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Old 18 December 2007, 03:44 AM
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Unhappy What happens when you lie a plasma tv on it's side

As the title really.

Basically just moved from UK to Australia and the removal company transported my Plasma TV upside down . The removal guy's told me this when they unloaded it. It mentioned that it should be laid on it's side. So on taking i out of the big wooden box they laid it on its side.

I have switched it on and noticed that the picture is slightly fuzzy with interference.

Is this what happens?

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Old 18 December 2007, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Roo
As the title really.

Basically just moved from UK to Australia .....
Good on ya, Mate !! (for moving to Aussie).

Not sure about your TV.
Old 18 December 2007, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by velohead66
Good on ya, Mate !! (for moving to Aussie).

Not sure about your TV.
In QLD meself. Brisbane....you?
Old 18 December 2007, 05:29 AM
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They have to be kept upright and not be used at altitudes over 5000 ft above sea level. They used to blow up when being transported by planes
They also use a sh1teload more power than an lcd tv.
Old 18 December 2007, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
They have to be kept upright and not be used at altitudes over 5000 ft above sea level. They used to blow up when being transported by planes
They also use a sh1teload more power than an lcd tv.
But what happens when they aren't kept upright. Mine was laid on its side.

What damage does it do ?
Old 18 December 2007, 06:40 AM
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It will be upside down now anyway

Just give it a good shake, that should fix it - probably

Enjoy the sunshine
Old 18 December 2007, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Roo
But what happens when they aren't kept upright. Mine was laid on its side.

What damage does it do ?

That vast expanse of 50 inch mm's thick screen on it's side can cause the screen to crack
Old 18 December 2007, 07:38 AM
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What voltage/frequency are you running it at? (sorry never been to Oz)
Paerhaps it's not the UK 240V/50Hz?????
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Originally Posted by gpssti4
What voltage/frequency are you running it at? (sorry never been to Oz)
Paerhaps it's not the UK 240V/50Hz?????
240 in oz
Old 18 December 2007, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
240 in oz
yeah, but 50 or 60Hz. That'd be more likely to cause a problem than going from 230 to 240V
Old 18 December 2007, 08:07 AM
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Its not an etch a sketch, should be fine as long as it was packed correctly and did not have anything resting on/against the screen.

Have packed them at all sorts of angles when loading them before/after events.
Old 18 December 2007, 08:25 AM
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bloody ell there is loads of us
rod north lakes brissy

4 weeks in a salty air sea container cant do it any good either
Old 18 December 2007, 08:53 AM
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Does it have a flashing bright green pixel ?????????????????????

Old 18 December 2007, 08:57 AM
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Didn't realise they had TV stations in Oz - they've come on a long way
Old 18 December 2007, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Roo
In QLD meself. Brisbane....you?

Yup, I'm in Brizvegas too.

The *Smart* State.
Well, they did introduce the cane toad.
D'oh!
Old 18 December 2007, 09:22 AM
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Maybe pot luck chap - you'll have to wait and see if things settle down. I moved from both UK to Aus and back with different TV's and they all worked but that was mainly due to luck than anything else. As for 4 weeks at sea- make it nearer 8 with all the hanging around on the docks etc, plus the long wait for customers to check you have no wood in your belongings. And it may well have been moved lots as well, so if it is knackered, then not a lot you can do about it, although you may be able to get it repaired out there, and claim under your transport insurance, which is what it is there for. We claimed both times we moved.

Having said that, we also have a house in QLD (further north on the Great Barrier Reef) and all the stuff we left up there just rusts in no time with the sea air and humidity, so you'll have to be careful how long it lasts anyway...

Good luck.
Old 18 December 2007, 09:23 AM
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Is the picture upside down? lol probably more chance its got condensation or its got too cold.


I've never had a problem after laying a plasma flat or on its side.. I think its an old wives tale
Old 18 December 2007, 09:28 AM
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I had a plasma switched on on it side for abou an hour or so, was ok till it went 'POP'

But it had a fault anyway
Old 18 December 2007, 09:31 AM
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A vortex is created in space-time. You can actually step into the TV and will emerge at the nearest other plasma TV in space-time. HTH.
Old 18 December 2007, 09:34 AM
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Its like a fridge, you have to let the gas inside settle before plugging it in otherwise you'll ***** it up.
Old 18 December 2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wakeboardar

4 weeks in a salty air sea container cant do it any good either
LOL! - How do you think 99% of them get here in the first place?!?
Old 18 December 2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
LOL! - How do you think 99% of them get here in the first place?!?
Theyre made in the local electrical shops Paul, thought everyone knew that
Old 18 December 2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Its like a fridge, you have to let the gas inside settle before plugging it in otherwise you'll ***** it up.

Blimey, my first plasma old wives tale


Really, is that so the gas can circulate back around the pump and the pump does not go pop then




Having worked in events for more years that i care to mention i have seen 1000's of Plasmas loaded into vans/HGV's, etc on their sides backs and sides, unloaded and plugged straight in, well say after 20 mins +
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Theyre made in the local electrical shops Paul, thought everyone knew that
In which case i am as stupid as i look!
Old 18 December 2007, 09:46 AM
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No no no Paul, you got it wrong, dont you know you need to re-gas it too
Old 18 December 2007, 10:15 AM
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The reason why it should be kept in its upright position is simple.

The TV is crammed full of circuit boards - some of which do have heavy internal components: these are all designed to be supported vertically.

Lay the TV in any other orientation means that they may not be supported correctly, and can flex and vibrate when transported. This can lead to dry solder joints, hairline cracks on the PCB conductive tracks. Also the screen itself can flex if the TV is laid face down as components behind put can weight on the screen.

The problem is made worse when the Tv is used; where glue that holds components may have deteriorated from heat cycling, allowing components to vibrate during transport, damaging solder joints.

The same applies to any TV really, be it CRT or LCD. Just LCD generally doesn't have as much components to go wrong. But CRTs definetely suffer - even when transported in the normal upright position.

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Old 18 December 2007, 10:35 AM
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They also use a sh1teload more power than an lcd tv
This myth wears thin.

For a start LCD's have their back light on all the time even during pitch black scenes. Plasma doesn't use a backlight so will draw less power when displaying blacks and dark colours.
Old 18 December 2007, 10:47 AM
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I love that myth If anyone bothered to look at the ID plate on the back: Its about 50watts difference : if that.

Wow!! 50watts, what a huge amount of power, imagine how long it would take to make a cup of tea with a 50watt kettle!

So swap a light bulb for 9 watt econmoy bulb and you've made up for the difference!

Remember that when you have a 200watt subwoofer thumping in the background. While your missus is using a 2000watt hairdryer upstairs, with a 1500watt iron on the go and a kettle in the kitchen sucking 2000watts, with tea cooking in the 2500watt oven and cloths drying in the 3000watt tumble dryer, not to forget the 3000watt immersion heater after the missus used up all the hot water in shower!

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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
LOL! - How do you think 99% of them get here in the first place?!?
not with the company who shipped our stuff to brisbane in a rusy hole ridden container
my tools took 2 days to clean up
Old 18 December 2007, 11:22 AM
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i picked mine up and it was laid on its back to get it in the car,
mine has been, superb,
its getting like av forums in here,which shipping co's did you all use just out of interest.


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