Snazy

Anyone here tried it?

Just wondered if anyone from here had ever heard of it, or been on it.

LighterLife

Chris L

I know one friend who has done it. It is very extreme though. It is nornally for people with a lot of weight to lose (my friend has lost more than 10 stone - his calorie intake was around 500 a day which is very low). Certainly not for someone who wants to lose the odd stone or 2.

Snazy

Aaah you know someone, cool

Yeah im just starting on it now, and have to say it IS extreme, but like yourself, from seeing people I know, I know it has a great impact.
Only been on it a few days, and meeting some of the seasoned guys on it, its crazy to see how much, how soon CAN be lost, without becoming ill.

Im blogging my days on it, so if anyone is bored...
Snazy's Space

Chris L

Well the best of luck! Beaware of the downsides and use the support groups and medical support. The diet can become addictive and my friend actually struggled to stop dieting once he had lost the weight (I think they take you well under your target weight because you will put some back on as soon as you start eating again).

I know for a long time that his diet was basically liquid. In effective, you are retraining your body to eat and to do that you have to stop eating! Not a diet for the faint hearted that's for sure!

Snazy

Yup thats right, its total absenance from food for a minimum of 8 weeks. Then depending on progress, slow re-introduction of foods to check for trigger foods etc.

Feels strange on the body I have to say, but 3 days in and I am still functioning so far. Early days yet eh.

Im determined to stay on this, and overcome the grief I have suffered from bad diet and subsequent ill health. At £66 a week, im prob saving money too lol.

They recommend a high water intake, and so far im setting the benchmark at 7 litres a day. Which means very regular toilet breaks l

They recommend half a stone under the target weight to allow for the trigger testing weeks. But not sure yet what my actual goal is. At the end of the day its for me to decide. But at this stage its a great way to re introduce food to the body and start a fresh.

A friend recommended a colonic at some point, but hmmmm lol

Varboy

I know someone who did and lost a lot of weight, they looked like a completely different person.

The problem is that it is no different from any other diet, as they all work by the same principle ie you expend more energy than you consume.

It's easier said than done, I know from experience, but invest in some gym time and stop poisoning yourself with food that's bad for you.

You'll get equally good results and save ££

dpb

Just cut back on the doritos Snazy - youll be fine

The Chief

I personally think these diets are feckin dangerous in the long term.
Even though i push weights at the gym 3 times a week i was told to lose a bit of weight by the doctor due to the fact that my snoring could wake King Kong and could affect my long term health.

This idiot gave me a diet sheet of 600 calories a day which i threw straight in the bin, i'm not a pig but i have shall we say a healthy appetite, but i am guilty of eating the wrong foods - ok i'm a bit orf a pig

Anyway my sister prepared a diet for me - she's been reading and trying different diets for years and is now a trim 8 stone and her bloke who was 18.5 stone is a trim 12.5 stone - he has kept this weight off for over a year now.

I have been on this special 'sister prepared' diet for 3 weeks now and i have dropped a stone in weight, i feel full, and best of all i feel and i'm not making this up, on top of the world.
I've not felt this good for years

Everyone at work has commented.

Ok there are a few things i miss - Pies - choccy bars, loads of toast but it aint that bad. And when you reach your required weight you can still introduce some certain crappy foods.

If anyone wants any info i'll kindly PM them, i mean ffs if i can do it then anyone can

Snazy

lol if only it were that simple.
Food has definatly been the cause, but its a bit more complex.

Used to be a proper gym rat, love cycling, snowboarding etc.
Car accident in 2003 saw me laid up for about 4 months. In that time, the weight piled on and by blood pressure shot up to a critical level.

About a year after all that, and under the hospital for blood pressure, I started trying to get myself back together.
Then I managed to get Gout.

About 18 months ago, still trying to get back on the right foot, losing weight nicely, I applied for the Met. Started running loads, was getting 5-10km's a day, and doing well. Then.... stomach ulcers.

So now, after a depressing time, here I am, trying to get on the straight and narrow. Its easy to say, eat less and exercise, but not always quite that easy I speak from experience.

I have been further foiled from training by tennis elbow and now a damaged rotator cuff (on the other arm)

So as you can see, a wreck like me needs a fresh start.

Snazy

Fair play mate, this is not a long term diet though, just a fresh start so to speak. The body can survive on the limited intake for quite a while, and trust me I have some to burn off. Hit the link for my blog and you will see what I mean

I actually dont endulge that much in crap foods these days, but lost hope after failing my SC for the Met, put some weight back on. But noticed I reached a plateau when I was running, and thats a massive frsutration for me.

The Chief

Mate i was the same,

Ive always been big but a few years ago i used to hammer the gym (3 times a week) and did Tae-Kwondo (twice a week) and was a trim 16 stone and i looked bloody good at that weight if i dont mind myself saying

anyway the next thing dislocated knee - so taekwondo was over and gym ended up being a hit and miss affair, weight piled on.

couple of years ago i had ulcers meself and gallstones - i lost a **** load, but ended up in teh operating theatre, came out ate like a pig and piled the weight back on and more.

Been back at the gym properly for 8 weeks now, regained most of my lost strength, but now was todl to drop some weight as i suffer from Sleep Apnoea, and that can be dangerous

Snazy

Aaaah a wreck like me, ello mate lol
All happens in one go dont it.

Just so no one panics (not that anyone cares lol) but the idea is to spend 16-20 weeks on this, inc the management plan. Get to a good start weight, reintroduce foods, and get back to the gym, after the op for my arm. Im at physio at the mo for my shoulder, he is looking at my elbow too.

Its not a new lifestyle or anything, and im very keen to get the energy levels back up to a good level so I can train hard again, and live life to the max.

Snazy

Just popped in to swap a couple of food packs over, and drop some cash off, and a quick weigh in.

Started on Tuesday, this is day 3..... 5lb gone

jaytc2003

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same here I have taken to my own weight loss program since about june this year, through exercise and changing eating habits slightly I have now dropped over 3 stone. To start with I was doing cardio, and like you I reached a plateau where the weight just stayed at the same level. I then did a bit of browsing, and came across interval training whilst running. Basically I would run at say 6mph for 2 mins, then run at 8mph for 1 min (unfortunately thats as fast as my running machine goes ) then back to 6 for 2 and do that about 5 times in the same seshion, and once the 5 reps are complete just do a cool down run at a lower speed for about 10 mins. What this does is shocks your body into working harder.

Also when exercising if like me you are trying to lose fat dont go max out, find out what your max heart rate is for your age height weight etc and then only work at about 70ish % of max heart rate, this is the fat burning zone, go much higher and you are using your muscle stores for energy

Will have a look at your blog when I get home as its banned from work.

I do still eat bad foods every now and again, takeways/pizza etc but I know If I put the weight on I can literally drop a few pounds in a day upto my newish weight.

Good luck

Snazy

Cheers for the input Jay
Interval training was something I was starting to dabble with just before I had to stop running due to health again lol.

There are some blogs about my running, with screen shots of my Nike+ readout (which I adore) Over time you can see the improvement, its actually quite good for someone who has actually never been able to run in 34 years.
So once I have dropped a few more pounds and can actually get the energy up, I can start running again, gently and head back towards fitness.

I only ever used to run flat out for a couple of mins per entire run, and kept my heart to about 150-160. As my fitness increaed, the heart rate recovering on a cool down jog was fantastic, and really came down fast.

Just updated the blog. Happy reading later, might be a bit boring, but I like it lol.

Snazy's Space

jaytc2003

iTrader: (1)

I actually used fat burners at the start (legal) www.cnpprofessional.com used the sida cordifola, may not be of use to you whilst on your eating plan, but they gave me engine and made my mouth dry so I had to drink more water if you know what I mean

Snazy

13lb gone this week.

Weekend has been a bit of a nightmare, broken routine and being round SO much nice food !!! Mmmmmmmmmm

jaytc2003

iTrader: (1)

i quite often break the rules, however I know now that I am exercising and generally eating sensibly during the week that I know I can get away with it. dont worry about that, 13lbs in a week is a great achievement.

Keep up the good work

Snazy

Cheers Jay, official weigh in is tomorrow, so hoping its up to a stone by then
In Subway's in town last night was a killer, just a couple of bites would have been soooooooooooooooooo nice !

D6ale

iTrader: (1)

I was on lipotrim earlier this year and dropped 2.5 stone in about 3 months. Then broke off it due to holiday etc and starting up again tomorrow on the run to xmas. Great diet (same as yours i think) i just find it difficult not to socialise really but otherwise i can deal with the extreeme nature of it and ive had no side affects

Stephb1986

Well done snazzy ive done lighter life i lost 4 stone in 5 weeks

its pure hard work and lasted about about 6 weeks before i lapsed but i did still lose weight i was just careful about what i had naughty i know. its been a few months since ive come off it and only put a stone back on which isnt bad

Good luck let us know how you get on

Stephb xx


p.s did you get a recipie sheet to try out different things with your soup and shakes if not i have one that i can email to you

Snazy

Cheers mate, nice to hear from someone else who has been on it too. Its certainly not easy, but I guess not that hard either if you know what your goal is. Your loss was certainly a good one. How have you done with food since? Better intake?

My plan is to be on long enough to change my mentality towards food, and I have to say, thats happening already in a big way.

No recipe sheet yet, John mentioned this also, not sure if we get this later on or not at all, but... pssst.... me @csoc.co.uk I promise not to sin yet. We are getting offered the bars tomorrow, so not sure yet if I want any.

Did you just give the plan up entirely?

D6ale.... not a bad loss there either mate, well done. I am going through Xmas on this plan, so that should be challenging in itself. As the blog says about this weekend, its been a challenge with the socialising, but I have held strong, and my friends have been supportive and not selfish at all about it

Will be sure to keep this thread alive with updates, and also the blog, so anyone contemplating it.... its worth it, and watch the blog

Simon 69

Carl, Ive never seen a trim 16 stones! Im quite big: 6' 3" and approaching 16 stones, but Im far from trim!!!

Simon

Snazy

Depends on your definition of "trim" really.
I was 15 stone 5' 10" and whilst not cut, I had no flabby bits.
32" waist and 19" neck. Long gone are those days lol

The Chief

I went for a private checkup when i was 30 and the doctor did all the usual stuff, heart, blood - and oh yes finger up the Gary as well.

I was stood there in my boxers and she weighed me and i was 16.5 stone, when i got my report and notes back two weeks later, it stated that i was overweight but had an extremely muscular frame and although i could do with losing a bit i was well within healthy limits.

Dont get me wrong i wasn't stacked with a six pack, but i did not look too shabby.

Unfortuntely that was five years ago, and the same cant be said for me now hence the diet and silly gym workouts.

P.s. to all the people that have PM'd me i will send them details later

Snazy

lol sounds like my life story summed up into a paragraph lol.

Paying the price now, but giving it 110%

The Chief

When i went to get weighed the other week there was a guy in front of me and i swear he was shorter than me i'd say 5'9" - 5'8" ish or so and he stepped on and he was 19 stone, but i tell you what if you looked at him you would not have said he was fat, he was built like a brick s**thouse

Snazy

Yeah its amazing how much a big frame and a lot of muscle can make people "overweight"

Most pro rugby players are "obese"

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

Anybody with a degree of intelligence is aware BMI etc is all just a guide.

Snazy

And not even regarded as a very good one these days either.