More council rubbish - man-wheelie-stunned-by-bin-fine
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Man wheelie stunned by bin fine - Yahoo! News UK
" was in shock when I found about the fine. I couldn't believe they would do that.
"I have my rubbish collected every fortnight. There are five people in my family, three children, me and my wife. Plus I have my daughter over the weekends.
"We recycle everything we can, including plastics, cardboard, tins, glass and paper. We have got a black box that is always full.
"It's only an £80 fine for flytipping. I would have been better off doing that."
In a statement the council said: "Copeland Borough Council will continue to crack down on the problem of overflowing bins, which cause problems for local residents and in the battle to reduce waste.
This just seems so petty and small minded - this hardly looks like the Mr Big of the rubbish world just a family man trying to get by - Shame on the council!
" was in shock when I found about the fine. I couldn't believe they would do that.
"I have my rubbish collected every fortnight. There are five people in my family, three children, me and my wife. Plus I have my daughter over the weekends.
"We recycle everything we can, including plastics, cardboard, tins, glass and paper. We have got a black box that is always full.
"It's only an £80 fine for flytipping. I would have been better off doing that."
In a statement the council said: "Copeland Borough Council will continue to crack down on the problem of overflowing bins, which cause problems for local residents and in the battle to reduce waste.
This just seems so petty and small minded - this hardly looks like the Mr Big of the rubbish world just a family man trying to get by - Shame on the council!
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Sometimes my bin is filled to the top and 'overflowing' (i.e. there is a black bag and the lid doesn't fully shut).
They take it without any problem. Does it actually say somewhere that this is an offence?
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They take it without any problem. Does it actually say somewhere that this is an offence?
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It is hard to believe that they have the brass neck to fine him at all let alone such an enormous sum for such a minor thing. I wonder if his bin was actually overflowing onto the ground or whether the lid was just stuck open by that 4 inches.
The reply from the council spokesman was typical as well when he mentioned to importance of re-cycling as if the man was not doing that in the first place. Just like our leaders, the trick is to say the opposite of what is actually happening if the truth does not suit the speaker.
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The reply from the council spokesman was typical as well when he mentioned to importance of re-cycling as if the man was not doing that in the first place. Just like our leaders, the trick is to say the opposite of what is actually happening if the truth does not suit the speaker.
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It is hard to believe that they have the brass neck to fine him at all let alone such an enormous sum for such a minor thing. I wonder if his bin was actually overflowing onto the ground or whether the lid was just stuck open by that 4 inches.
The reply from the council spokesman was typical as well when he mentioned to importance of re-cycling as if the man was not doing that in the first place. Just like our leaders, the trick is to say the opposite of what is actually happening if the truth does not suit the speaker.
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The reply from the council spokesman was typical as well when he mentioned to importance of re-cycling as if the man was not doing that in the first place. Just like our leaders, the trick is to say the opposite of what is actually happening if the truth does not suit the speaker.
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The irony of fly tipping carrying a lesser fine is just more beaurocratic madness and show how short sighted and stupid some council employees are!
Councils are there to serve us not the other way around.
I have to say our local NBC are good about this sort of thing and take an adult and responsible approach.
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Its to stop people trying to fight against fines!!
Just talking about this is work and one of the lads pointed out if he had dragged his bin out into the middle of the road and tipped it out, even if caught he would have been fined less than half and would not have had to clean it up !!
Just talking about this is work and one of the lads pointed out if he had dragged his bin out into the middle of the road and tipped it out, even if caught he would have been fined less than half and would not have had to clean it up !!
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Where have you been, NL have allowed a whole new bunch of people to raise fines, enter your home etc etc ..........
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What happens if you put it out before and someone else puts a bag of rubbish in yours.
I use a garden chair to climb into ours and compress it down, you get another few days, also, compress stuff before it goes in, a big milk carton can go down to a tenth of its inflated size.
I use a garden chair to climb into ours and compress it down, you get another few days, also, compress stuff before it goes in, a big milk carton can go down to a tenth of its inflated size.
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Stories like this always make me wonder how we used to cope. Years ago when I were a lad, the round metal dustbin was about half the size of a wheelie bin, and while it was collected weekly, all the rubbish went into it. I can't remember ours ever being full to overflowing and that was with a family of 4 (my parents and 2 kids). So the big question is why are we producing so much more rubbish now?
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Stories like this always make me wonder how we used to cope. Years ago when I were a lad, the round metal dustbin was about half the size of a wheelie bin, and while it was collected weekly, all the rubbish went into it. I can't remember ours ever being full to overflowing and that was with a family of 4 (my parents and 2 kids). So the big question is why are we producing so much more rubbish now?
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The recent litter out the car window debate is a typical example... here's a prime example why letting councils have free reign like this is a BAD idea. They're pretty much unaccountable.
Yes you can opt to not pay the 'on-the-spot' fine.. and that involves a trip to the Magistrates, who will almost without fail fall on the side of the council, despite it being a case of your word against that of some geriatric half blind cantankerous council worker with a previous lifetime history that'd make the Ronnie Biggs looks like a saint.
What happens if you put it out before and someone else puts a bag of rubbish in yours.
I use a garden chair to climb into ours and compress it down, you get another few days, also, compress stuff before it goes in, a big milk carton can go down to a tenth of its inflated size.
Stories like this always make me wonder how we used to cope. Years ago when I were a lad, the round metal dustbin was about half the size of a wheelie bin, and while it was collected weekly, all the rubbish went into it. I can't remember ours ever being full to overflowing and that was with a family of 4 (my parents and 2 kids). So the big question is why are we producing so much more rubbish now?
Also, 'in days of old' the bin might not have been overflowing because you were allowed to put extra bags out as well, I used to see this frequently.
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What happens if you put it out before and someone else puts a bag of rubbish in yours.
I use a garden chair to climb into ours and compress it down, you get another few days, also, compress stuff before it goes in, a big milk carton can go down to a tenth of its inflated size.
I use a garden chair to climb into ours and compress it down, you get another few days, also, compress stuff before it goes in, a big milk carton can go down to a tenth of its inflated size.
came to collection day and they still didnt empty it ffs
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i asked why the next time they were round and they said that it was compressed and they werent obliged to empty compressed bins as it wastes time and space in the lorry
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if we get desperate now for what ever reason we just go to the local tip.
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So all this is basically bollox, the same amount of stuff is going to land fill, just now we're all getting in our cars and making extra journey to get it there. Just think of all that extra CO2
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I genuinely think these idiots that come up with this crap couldn't tell their a*se from their elbow!
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Again,this is yet another way of targetting ordinary people. Not some criminal, but a family, merely throwing rubbish away. When I heard about this
earlier today, it was said he has one of those small black tubs to recycling, and does use it. Now if their rubbish collection is the same as mine, you can't fit that much in those tubs, which also are only collected fortnightly. So other than keeping rubbish in his home or garden, what the hell is he supposed to do other than put it in the normal bin. From what is reported, the level of rubbish does not sound ridiculous for a family, after two weeks. I think fining him is harsh to say the least.
TBH, if waste is such a problem, maybe more should be done at the source of the problem, rather than fining someone for throwing too much away. Start tackling the fact too much packaging is being used in the first place. Perhaps, if people are not recycling enough, provide something a little more substantial than what equates to a plastic storage box, or collect the recycleables (sp) weekly.
earlier today, it was said he has one of those small black tubs to recycling, and does use it. Now if their rubbish collection is the same as mine, you can't fit that much in those tubs, which also are only collected fortnightly. So other than keeping rubbish in his home or garden, what the hell is he supposed to do other than put it in the normal bin. From what is reported, the level of rubbish does not sound ridiculous for a family, after two weeks. I think fining him is harsh to say the least.
TBH, if waste is such a problem, maybe more should be done at the source of the problem, rather than fining someone for throwing too much away. Start tackling the fact too much packaging is being used in the first place. Perhaps, if people are not recycling enough, provide something a little more substantial than what equates to a plastic storage box, or collect the recycleables (sp) weekly.
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BBC NEWS | UK | England | Cumbria | Father fined for overfilling bin
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I disagree with this sort of fining, but he will have received at least one warning, which he chose to ignore.
The 3 of us easily manage not to fill a wheely bin in 2 weeks, though I agree having to drive tot he tip to get rid of recyclabes not collected isn't exactly green.
Councils are accountable - not just by voting for members, but people who feel so strongly should go to public meetings where policies are dicussed, rather than just complaining.
It's worth remembering that councils get fined hugely (and I mean hugely) for landfill, so if they can't reduce it, your council tax bill goes up to pay the fines. Who receives the fine money is anyone's guess...
The 3 of us easily manage not to fill a wheely bin in 2 weeks, though I agree having to drive tot he tip to get rid of recyclabes not collected isn't exactly green.
Councils are accountable - not just by voting for members, but people who feel so strongly should go to public meetings where policies are dicussed, rather than just complaining.
It's worth remembering that councils get fined hugely (and I mean hugely) for landfill, so if they can't reduce it, your council tax bill goes up to pay the fines. Who receives the fine money is anyone's guess...
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TBH, if waste is such a problem, maybe more should be done at the source of the problem, rather than fining someone for throwing too much away. Start tackling the fact too much packaging is being used in the first place. Perhaps, if people are not recycling enough, provide something a little more substantial than what equates to a plastic storage box, or collect the recycleables (sp) weekly.
The real culprit is Europe which has decreed that we're using too much landfill so councils have to pay for it now. The problem is the landfill thing maybe an issue in parts of Europe but we have shedloads of old pits that can be filled in for many many years yet.
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As for compressing rubbish in your bin, they either leave it or fine you for that too.
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Years ago when we first got our (1 of 3) wheelie bins I rang the council and asked if it was ok to put a big black bin bag in it to line it and keep it clean.
The reply was that they'd rather we didn't do that but used plastic carrier bags instead
The reply was that they'd rather we didn't do that but used plastic carrier bags instead
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Apparently cucumbers are wrapped in plastic because they last longer and so less overall waste. Aren't I clever
But I don't understand all this **** about plastic bags. Just give a months' notice and ban the bloody things. It will only take a couple of trips to Tescos without an alternative bag for people to learn. dl
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But I don't understand all this **** about plastic bags. Just give a months' notice and ban the bloody things. It will only take a couple of trips to Tescos without an alternative bag for people to learn. dl
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To be honest I think they are just trying to cause so much hassle that you will employ the services of a private bin emptying firm. Of course you won't see a reduction in council tax, and in coming years they will just impose higher rubbish taxes on the private firm for more income.
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In the good old days we had a coal fire which meant we burnt everything we could (packaging, etc)
The dustbin used to take the ashes (except for when there was snow outside when we'd use it on the paths) which meant less contents but more weight.
In those days the dustment (pre refuse collectors) would have to lift the bins and carry them to their carts to empty as well - not push it to the back and press a button to get it emptied.
Bloody EU regs are/ have spoilt britain (not worth a capital B)
The dustbin used to take the ashes (except for when there was snow outside when we'd use it on the paths) which meant less contents but more weight.
In those days the dustment (pre refuse collectors) would have to lift the bins and carry them to their carts to empty as well - not push it to the back and press a button to get it emptied.
Bloody EU regs are/ have spoilt britain (not worth a capital B)