View Poll Results: Would you give your child the MMR injection?
Yes, it's just scaremongering by the media
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No, there seems to be a link with Autism and Bowel problems
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MMR Poll
03 January 2008, 06:59 PM
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My daughter is coming up to her MMR jab, and am wondering what peoples thoughts are on it...
03 January 2008, 07:01 PM
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I have had both my daughters done... one is now 14 years old and one is two years old.
Think it was proved recently that the hype before was unfounded. Will try and find a link
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Think it was proved recently that the hype before was unfounded. Will try and find a link
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03 January 2008, 07:02 PM
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03 January 2008, 07:07 PM
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Totally agree.
BBC NEWS | Health | MMR research timeline
The first hype started in 1998 and my first daughter had hers in 1994 and the second one in 1998 and I went ahead with both.
My second daughter had her first one last year.
You can sometimes get a rash or a temperature but you can get this from any vaccination.
The alternatives to not having the vaccinations are not worth considering.
BBC NEWS | Health | MMR research timeline
The first hype started in 1998 and my first daughter had hers in 1994 and the second one in 1998 and I went ahead with both.
My second daughter had her first one last year.
You can sometimes get a rash or a temperature but you can get this from any vaccination.
The alternatives to not having the vaccinations are not worth considering.
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03 January 2008, 07:10 PM
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Your child is at far more risk by not having the MMR jab than having it.
03 January 2008, 07:13 PM
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I don't mean to be argumentative but the first three posts I looked at when i googled 'truth about MMR' turned out to be negative...There is so much BS about it, it's difficult to find the truth.
03 January 2008, 07:14 PM
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The most in-depth analysis to date has cleared the controversial MMR vaccine of any link to autism or bowel disease.
The researchers say their findings provide clear reassurance for patients and health professionals that the combined jab for measles, mumps and rubella is safe.
There has been a sharp drop in the number of parents prepared to give their children the MMR vaccination because they're worried about a possible link with autism and inflammatory bowel disease.
But a team led by Dr Anna Donald and Dr Vivek Muthu have examined research into MMR from 180 countries around the world and now claim the vaccine is completely safe.
BBC NEWS | Talking Point | MMR: Are you reassured the vaccine is safe?
The researchers say their findings provide clear reassurance for patients and health professionals that the combined jab for measles, mumps and rubella is safe.
There has been a sharp drop in the number of parents prepared to give their children the MMR vaccination because they're worried about a possible link with autism and inflammatory bowel disease.
But a team led by Dr Anna Donald and Dr Vivek Muthu have examined research into MMR from 180 countries around the world and now claim the vaccine is completely safe.
BBC NEWS | Talking Point | MMR: Are you reassured the vaccine is safe?
03 January 2008, 07:18 PM
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One of my daughters had MMR and the other had seperate injections (due to y wife reading lots of scare stories).
Both are fine and if anything the one who had the seperate injections is more painful / ADD
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Both are fine and if anything the one who had the seperate injections is more painful / ADD
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03 January 2008, 07:28 PM
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I know what you mean, but if you look at reputable sites. By that I mean NHS, and other health authorities, as well as BBC an reuters et al, you will find that the link between autism and MMR has been all but completely debunked
03 January 2008, 07:39 PM
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The poll is skewed. If you asked 'vaccinate or not' that leaves things much wider than the MMR/Autism circus we have/had. My 3 1/2 year old has had no vaccinations and will not be getting any. The scare stories are given out by the gov/drugs companies about the dangers of NOT vaccinating. Do some research (a 'search' on SN about vaccination is a good place to start as we have done this to death a few times) and you find that the *possible* side effects of vaccination are more worrying than the *possible* outcome of catching one of 'MMR', for instance.
IMHO of course, and my wife and myself did lots of research before we made up our minds. One example. you may think Polio has been eradicated by vaccinatio. But did you know that " .. Polio now hides behind these names: Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis Synonyms for GBS ..." (from Hiding Polio - couldn't be ar5ed to look for further references to this but there are plenty on the page).
Actually from the same site see Disease decline before introduction of immunisation for an informative graph. You often see graphs of the same thing but starting from about where the 'mass immunisation' mark is (in this case).
Enjoy!
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IMHO of course, and my wife and myself did lots of research before we made up our minds. One example. you may think Polio has been eradicated by vaccinatio. But did you know that " .. Polio now hides behind these names: Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis Synonyms for GBS ..." (from Hiding Polio - couldn't be ar5ed to look for further references to this but there are plenty on the page).
Actually from the same site see Disease decline before introduction of immunisation for an informative graph. You often see graphs of the same thing but starting from about where the 'mass immunisation' mark is (in this case).
Enjoy!
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03 January 2008, 07:46 PM
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Both my kids had the jab. My Son is now a strapping 16 year old, 6 footer (he hasn't got 6 feet, before you wags step in) and my daughter at 13 is catching up fast. Worst thing they have ever had is bad doses of cold.
I can understand your worry, we dithered on about it, but feel we made the right decision in the end.
I can understand your worry, we dithered on about it, but feel we made the right decision in the end.
03 January 2008, 08:00 PM
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All three of my kids have or are having the MMR. Look at this way, there might be a very small chance of complications with MMR, but there is a bigger risk of serious damage to your child if they get one of the diseases. Also with more people not having the MMR and your child not being inoculated, there is an even bigger risk of getting one of the diseases.
03 January 2008, 10:02 PM
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The poll is skewed. If you asked 'vaccinate or not' that leaves things much wider than the MMR/Autism circus we have/had. My 3 1/2 year old has had no vaccinations and will not be getting any. The scare stories are given out by the gov/drugs companies about the dangers of NOT vaccinating. Do some research (a 'search' on SN about vaccination is a good place to start as we have done this to death a few times) and you find that the *possible* side effects of vaccination are more worrying than the *possible* outcome of catching one of 'MMR', for instance.
IMHO of course, and my wife and myself did lots of research before we made up our minds. One example. you may think Polio has been eradicated by vaccinatio. But did you know that " .. Polio now hides behind these names: Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis Synonyms for GBS ..." (from Hiding Polio - couldn't be ar5ed to look for further references to this but there are plenty on the page).
Actually from the same site see Disease decline before introduction of immunisation for an informative graph. You often see graphs of the same thing but starting from about where the 'mass immunisation' mark is (in this case).
Enjoy!
Dave
IMHO of course, and my wife and myself did lots of research before we made up our minds. One example. you may think Polio has been eradicated by vaccinatio. But did you know that " .. Polio now hides behind these names: Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis Synonyms for GBS ..." (from Hiding Polio - couldn't be ar5ed to look for further references to this but there are plenty on the page).
Actually from the same site see Disease decline before introduction of immunisation for an informative graph. You often see graphs of the same thing but starting from about where the 'mass immunisation' mark is (in this case).
Enjoy!
Dave
Are you having a bubble bath?? Both those links are from authors of no reputation and give no proof nor reference to their data. The first author doesn't state what her PhD is in and neither state any affiliation to any University, hospital, research institution etc.
I believe that nonsense as much as I believe there is a B52 crashed on the moon
03 January 2008, 10:03 PM
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Every doctor I know has had their kids imm'ed.
It could be said to be child abuse NOT to, (Flame suit on.)
In the US it is law prior to entering education. Though of course nothing is without risk, it is much less than measle mumps or rubella and their complications.
It could be said to be child abuse NOT to, (Flame suit on.)
In the US it is law prior to entering education. Though of course nothing is without risk, it is much less than measle mumps or rubella and their complications.
03 January 2008, 10:10 PM
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Are you having a bubble bath?? Both those links are from authors of no reputation and give no proof nor reference to their data. The first author doesn't state what her PhD is in and neither state any affiliation to any University, hospital, research institution etc.
I believe that nonsense as much as I believe there is a B52 crashed on the moon
Dave
PS: the polio thing is also something I have seen in other places. Dig into it further ....
03 January 2008, 10:21 PM
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Hutton Im not having a go, but to say I "couldnt be arsed" to back up your argument doesnt give it any credibilty. This is a serious issue, especially childrens health, so dig out some credible evidence, so others can make an informed opinion.
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03 January 2008, 10:26 PM
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Measles as far as I know, is a very serious illness. Mumps, we know the consequences for boys and Ruebella (sp) same consequence for girls. Do you really want to take a chance???
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Deep will keep me right if I have got this wrong
03 January 2008, 10:30 PM
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Measles ....
Ear infection. Measles causes an ear infection in nearly one out of every 10 children.
Encephalitis. About one in 1,000 people with measles develops encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain caused by a viral infection, which may cause vomiting, convulsions and, rarely, coma. Encephalitis can closely follow measles, or it can occur years later during adolescence as a result of a slow virus infection. The late form, called Dawson's encephalitis, is rare.
Pneumonia. As many as one in 15 with measles gets pneumonia, which can be life-threatening.
Diarrhea or vomiting. These complications are more common in infants and small children.
Bronchitis, laryngitis or croup. Measles may lead to inflammation of your voice box (larynx) or inflammation of the inner walls that line the main air passageways of your lungs (bronchial tubes).
Pregnancy problems. Pregnant women need to take special care to avoid measles, because the disease can cause miscarriage, premature labor or babies with low birth weights.
Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia). Measles may lead to a decrease in platelets — the type of blood cells that are essential for blood clotting.
Ear infection. Measles causes an ear infection in nearly one out of every 10 children.
Encephalitis. About one in 1,000 people with measles develops encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain caused by a viral infection, which may cause vomiting, convulsions and, rarely, coma. Encephalitis can closely follow measles, or it can occur years later during adolescence as a result of a slow virus infection. The late form, called Dawson's encephalitis, is rare.
Pneumonia. As many as one in 15 with measles gets pneumonia, which can be life-threatening.
Diarrhea or vomiting. These complications are more common in infants and small children.
Bronchitis, laryngitis or croup. Measles may lead to inflammation of your voice box (larynx) or inflammation of the inner walls that line the main air passageways of your lungs (bronchial tubes).
Pregnancy problems. Pregnant women need to take special care to avoid measles, because the disease can cause miscarriage, premature labor or babies with low birth weights.
Low platelet count (thrombocytopenia). Measles may lead to a decrease in platelets — the type of blood cells that are essential for blood clotting.
03 January 2008, 10:44 PM
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Have two daughters 21 and 18 both were immunised before the scaremongering. When our 5 year old was due to have his we deliberated long and hard but decided we had to go ahead. I am pleased that we did.
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03 January 2008, 11:15 PM
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The link to Autism was found after tests in Japan, where the tests were carried out on a very small sample of children (and the media played on percentages, rarely mentioning research carried out afterwards)
Please do some research on the MMR, rather than putting your child at risk.
My daughter had both of her MMR injections and my son is booked in later on this month.
Please do some research on the MMR, rather than putting your child at risk.
My daughter had both of her MMR injections and my son is booked in later on this month.
03 January 2008, 11:20 PM
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Actually we did the same (after Googling it, bamboozling it and finding all kinds of conflicting amateur bull**** and advice on Optimax, French jabs, Broquet devices etc). Doc looked us in the eye saying it should be done and she had no axe to grind about best welfare of the kids...
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03 January 2008, 11:34 PM
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Hi James !
I have a cousin who's daughter is profoundly affected by autism.
But to balance the equation both her sisters also have kids with varying degrees of autistic behaviour, from mild to almost hard to tell, unless you saw them as young kids.
My own thinking is that the genetics are responsible for the problems, not any MMR or other medication.
DunxC
P.S. Hope Linz & (S)Callie(wag) are well !
I have a cousin who's daughter is profoundly affected by autism.
But to balance the equation both her sisters also have kids with varying degrees of autistic behaviour, from mild to almost hard to tell, unless you saw them as young kids.
My own thinking is that the genetics are responsible for the problems, not any MMR or other medication.
DunxC
P.S. Hope Linz & (S)Callie(wag) are well !
