norrie66

cant believe this this is the new policy to crack down on knife crime.
stab me then pop into intensive care and have a chat
f...ing nuts

DYK

Are you talking about Britain's Bravest coppers awards night..Heard alot of the coppers would not shake hands with the politicians.and to have J spliff present the awards is a stab in the back...

norrie66

thats the one

kingofturds

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She is unfit for purpose, no disrespect to the ladies on here but that is the only reason she is in office. There re plenty of appropriate women Pm's out there, but in labours panic to fill their quota they have chucked any dumb **** in.

norrie66

with a reasonable cleavage

kingofturds

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She is unfit for purpose, no disrespect to the ladies on here but that is the only reason she is in office. There re plenty of appropriate women Pm's out there, but in labours panic to fill their quota they have chucked any dumb **** in.

warrenm2

Come on! What about Blunkett, Clarke, and Reid?

mart360

I liked the bit where it said the victims would get to have a chat with the perpetrator.

Fails on two counts,

1) someone who,s been stabbed is either going to be sh*t scared of the person who did it, or probably going to want to stab them back, hardly grounds for open dialogs.

2) corpses dont talk

Mart

DYK

HMMM come on,really she should not be in charge of home defence.crime reduction,security,counter-terrorism,immigration,civil emergencies..sorry but for someone who was an ex primary school teacher,i think she should never have been put in this position..nothing against primary school teachers BTW,but stick to what you know..

swampster

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As one mother put it..

They want shock tactics? Well how about the shock tactic of sending them to prison and keeping them there for a LONG time!

fatherpierre

The worst idea/suggestion I've ever heard.

A sinking party, struggling with an epidemic and offering a laughable (if it wasn't so serious) idea to try to gain support.

What next? Rapists visiting rape victims.............

Prison is my answer, but I may be cynical.

Lisawrx

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Not cynical, but right on this one.

David Lock

An unworkable idea I would think. But Smith merely does what she is told like copper's pay rise bollox.

One idea might be to commission a horror video with heavyweight sound effects covering the crime, family grief and finally the mourning single church bell. This to be shown in a fairly darkened room and at the end I would chuck a bucket of mock blood over the viewers. This should give them something to think about but I suppose it would have to be changed regularly to avoid it becoming a cult video. Easy to distribute to police forces.

Prison is no real deterrent to these 12 - 18 year olds.

Trouble is the more it's talked about the more it moves into society as the "norm".

It'll take a generation to change the culture - a bit like drink driving. 30 years ago this was almost OK but now, generally, it's seen as unacceptable. dl

swampster

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Prison is no deterrent, because they know they'll only get a 12 months sentence.. if they're unlucky, and that will be automatically be cut in half provided they don't kill anyone whilst inside.

So they know they're going to be getting 6 months of being well fed, watching movies & tv, and generally being able to carry on being idle layabouts at HM's pleasure...

Leslie

If I was stuck in hospital trying to recover from knife wounds etc, the last thing I would want is some of those oiks coming in to stare at me.

They would only laugh behind their hands anyway and I would be worried in case they tried to have another go in order to finish me off!

Les

alcazar

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It's a bit like the idea floated this morning to make young people do conmmunity work.

OK............but who are going to be the army of people needed to get them off their *rses in the mornings, make them do a day's work, police it, etc etc?

And Smith's idea is equally unworkable, even assuming people WANT to meet the person who stabbed them. Who will enforce it? Who will mediate? Who will police it?

Just more Lying Labour CRAP!

Labour: tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.................so long as it's motoring related, and that the motorist is displaying a numberplate which has been registered and we can read it and identify them easily, otherwise, here's a crime number, now **** off!.

Alcazar

bugeyeandy

Couldn't agree more Mart, totally ludicrous idea from an out of touch minister.

These people have no fear of the law and until they do they will continue stabbing and shooting people.

Maybe we should set up some sort of 21st century devils island and incarcerate all murderers there for life with no possibility of parole. Give them each a small allotment outside their 6 by 6 cell and let them grow their own food

I've found an ideal spot for this walled prison island

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=goole&countryCode=GB#map=49.95,-6.35|13|4&loc=GB:49.95:-6.35:14|bryher|Bryher
If the population gets too large just eliminate the longest serving prisoners until it's back to a manageable level

fatherpierre

Have you ever been in Pentonville Prison?

Prison is a real deterrent to those that carry knives as they know that they won't get anything other than a bit of community service for carrying.

It is very difficult for anyone to get sent down in the current system and takes several convictions before any porridge is served up unless the crime is very serious.

swampster

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Nope not been in Pentonville, but I've been in prison's in and around the South Yorkshire area, not as a resident I might add.. although my nephew has spent some time in these institutions.. and it's far from "hard time".... my nephew's experiences mentioned in a previous thread.. https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ison-easy.html see post 25, seems the linking index is screwed

I do agree it's actually quite difficult get sent down however... his first stint was about the 5th time he'd been before a magistrate...

unclebuck

Did anyone in this so called 'government' ask the victims if they want to be paraded before knife weilding psychopaths before they made this announcement?

Thought not.


If this is the 'tough new measures' Heathcliff was babbling on about over the weekend then it's nothing short of pathetic.

alcazar

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Unless you are a motorist, who hurts no-one, just disobeys a speed limit
Or you are caught NEAR a speed camera with a can of fuel and an old tyre

Alcazar

swampster

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Just read the latest...
BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown targets 'problem families'

Brown is targetting 110,000 'worst families' with parenting supervision orders...
and the worse 20,000 families who don't respond could face... wait for it... eviction!!

How does that work if they own their home?

PeteBrant

Agreed, anecdotal of course, but no one I have ever known that has gone inside has ever described the experience as "easy".

I f they made possesion an automatical custodial sentence, then you would cut down on incidents.

spireite

So if a bloke pulls a knife on me in the street ,i should shout "go on then stab me **** ,its you thats gonna have to come visit me in hospital " Flash better watch his back

MJW

I don't think this crappy knee-jerk 'policy' will mean an offender will be visiting his actual victim in hospital, rather 'a' victim at random. But the thing is, surely someone who attacks his victim with a knife will already have a pretty good idea what a stab victim looks like already ! A better idea would be to bring knives in line with firearms laws & a 5 year mandatory sentence. Either that or use them to dig for IEDs in Helmand.

swampster

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KNIFE CARRIERS TO BE SHOWN ROUND SPOON FACTORIES - The Daily Mash

Says it all really...

warrenm2

But the Tories have attacked the government's plans, insisting the best way to educate young people about knife crime is to stab them.

Tom Logan, Tory frontbench crime spokesman, said: "For a first offence I would stab them in the arm, just above the elbow.

"Repeat offenders would be strapped to a large, spinning wheel and I would throw knives at them while wearing a blindfold."

He added: "I'm not very good at it, so they are bound to get seriously injured."

scooby(puppy power)

i know its a serious thread but that made me laugh it might just work though this goverment want kicking out now imo from things like meet your stabber to all the tax we have to pay now its getting beyond a joke

scoobynutta555

I'm probably the only, or one of few, on this thread that have actually been stabbed. 40 stitches in the face from 16 years ago. The last thing I'd have wanted was some gangsta **** watching me getting stitched up. They'd probably just stand there sniggering and making gun shadows with their hands.

Overcrowded prisons? what's wrong with a stock next to a pile of rotten veg ammunition or a public flogging