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Old 15 May 2008, 10:27 PM
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Question Criminals on our streets

What is the common denominator ?
What "Profile" fits the majority of crime perpetrators?
What "Profile" fits the majority of crime victims?

To the Feds on SN - There must be statistics ?

Surely the facts can be discussed ?

Obviously, discounting the millions of Crims who drive at 35 in a 30 etc (Heinous *****, one and all )
Old 15 May 2008, 10:31 PM
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Addiction to drugs fuels most shopliftings and burglaries.

Most victims are normal working people.
Old 15 May 2008, 10:43 PM
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Unemployed chavs
Old 15 May 2008, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Addiction to drugs fuels most shopliftings and burglaries.

Most victims are normal working people.
You ought to read Theodore Dalrymple on criminals and "drug addiction" - he used to be a prison doctor so knows something of the subject. Suffice to say he reckons alcohol addiction is more serious and most of the time the crims just put it on
Old 15 May 2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
You ought to read Theodore Dalrymple on criminals and "drug addiction" - he used to be a prison doctor so knows something of the subject. Suffice to say he reckons alcohol addiction is more serious and most of the time the crims just put it on
Booze and drugs both seem to work hand in hand, sadly. All theft related arrests from petty shoplifting to burglary, to armed robbery result in a drugs test for the arrested person. I'd say 98% of them come back positive for crack, heroin or both. The other 2% are either non-users or haven't had enough cash to buy gear.

But I agree that booze plays a part.
Old 16 May 2008, 01:27 AM
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As above

And, most crims tend to have or come from big families. So they have loads of kids, often to different people and expect the social security to look after them. These kids then look at the adults – see them as never going to work, always drunk and managing to survive – so the kids think well I’ll do the same. And so the vicious circle continues and the population explodes.

The more civilised among us will work hard to provide a home and a stable background for our kids. We will perhaps have 2 – 3 children because that is all we can afford or the size of the house will allow. We will also recognise that to have more will be difficult for child care and to give them each the attention they need for schooling and development and to teach them right from wrong. Whereas the others will see that the more kids they have, the bigger the house they get
Old 16 May 2008, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
As above

And, most crims tend to have or come from big families. So they have loads of kids, often to different people and expect the social security to look after them. These kids then look at the adults – see them as never going to work, always drunk and managing to survive – so the kids think well I’ll do the same. And so the vicious circle continues and the population explodes.

The more civilised among us will work hard to provide a home and a stable background for our kids. We will perhaps have 2 – 3 children because that is all we can afford or the size of the house will allow. We will also recognise that to have more will be difficult for child care and to give them each the attention they need for schooling and development and to teach them right from wrong. Whereas the others will see that the more kids they have, the bigger the house they get

Interesting and agreed Felix
Old 16 May 2008, 09:21 AM
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Quite a good breakdown of the prison population here

BBC News | In detail: Prisons in the UK, Prison population

So is this




It's clear that a troubled upbringing means you are far more likely to end up in prison.


I would also say that being unemployed does not automatically make you a "chav" or a "criminal"
Old 16 May 2008, 12:29 PM
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To this Government its a





"Driver" fine him or tax him or do both. But they are evil and must be punished!
Old 16 May 2008, 12:38 PM
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you all failed to mention our bloody Labour Government...they are the biggest bunch of criminals. Thieving, lying, cheating and doing more illegal deals than anybody

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Old 16 May 2008, 12:42 PM
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shhh - dont tell Pete or Martin!
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