, then all good

PS Pavorotti was a real Bean Pole
And thin people have never contracted cancer?
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Could scarce beleive the nannying blaggotry they came out with on the 9pm ? bbc news couple nights back concerning this....

anybody whos slightly less than perfect is going to cost Mr brown.s party money at the health desk is how i read it
Old 02 November 2007, 09:57 AM
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The BBCs representation of this news article was woeful the other day.
"Research has shown that red meat gives you cancer" "Research has shown that alcohol gives you cancer", "Being fat gives you cancer" etc...
Then some woman on with bowel cancer who THINKS that because she ate a lot of red meat once that's what gave her the cancer - Great science...
So it seems the only way to guarantee not getting cancer is not to be born at all. Because, breathing, eating or drinking may lead to a cell mutation of the worst order...

Apparantly playing on motorways increases your chances of being run over and going to a football match increases your chances of seeing a football match...

Eeeee by gum

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Originally Posted by OllyK
Basically if you're alive you have a risk of catching / developing something and dying. Personally I'd rather live a few years less and enjoy it than sit in a cave eating lettuce leaves till I'm 110.

Exactly. dl
Old 02 November 2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Ok

So maybe it's just scare tactics to get the lard ***** to lose some weight...

Whatever the reasoning behind it, if it helps slim down our slobbish society, then all good

PS Pavorotti was a real Bean Pole
Just out of interest, but what the **** does it matter to you if someone is fat?
Old 02 November 2007, 10:04 AM
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If red meat and alcohol give you cancer then i'm not long for this world!!
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I think what they were trying to say is that it is advisable to lead a healthy lifestyle if you want to minimize the risks of developing a fatal illness. Common sense really.

What really annoys me though is those people who say 'i'd rather live less and enjoy myself', well if you have ever actually seen cancer in somebody and watch it literally destroy them infront of you, you'd know that cancer is not something to take lightly. It is one of the worst ways to go. Fit people have more chance of fighting back, fact.
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and we all need to be told this because somehow were all more stupid than we were a few years ago
Old 02 November 2007, 10:27 AM
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Just out of interest, but what the **** does it matter to you if someone is fat?
They tend to smell in a vast majority of cases, are lazy and blame everything else other than their own laziness for being overweight, other than that, it doesn't matter a bit to me....

Touch a nerve chubby ?

Infract away salad dodgers (or is it your thyroid again ?)
Old 02 November 2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
I'm not a doctor and I'm not fat.These latest findings just really annoy me.

Like everyone else I have had friends and family,close and not close affected by cancer either in the past or currently fighting it.

NEVER have I known anyone in the fat or overweight category (yes I am talking pre illness).In fact many of them didn't even drink or smoke either.

Still think we know stuff all about cancer.
I am a doctor, and I am fat, and they annoy me as well...
Old 02 November 2007, 10:49 AM
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Surely its all griss tae the mill ...




how the hell can si-pie get done for that
Old 02 November 2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
I think what they were trying to say is that it is advisable to lead a healthy lifestyle if you want to minimize the risks of developing a fatal illness. Common sense really.

What really annoys me though is those people who say 'i'd rather live less and enjoy myself', well if you have ever actually seen cancer in somebody and watch it literally destroy them infront of you, you'd know that cancer is not something to take lightly. It is one of the worst ways to go. Fit people have more chance of fighting back, fact.

OK but........

There are some pretty miserable ways of dieing other than by cancer. I really wouldn't want to suffer from Alzeimers for several years or be disabled by a stroke or just live a lonely life out in a home. And I have seen the comparisons.

So I'll stay with the steak and claret for the time being dl
Old 02 November 2007, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
They tend to smell in a vast majority of cases, are lazy and blame everything else other than their own laziness for being overweight, other than that, it doesn't matter a bit to me....

Touch a nerve chubby ?

Infract away salad dodgers (or is it your thyroid again ?)
Not at all, I'm not overweight, I just don't have an irrational dislike of someone that is.

But then I'm not a cvnt
Old 02 November 2007, 01:18 PM
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What exactly are we meant to eat, from what I can see its basically, fruit, nuts and water as long as it is organic, free of sodium and any kind of preservatives.

They moan about people living longer and costing in pensions, might as well just get on with it, be sensible, eat some crap, drink some beer with reasonable bounds and eventually cark it, its like trying to keep your car like when it was new, sods law something will happen to it anyway !

Life expectancy keeps on rising, certainly for the middle classes, ffs do we really want Daily Mail Readers living until they are over a 100 !
Old 02 November 2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Basically if you're alive you have a risk of catching / developing something and dying. Personally I'd rather live a few years less and enjoy it than sit in a cave eating lettuce leaves till I'm 110.
Trouble is, if you get to a good age, you will still want to live just as much as you do now, and if you do get something nasty, you will regret all the ciggies and binges that you had in the past!

Les
Old 02 November 2007, 01:40 PM
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It's all within reason isn't it Les. Balance is the key. You have to enjoy things in life but not to the extent that you'll do yourself harm.
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Flash wants us to live a thoroughly miserable existence living on bread water and the odd grass cutting,stay in as much as possible whilst being taxed to buggery for everything possible and then jump off something tall aged 63.5 so as not to impinge on a creaking health service ...

This and only this will balance the books
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But then I'm not a cvnt
Surely calling somebody that merits an infraction more than calling someone a salad dodger

Not at all, I'm not overweight, I just don't have an irrational dislike of someone that is.
Nothing irrational about it at all ....and nowhere did I say that I dislike fat people.

I do however have little respect for fat people. As i previously mentioned, what I do feel is that most grossly overweight people tend to be lazy, seem to carry around a definitive 'fat smell', and tend to blame their weight issues on everything other than how it's actually caused

ie. consuming more calories than they are expending

I have very little sympathy for those who don't look after their bodies and let themselves slide into one of the sorry sights that we see around Britain's streets today.

They should have a bit of pride and do something about it..... IMHO (I am still allowed to have an opinion even if you don't agree ???)

To the few exceptions who genuinely have medical conditions that cause their obesity, then that's totally different........

I'm simply talking about those that stuff their faces full of rubbish and don't exercise.
Old 02 November 2007, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Surely calling somebody that merits an infraction more than calling someone a salad dodger

Agreed.



Ask any nurse what he/she thinks about having to move a bloater in their hospital bed. My wife was 4 months pregnant and some porker was telling her to be careful as she head a back back
Old 02 November 2007, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
It's all within reason isn't it Les. Balance is the key. You have to enjoy things in life but not to the extent that you'll do yourself harm.
Can't say fairer than that!

Les
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Originally Posted by SiPie
Nothing irrational about it at all ....and nowhere did I say that I dislike fat people.

I do however have little respect for fat people. As i previously mentioned, what I do feel is that most grossly overweight people tend to be lazy, seem to carry around a definitive 'fat smell', and tend to blame their weight issues on everything other than how it's actually caused

ie. consuming more calories than they are expending

I have very little sympathy for those who don't look after their bodies and let themselves slide into one of the sorry sights that we see around Britain's streets today.

They should have a bit of pride and do something about it..... IMHO (I am still allowed to have an opinion even if you don't agree ???)

To the few exceptions who genuinely have medical conditions that cause their obesity, then that's totally different........

I'm simply talking about those that stuff their faces full of rubbish and don't exercise.
Nice

I'm overweight. I'm also fairly fit as well as I do plenty, don't drink much and have a 7 month old lad to look after all the time. I'm not lazy, I work very hard around the home and in my work life, I smell normal and I don't make excuses - I'm overweight cos I like my food, although latterly I've put more weight on as I gave up smoking when my lad was born.

I can do more exercise to lose some weight now if I CHOOSE (and once I'm not so knackered from 4 hours sleep each night), and I can keep a good balance. I'm 6 ft and weigh about 18.5 stone. I look pretty good, I'm fit and healthy and haven't been to the docs for over 7 years with anything more than blocked sinuses (which was down to smoking, which I don't do now).

I am technically overweight according to the sparrow legged lady boys that set the figures at the NHS/Government etc

I would imagine you are one of those gym freaks though that lives for the gym and wears those god awful gym pants, or just a short **** that has a problem with people bigger than him?

So, what exactly is your problem with me being overweight cos I like eating? It doesn't cause me illness and cost the NHS anything, I spend more on food so put more into the economy each week, I don't have an unhealthy obsession with gyms, and what I do in no way affects your life at all, yet you have no respect for me?
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No offence DW but 6ft and 18'5 stone is pretty big! Just say you play rugby
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Originally Posted by SiPie
They tend to smell in a vast majority of cases, are lazy and blame everything else other than their own laziness for being overweight, other than that, it doesn't matter a bit to me....

Touch a nerve chubby ?

Infract away salad dodgers (or is it your thyroid again ?)
For someone who had (has) mental health problems you sure like stereotyping. I'm sure you know the stereotypes that are given those with mental ill health.

i.e.

Not nice, is it?
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or sumo wrestling
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yet you have no respect for me?
It's hard to respect someone when I assume they have little respect for the only body they'll ever get.

You are carrying a bit much weight (as you stated yourself) and are endangering your health, that's all. Seems a strange choice to make, considering that in your case you do appear to have a choice....but hey if you are happy with it, then whatever.

I would imagine you are one of those gym freaks though that lives for the gym and wears those god awful gym pants, or just a short **** that has a problem with people bigger than him?
Oh how wrong, haven't been to a gym in years, get all the exercise i need cycling to and from work, mountain biking, walking and kung fu.

For someone who had (has) mental health problems you sure like stereotyping. I'm sure you know the stereotypes that are given those with mental ill health.

i.e.

Not nice, is it?
Classic

Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I know my mind better than most know theirs ... and it's now working as it should thanks.

Don't have a sore point about my 'issues' ... unlike some on here
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You wait.. Smoking ban, massive crack down on fat/salt intakes and next there will be a drinking ban..


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