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Old 18 June 2008, 10:05 AM
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Default Can the CSA look into proceeds from a property sale? - 100% profit

I will be "gifted" a property soon, which I intend to sell, making in my view 100% profit on it.

Will that be classed as earnings and be eligible for the CSA to take a chunk of it?

It will be my only official owned property, not sure if this makes any difference.


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Old 18 June 2008, 10:10 AM
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Definitley an asset, but just how that will effect your 'maintenance' I'm not sure!?!

I thought that 'maintenance' was based upon income rather than savings
Old 18 June 2008, 10:17 AM
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Yep you're right, CSA is only worked out on financial income through salary.

If you have £100k in savings, then that has nothing to do with the CSA.
Old 18 June 2008, 10:19 AM
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I am with GH on this one........

As I am aware they can not take it into account on your monthly payments
Old 18 June 2008, 11:13 AM
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But surely if I sell it, it then becomes an "income"
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Thought it was regular income that they based their "calculations" on...?

As your windfall will not be regular income, I can't see how they would know about it, let alone class it as regular income.

They really deserve a big from me anyway, whatever they do.
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Originally Posted by cookstar
But surely if I sell it, it then becomes an "income"
From the csa

We work out child maintenance by applying one of four rates to the non-resident parent’s income. Income is earnings, money from an occupational or personal pension, and tax credits. We use the amount of income left after things like income tax, National Insurance and any money paid into a pension scheme have been taken off.
So based on their information, money derived from the house sale will be classed as savings (as we assume that is where it will go ) and so not be used for the calculation. It is not as though you are getting a regular income (which is liable to tax anyway) from the house sale, it is one lump sum.

You should be fine.
If, they do go sniffing, just use Plan B which you had in place, which was to spend it on class a drugs and high class hookers
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
If, they do go sniffing, just use Plan B which you had in place, which was to spend it on class a drugs and high class hookers
Or Plan C - Do the decent thing and give some to your kids, or put it in a trust fund
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
From the csa


So based on their information, money derived from the house sale will be classed as savings (as we assume that is where it will go ) and so not be used for the calculation. It is not as though you are getting a regular income (which is liable to tax anyway) from the house sale, it is one lump sum.

You should be fine.
If, they do go sniffing, just use Plan B which you had in place, which was to spend it on class a drugs and high class hookers

Plan B?? That was plan A
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Or Plan C - Do the decent thing and give some to your kids, or put it in a trust fund

It will be used to buy my own property, which is in effect a trust fund for him anyway.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Or Plan C - Do the decent thing and give some to your kids, or put it in a trust fund

oh yes, that is what I meant to write...bloody 'self learning' grammar/spell checker I have here
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Originally Posted by cookstar
It will be used to buy my own property, which is in effect a trust fund for him anyway.
Indeed

If you are using it to buy a property, I think you have a good case to argue against any involvement from the CSA, given that you are providing a home for when he stays with you etc.
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when i sold a couple of properties a few years ago CSA took ot onto consideration the % i was earning and put it into my income for calculations

so i just bought another propery with it so they couldny touch it
as i was paying £500 a month CSA before the do gooders say i should pay !!
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Originally Posted by lordharding

as i was paying £500 a month CSA before the do gooders say i should pay !!



It's all relative isn't it - I mean if you were earning £5K a month and paid £500 towards the upkeep of your kids then it's pretty poor behaviour - If you earnt around £2K then its pretty good.


At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the CSA or anyone else says, you know how much you should be paying to the upkeep of your kids, and you either feel right about th eamount or you don't.

My Ex could be earning £3million a year and I would still contribute my monthly amount because I want to do my bit for my kids.

If there is one part of life where you reap what you sew, it's how you treat your kids - If you don't do your part, it will come back to haunt you.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant



It's all relative isn't it - I mean if you were earning £5K a month and paid £500 towards the upkeep of your kids then it's pretty poor behaviour - If you earnt around £2K then its pretty good.


At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the CSA or anyone else says, you know how much you should be paying to the upkeep of your kids, and you either feel right about th eamount or you don't.

My Ex could be earning £3million a year and I would still contribute my monthly amount because I want to do my bit for my kids.

If there is one part of life where you reap what you sew, it's how you treat your kids - If you don't do your part, it will come back to haunt you.
All good in principle pete, but not when your ex is spunking the maintenance away on clothes for her and amasing a small EU wine lake
When you see little or no evidence of your hard earned being spent wisely, then it all gets rather annoying
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