Where would YOU go on hoiday with a 14 month old and a 3 month old?
24 January 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Where would YOU go on hoiday with a 14 month old and a 3 month old?
As per title....
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
24 January 2008 | 12:45 PM
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SHarm EL sheikh. Much easier to look after kids on a resort and people in restaurants are very child friendly. When I went there the waiters and sometimes even the chefs would come out to play with the children while you eat so you can a get a bit of time to eat. I went to a place called the azkabash fish restaurant opposite naame bay entrance where the taxis drop you off. The staff were great, I picked the biggest seabass off the display and they gave me that and tons of other food that I thaught they were going to stich me up for and the bill was £25.00. All the waiters took turns to play with the baby so we ate in peace.
While there you can go go-carting, Quad rideing on a track, quad riding in the desert or hire a KTM to razz around the desert. You will need to take your own car seat though.
While there you can go go-carting, Quad rideing on a track, quad riding in the desert or hire a KTM to razz around the desert. You will need to take your own car seat though.
24 January 2008 | 01:49 PM
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As per title....
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
I wouldn't even dream of taking such young infants to an area where people want to relax!
Wait for them to grow up a bit, you'll enjoy it more then!
24 January 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Personally I would stay at home and try and relax and enjoy the kids in their own environment. And try and move the break until June/July when they can splash around in a garden pool.
A cottage in Wales in April with two babies would shorten your life expectancy by a couple of years I would guess.
If you were wealthy you could go to the Algarve but take a nanny so you get a bit of a break as well.
Can you leave kids with granny or someone for a couple of days and take your Mrs off for a luxury hotel break for a long weekend?
A cottage in Wales in April with two babies would shorten your life expectancy by a couple of years I would guess.
If you were wealthy you could go to the Algarve but take a nanny so you get a bit of a break as well.
Can you leave kids with granny or someone for a couple of days and take your Mrs off for a luxury hotel break for a long weekend?
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24 January 2008 | 02:04 PM
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my two penneth ....
I have a two year old and a 14 yr old .....
Have taken both away when younger, took the 2year old to cyprus for christmas when she was one year old.
In my experience it would be a nightmare. One is a handful ... two outside of their own 'safe' environment would be no holiday for you or your wife. The only thing you could try is one of those places with a kids club but I dont like them and have never used them.
You yourself know how well behaved your kids would be away from their own home.
Me... this year my eldest will prbably end up going to Cyprus at some point with my parents and our holiday this year will probably be our club holiday to Isle of Man ... but I am taking 10 other members with me
I have a two year old and a 14 yr old .....
Have taken both away when younger, took the 2year old to cyprus for christmas when she was one year old.
In my experience it would be a nightmare. One is a handful ... two outside of their own 'safe' environment would be no holiday for you or your wife. The only thing you could try is one of those places with a kids club but I dont like them and have never used them.
You yourself know how well behaved your kids would be away from their own home.
Me... this year my eldest will prbably end up going to Cyprus at some point with my parents and our holiday this year will probably be our club holiday to Isle of Man ... but I am taking 10 other members with me
24 January 2008 | 02:06 PM
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As per title....
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
Me and the mrs are really confused about where to go for a two week break
last two weeks in April. Especialy as the kids are so young -
Choices so far -
Eurocamp France.
Villa on the Algarve
Cottage in Wales
Buy a caravan!
Or not bother at all and wait untill next year until they are older.
Any experiences from wise old parents frequenting scoobynet much appreciated.....
By the way the eldest is walking.
24 January 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Friends of mine went to the Algarve, little closed condo with a pool and a load of other like-minded and like-childed Brits. They did almost nothing except sit round the pool for a week and relax, befriended other parents (kids would start playing) and somehow took it in turns to keep an eye on each others children. Unfortunately, with yours being so young, a pool is perhaps not a good idea. And if you have anglo-saxon heritage, you'll probably spend all the time slapping suncream on them.
No-one's said it yet so I will - Algarve isn't getting great press among British parents at the mo
Southern Europe generally is based around nightlife, as we found when we took ours to Spain - the restaurants only opened after one of us had to stay in and babysit. Great place but needed better planning on our part.
Do NOT take them away somewhere where it's just you. The stress is More than staying at home as you still have to be with them all the time, just the environment is also unfamiliar. I don't know what Eurocamp is, but it sounds absolutely targeted at children and therefore a good choice, ie professionals there to look after them while you relax.
3 mths is really young though, not for the child but for you, there's still a lot of parental involvement at that stage and I don't know if you'll really relax during that time. Unless as said you have dedicated professional childcare that you can trust.
HTH In the last couple of years we've become experts at staying abroad in luxury hotels in great cities, ordering dinner as room service and sitting on the floor eating it by an ajar bathroom door as the bedroom light has to be off 
Our daughter's not yet two and she has about nine flags on her pushchair, including USA and Japan, it's usually a conversation starter!
No-one's said it yet so I will - Algarve isn't getting great press among British parents at the mo
Southern Europe generally is based around nightlife, as we found when we took ours to Spain - the restaurants only opened after one of us had to stay in and babysit. Great place but needed better planning on our part.
Do NOT take them away somewhere where it's just you. The stress is More than staying at home as you still have to be with them all the time, just the environment is also unfamiliar. I don't know what Eurocamp is, but it sounds absolutely targeted at children and therefore a good choice, ie professionals there to look after them while you relax.
3 mths is really young though, not for the child but for you, there's still a lot of parental involvement at that stage and I don't know if you'll really relax during that time. Unless as said you have dedicated professional childcare that you can trust.
HTH
In the last couple of years we've become experts at staying abroad in luxury hotels in great cities, ordering dinner as room service and sitting on the floor eating it by an ajar bathroom door as the bedroom light has to be off Our daughter's not yet two and she has about nine flags on her pushchair, including USA and Japan, it's usually a conversation starter!
24 January 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Friends of mine went to the Algarve, little closed condo with a pool and a load of other like-minded and like-childed Brits. They did almost nothing except sit round the pool for a week and relax, befriended other parents (kids would start playing) and somehow took it in turns to keep an eye on each others children. Unfortunately, with yours being so young, a pool is perhaps not a good idea. And if you have anglo-saxon heritage, you'll probably spend all the time slapping suncream on them.
No-one's said it yet so I will - Algarve isn't getting great press among British parents at the mo
Southern Europe generally is based around nightlife, as we found when we took ours to Spain - the restaurants only opened after one of us had to stay in and babysit. Great place but needed better planning on our part.
Do NOT take them away somewhere where it's just you. The stress is More than staying at home as you still have to be with them all the time, just the environment is also unfamiliar. I don't know what Eurocamp is, but it sounds absolutely targeted at children and therefore a good choice, ie professionals there to look after them while you relax.
3 mths is really young though, not for the child but for you, there's still a lot of parental involvement at that stage and I don't know if you'll really relax during that time. Unless as said you have dedicated professional childcare that you can trust.
HTH In the last couple of years we've become experts at staying abroad in luxury hotels in great cities, ordering dinner as room service and sitting on the floor eating it by an ajar bathroom door as the bedroom light has to be off Our daughter's not yet two and she has about nine flags on her pushchair, including USA and Japan, it's usually a conversation starter!
No-one's said it yet so I will - Algarve isn't getting great press among British parents at the mo
Southern Europe generally is based around nightlife, as we found when we took ours to Spain - the restaurants only opened after one of us had to stay in and babysit. Great place but needed better planning on our part.
Do NOT take them away somewhere where it's just you. The stress is More than staying at home as you still have to be with them all the time, just the environment is also unfamiliar. I don't know what Eurocamp is, but it sounds absolutely targeted at children and therefore a good choice, ie professionals there to look after them while you relax.
3 mths is really young though, not for the child but for you, there's still a lot of parental involvement at that stage and I don't know if you'll really relax during that time. Unless as said you have dedicated professional childcare that you can trust.
HTH
In the last couple of years we've become experts at staying abroad in luxury hotels in great cities, ordering dinner as room service and sitting on the floor eating it by an ajar bathroom door as the bedroom light has to be off Our daughter's not yet two and she has about nine flags on her pushchair, including USA and Japan, it's usually a conversation starter!Not going down that road.
Been going there for 30 years, never had a single problem, ever.
24 January 2008 | 03:23 PM
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We just got a cottage on the yorkshire coast last summer with our boy (he was 12 months at the time).
Was great, chilled out, nice garden. Couldn't have managed a holiday abroad, he won't sit still for 5 bloody minutes let alone 3 hours on a plane
Was great, chilled out, nice garden. Couldn't have managed a holiday abroad, he won't sit still for 5 bloody minutes let alone 3 hours on a plane
24 January 2008 | 04:10 PM
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I think the harsh reality is setting in....we should stay at home.
Some valid points to pick up on -
Flying with a child is not fun.
Pools and children dont mix!
It may be just as relaxing and a lot cheaper to stay at home in the garden!!!
And to anyone who thinks children should not be in a relaxing holiday environment for fear of upsetting childless holiday makers all I can say is....TUFF *******!!
I have had to put up with screaming kids on my holidays for the last 10 years no matter where I went, so now it is time for me to inflict some misery on the rest of the world with my two very own personal fog horns!!!
Some valid points to pick up on -
Flying with a child is not fun.
Pools and children dont mix!
It may be just as relaxing and a lot cheaper to stay at home in the garden!!!
And to anyone who thinks children should not be in a relaxing holiday environment for fear of upsetting childless holiday makers all I can say is....TUFF *******!!
I have had to put up with screaming kids on my holidays for the last 10 years no matter where I went, so now it is time for me to inflict some misery on the rest of the world with my two very own personal fog horns!!!
24 January 2008 | 04:23 PM
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You can go where ever you like if the kids go to Grandma's...
Went to Cyprus with my (then) 2 yr old... Never, I repeat, never again!!
Went to Cyprus with my (then) 2 yr old... Never, I repeat, never again!!
24 January 2008 | 04:30 PM
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My child has flown a hell of a lot and it's actually been one of the better parts of the holiday. Aside from take-off and landing, she spends a lot of time walking up and down the aisle smiling at passengers and seeing if she can get them to smile back. Sometimes she'll try to grab something of theirs. If they smile nicely I let her continue, if they look pissed off about it I take her away and apologise to them. We've had a lot of flights and not one major problem. The strange advantage of a plane is that she can walk around and you know someone can't grab her and run away.
Take-off and landing can be stressful and have been, but it's a baby FFS.
Key difference - we have one, so one parent can relax while the other babysits. You wouldn't have that.
Finally, if they get something like an ear infection just before they fly, you will have every parent's deepest sympathy, and probably every passenger's undivided attention - for better or worse
Take-off and landing can be stressful and have been, but it's a baby FFS.
Key difference - we have one, so one parent can relax while the other babysits. You wouldn't have that.
Finally, if they get something like an ear infection just before they fly, you will have every parent's deepest sympathy, and probably every passenger's undivided attention - for better or worse
24 January 2008 | 05:06 PM
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We took our lad to Southwold for last years holiday as we could drive there and it was excellent - sea front apartment and a very nice break, he was 4 months old then.
This year we will try him abroad as he'll be nearly 18 months. Hoping to go to Puerta Pollensa, Majorca which is a full on family resort apparently.
This year we will try him abroad as he'll be nearly 18 months. Hoping to go to Puerta Pollensa, Majorca which is a full on family resort apparently.
24 January 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Surely flying with children that age is going to be a right pain with regards to baggage allowances and pushchairs etc? I heard somewhere that children weren't entitled to an allowance so that will eat into yours (I could be wrong here) and when you factor in the cheaper airlines also stitch you up for hold baggage, its gonna cost a fortune too.
I think our holiday next year will be stealing the parents' place in Wales whilst they're in Oz/NZ or somewhere within easy reach of the coast for ferries. I really can't face flying with twins!
I think our holiday next year will be stealing the parents' place in Wales whilst they're in Oz/NZ or somewhere within easy reach of the coast for ferries. I really can't face flying with twins!
24 January 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Im off in two weeks time to the Canaries with the other half and our 7 month old. Bricking it about the flight incase the wee one is unhappy. Im more worried about somebody saying something if she is screaming as i would be left with no choice but to give them a slap
Baby gets no baggage allowance, so i only get a corner of my own case
Baby gets no baggage allowance, so i only get a corner of my own case
24 January 2008 | 11:35 PM
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I think it does eat into your allowance (but our pushchair has never been weighed - note we bought a little one for flying, we don't take the Range Rover that she normally uses) but as we are used to travelling and have slowly realised that we take a lot of crap that never gets used on the holiday, we just cut that out and everyone wins. Don't even need to repack it at the end
97T - Just try to plan stuff like her meals, sleeping time etc. Bottle in the mouth during take off and landing if possible so she'll be a) occupied b) swallowing therefore no ear pressure.
97T - Just try to plan stuff like her meals, sleeping time etc. Bottle in the mouth during take off and landing if possible so she'll be a) occupied b) swallowing therefore no ear pressure.
25 January 2008 | 12:07 AM
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We took our daughter on holiday last year when she was 3 months old. We also had our 2 year old and my 10 year old. However my parents also came along because it helped a great deal and they had a fantastic time seeing the kids on holiday playing and swimming.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
25 January 2008 | 12:41 AM
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People treat children like unwanted accesories and then wonder why they end up hanging around shops mugging grannies. Plan well and you can take them to any number of places. Airports can be tough but most airlines are prepared for pushchairs etc.
25 January 2008 | 12:42 AM
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We took our daughter on holiday last year when she was 3 months old. We also had our 2 year old and my 10 year old. However my parents also came along because it helped a great deal and they had a fantastic time seeing the kids on holiday playing and swimming.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
25 January 2008 | 12:45 AM
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We took our daughter on holiday last year when she was 3 months old. We also had our 2 year old and my 10 year old. However my parents also came along because it helped a great deal and they had a fantastic time seeing the kids on holiday playing and swimming.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
exactly
25 January 2008 | 12:47 AM
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We took our daughter on holiday last year when she was 3 months old. We also had our 2 year old and my 10 year old. However my parents also came along because it helped a great deal and they had a fantastic time seeing the kids on holiday playing and swimming.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
We were concerned about the flight. However we were wrong to be concerned, our little miss never made a peep all the way there and all the way back and not because she was asleep. Even our 2 year old behaved himself pretty much most of the time.
You go where you want to go and see what happens. If you stay at home for fear of it being a nightmare you are denying yourself possibly the opposite and having a fantastic time.
My 10 year old went off playing in the pool with all the other kids of similar age and spent time with his little bro and sis, our 2 year old learnt to jump in the pool and then couldn't stop him and our 3 month old went in a swimming pool for the first time and loved every second of it and spent a lot of time in the pool getting lots of fuss and attention from everyone.
I see it my kids deserve a holiday every year just as much as I do and I wouldn't enjoy it one little bit if I had to leave them behind. If you can get your parents to go with you not only is it handy for the help but also nice to have other family to share the holiday with.
25 January 2008 | 12:54 AM
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Thankfully they behave themselves around others as well so we are very fortunate for that. I hope it also means that going on planes from a young age they will become used to it and not misbehave on flights as they get older.
25 January 2008 | 09:03 AM
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As for Holidays with babies - sounds like a stress fest to me.
Better of staying at home and spending quality time with you young family