where does she stand - legally???
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where does she stand - legally???
Girlfriend has f**ked up big time at work today! She is the general manager of this company - anyway, she sent an email to her mate calling her boss all sorts - f*****g ****, a*se hole, W*nker etc... She's only gone and sent it to her boss instead Anyways, just wondering where she stands on this legally - is she looking at the sack or what??
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no he doesn't! To be honest, he is a bully! Picks on all the women in the place, including her! He is all of those names she called him, and then some!
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Is that deffo Telboy?? To be honest I thought it was quite funny at first, but the more I've thought about it the worse it seems!!
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No not definitely, i'm not an employment law expert by any means. That's just my opinion to be honest. But it's a formal warning at the very least.
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Is it though, because it was intended to be a private remark. If the remark had remained in-private then she wouldnt have done anything wrong and it only came out by accident...
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Maybe the boss reads it and thinks "Is this what people really think of me" and goes away to quietly contemplate his own failings that people think of him in this way.
On the other hand......
On the other hand......
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well perhaps she could explain her situation, she obviously got wound up by something and got bad tempered so she sent an abusive text about him to her mate.
she could have a mature chat with ehr boss as to why she did it, and she could explain why she used the words she did, but that was only a quick tempered thing. She could then go on to say what caused that spark in her temper and perhaps they could reach a compromise?
it all depends on what her boss is like.
however if she is getting bullied and other people are aswell, she could go to the otehr people and make them all write statements, she should write one aswell, and then if the boss threatens to sack her or sacks her, she could take legal action with this and the statements she has would be perfect evidence.
bullying at work is a serious matter.
a friend of mine's dad was getting bullied at work, and the result was paid leave due to stress and the boss got/is in the process of getting fired.
she could have a mature chat with ehr boss as to why she did it, and she could explain why she used the words she did, but that was only a quick tempered thing. She could then go on to say what caused that spark in her temper and perhaps they could reach a compromise?
it all depends on what her boss is like.
however if she is getting bullied and other people are aswell, she could go to the otehr people and make them all write statements, she should write one aswell, and then if the boss threatens to sack her or sacks her, she could take legal action with this and the statements she has would be perfect evidence.
bullying at work is a serious matter.
a friend of mine's dad was getting bullied at work, and the result was paid leave due to stress and the boss got/is in the process of getting fired.
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To clarify: Email sent to a friend (possibly not employee), not said in front of anyone or directly to boss.
Relax and breathe; I would say that this is not gross misconduct and would warrant a meeting to discuss her feelings about the way they interact at work. There is obviously a problem that needs resolving.
She should not ask other colleagues about what she should do and not avoid dealing with the situation. Get a meeting with the boss to draw a line under it. Send an Email to confirm the date and nature of the meeting.
If he wants to go down the disciplinary route, then she would have the right to a colleague being present (choose carefully). He would then be obliged to talk about their relationship and nobody wants to argue why they are not a w4nker!
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Relax and breathe; I would say that this is not gross misconduct and would warrant a meeting to discuss her feelings about the way they interact at work. There is obviously a problem that needs resolving.
She should not ask other colleagues about what she should do and not avoid dealing with the situation. Get a meeting with the boss to draw a line under it. Send an Email to confirm the date and nature of the meeting.
If he wants to go down the disciplinary route, then she would have the right to a colleague being present (choose carefully). He would then be obliged to talk about their relationship and nobody wants to argue why they are not a w4nker!
Nik
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Mind you if he'd have done the same thing to your g/friend she'd be calling for him to be sacked....
The best thing is just to put it all down to stress and take any subsequent punishment on the chin.
The best thing is just to put it all down to stress and take any subsequent punishment on the chin.
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To clarify: Email sent to a friend (possibly not employee), not said in front of anyone or directly to boss.
Relax and breathe; I would say that this is not gross misconduct and would warrant a meeting to discuss her feelings about the way they interact at work. There is obviously a problem that needs resolving.
She should not ask other colleagues about what she should do and not avoid dealing with the situation. Get a meeting with the boss to draw a line under it. Send an Email to confirm the date and nature of the meeting.
If he wants to go down the disciplinary route, then she would have the right to a colleague being present (choose carefully). He would then be obliged to talk about their relationship and nobody wants to argue why they are not a w4nker!
Nik
Relax and breathe; I would say that this is not gross misconduct and would warrant a meeting to discuss her feelings about the way they interact at work. There is obviously a problem that needs resolving.
She should not ask other colleagues about what she should do and not avoid dealing with the situation. Get a meeting with the boss to draw a line under it. Send an Email to confirm the date and nature of the meeting.
If he wants to go down the disciplinary route, then she would have the right to a colleague being present (choose carefully). He would then be obliged to talk about their relationship and nobody wants to argue why they are not a w4nker!
Nik
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Why didn't she just wait till her boss went out of his office. Run in, delete email (if not read), run out. Jobs a good-un.
Or
Run in, see email has been read. Walk out, say goodbye's and nip to the Job centre before it closes.
Or
Run in, see email has been read. wait for boss to return, own up, drop to knees, Blow boss, Keep job.
Or
Run in, see email has been read. Walk out, say goodbye's and nip to the Job centre before it closes.
Or
Run in, see email has been read. wait for boss to return, own up, drop to knees, Blow boss, Keep job.
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I would agree with the abuse part. If it goes down this route, make sure they have a policy in place and that it has been communicated effectively.
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Worley, how well up on this sort of thing are you mate? as long as she doesnt' get sacked I think she will be happy - ish!
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Got to be honest if it was me then unless she was a valued member of staff she'd be sacked.
You don't (or rather shouldn't) be doing things like that. If it was the other way around and the boss accidently sent her an email with abusive comments, no doubt you'd be asking us how much compensation she will be expecting.
If she gets the sack its her own fault.
All the best
You don't (or rather shouldn't) be doing things like that. If it was the other way around and the boss accidently sent her an email with abusive comments, no doubt you'd be asking us how much compensation she will be expecting.
If she gets the sack its her own fault.
All the best