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Old 06 February 2008, 09:43 AM
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Did no-one see this? Thought you'd all be drooling over it...

Son of Concorde, and then some!

The hypersonic plane designed to reach Australia in under five hours | Business | The Guardian
Old 06 February 2008, 09:45 AM
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If it ever gets built. I remember seeing something similar over 10 years ago and there wasn't the funding to take it to production.

It would be great to go so far so quickly.

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Old 06 February 2008, 09:46 AM
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Nice idea, but it'll never take off.



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Old 06 February 2008, 09:49 AM
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*rose tinted specs on*
It does not look as nice as Concorde

It would be nice if they build it, but there have been a lot of designs that have never flown off their drawing boards.
Old 06 February 2008, 09:50 AM
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hmm, wonder how much a flight on that to Oz would be then. Not gonna happen I bet.
Old 06 February 2008, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
hmm, wonder how much a flight on that to Oz would be then. Not gonna happen I bet.
You didn't read all of it? They hope the same as a current business class ticket.
Old 06 February 2008, 09:55 AM
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No, article seemed too long to keep my attention, only got through the first 2 paragraphs Not too bad a price then I suppose

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Old 06 February 2008, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
You didn't read all of it? They hope the same as a current business class ticket.
In 25 years time? That really will be a bargain!
Old 06 February 2008, 10:20 AM
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Of course with a length of 132m, ( almost twice as long as the A380 ) no airport will be able to accommodate this, so bear with the airport authorities whilst they spend 20 - 30 years getting planning permission, and actually building airports capable to handling a plane of this length.
Great flying to Sydney in 4 hours. Not so good if you can't land anywhere!
Old 06 February 2008, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Of course with a length of 132m, ( almost twice as long as the A380 ) no airport will be able to accommodate this, so bear with the airport authorities whilst they spend 20 - 30 years getting planning permission, and actually building airports capable to handling a plane of this length.
Great flying to Sydney in 4 hours. Not so good if you can't land anywhere!
Donut - didn't you read the article?

It can land on standard length international runways.

Unless they have an Irish/Welsh/Pakistani/Muslim/Scottish Pilot in which case it will be a case of [transplant colloquial terminology to fit]

Paddy the pilot says to Seamus the co-pilot
"Be-Jeesus, dat sure is one short runway - dat is right dere, to be sure"
Seamus "Ahh begorra - but look at how feckin' WIDE it is"

Old 06 February 2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Donut - didn't you read the article?

It can land on standard length international runways.


Yeah, but other than the crash the other week at LHR, when did you last see passengers disembark on the runway?
Old 06 February 2008, 10:58 AM
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LMAO off the artist's impression...it looks like something dragged from a 1950's sci-fi film set crossed with Thunderbird 1


Anyhoo, in all seriousness, we need somthing a bit more pioneering that the constantly rehashed slow cigar-sticks that we currently have to put up with flying in.
Old 06 February 2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
Yeah, but other than the crash the other week at LHR, when did you last see passengers disembark on the runway?
Quite often actually, saying that though, not disembarking from an airbus
Old 06 February 2008, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Donut - didn't you read the article?

It can land on standard length international runways.
The runways aren't the problem, it is the taxi-ways and apron that'll cause issues
Old 06 February 2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jods
Donut - didn't you read the article?

It can land on standard length international runways.

Unless they have an Irish/Welsh/Pakistani/Muslim/Scottish Pilot in which case it will be a case of [transplant colloquial terminology to fit]

Paddy the pilot says to Seamus the co-pilot
"Be-Jeesus, dat sure is one short runway - dat is right dere, to be sure"
Seamus "Ahh begorra - but look at how feckin' WIDE it is"

Yes I did read the article, and landing is one thing, PARKING the damn thing at a GATE, so that it doesn't BLOCK the taxiway, thereby CAUSING airfield DISRUPTION, so rendering the airport UNUSABLE is something else.

Doughnut.

TKS Moley!
Old 06 February 2008, 11:11 AM
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They fail to mention this isn't a new design.
The original concept was designed by sir Sidney Camm back in the sixties. But he died before he could complete the design.
Then in 1982, Alan Bond and Robert Parkinson came up with the "HOTOL" design. It looks virtually identical to the one mentioned above.
Old 06 February 2008, 11:16 AM
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First off, the world is run by accountants and nobody is going to fund something like this.

Secondly, as moley said most of the airports dont have the infrastructure to cope with something like this, most dont even have the facilities to cope with the A380!

I hope I am wrong but I wouldnt expect to see this in my life time.
Old 06 February 2008, 11:23 AM
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By now, you would of thought the boffins would have designed, prototyped, and trialed a hypersonic plane with vertical take off and landing capability.
Old 06 February 2008, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
By now, you would of thought the boffins would have designed, prototyped, and trialed a hypersonic plane with vertical take off and landing capability.

Google HOTOL, this story is 25 years old at least.
Old 06 February 2008, 11:24 AM
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Didn't someone say on this forum the other day that water vapour is a worse greenhouse gas than CO2?

It is an interesting project though.

Les
Old 06 February 2008, 11:30 AM
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Half the time at Lisbon I embark or disembark by bus.

I imagine this thing would only go to a few airports, as the massive time saved could then be used to put passengers on a domestic flight or short-haul nearby. So it's not like every airport would need an upgrade. For example, could even choose to land at London OR Paris (though I can imagine the political wars resulting from that!)

I'm sure the A380 was the wrong move. People these days want faster, not bigger.
Old 06 February 2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man

LMAO off the artist's impression...it looks like something dragged from a 1950's sci-fi film set crossed with Thunderbird 1

You mean like this?



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Old 06 February 2008, 01:09 PM
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Oooo, its the Fireflash!

Heathrow has its new emergency vehicles ready to go:

Old 06 February 2008, 03:15 PM
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If you can share the development three ways, it could be possible to develop it.

i) The world needs a reusable spacecraft or spaceplane. A son of space shuttle.
ii) Inevitably, anything which eases into space or goes much higher and faster will interest the military.
iii) Freight and passenger travel.

J.
Old 06 February 2008, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by vindaloo
ii) Inevitably, anything which eases into space or goes much higher and faster will interest the military.
Interest the Military perhaps - but not the civilians who run it; they'd accept the idea was a good one, then, regardless of the fact that a perfectly capable and proven system exists, insist on developing one independently as a "cost saving measure", which will run horrifically over-schedule, cost four times more than buying the proven example off the shelf would - and in actual fact, end up with a system with less capability than a 1930's Hawker Heart.

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Someone show the idea to Branson. He wanted to take over concorde, and is interested in Space Ship One / Two, no?
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