warrenm2

Labour are going to win the next election..... according to Gordon Brown!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA He's not fit to run a bath unsupervised


BBC NEWS | Politics | Labour will win election - Brown

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

He has more chance of platting ****.

Leslie

Didn't Millimetre say that?

Les

The Zohan

Do you mean Millibland Les?

subaruturbo_18

I think im more likely to win the lottery 2 weeks in a row, then get struck by lightning .

unclebuck

More pro-NuLabor propaganda from the BBC

So Heathcliff Brooon is 'completely happy with the team' is he? Ha Ha... he has completely lost the plot.




"It comes as an Ipsos/Mori opinion poll has given the Tories a record 24-point lead over Labour."

Leslie

Close enough Paul.

Les

SunnySideUp

If the house prices spring back and we all start to feel rich again, they will get back in by a landslide.

I doubt that is about to happen so they will lose and we will suffer the awful situation of a Tory Government.

Devildog

Pete,

Given that much of the labour suport comes from those on benefits and in provided housing, I very much doubt that there will be any "landslide" if the housing market picks up nationally.

PeteBrant

Cobblers!

PeteBrant

I don;t think the BBC has anything to do with it - they are jusr reporting what he said.

nd to be honest, exactly what do people think he is going to say when asked if he will win the next general election?

Can anyone point me to the PM, or indeed a leader of the opposition that has said they won't win in recent times?

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

It's a good point though. Were there as many on 'un-warranteed benefits' when the others were in power.

OllyK

Nope, but just goes to prove what a bunch of lying MF's they are.

coolangatta

Hey!!
Stop foofin bleating, it's the government you deserve It's yours because you wanted it.
Can't believe those that are fortunate enough to have a democracy and then complain, complain, complain about their choice.

unclebuck

Who chose the Brooon Cyclopes to lord it over us then? Oh that's right - nobody. Some democracy.

coolangatta

I said government, not leader of said. Different topic entirely.

unclebuck

Hardly warrents the huge banner headline that the BBC choose(?) to give though does it? Where are the 'tories to win' headlines to give balance? Can't recall ever seeing any of those on the BBC website.

Martin2005

YOU have definitely got the government YOU deserve, making your usuall dumbass comments like 'Brooon Cyclopes', just shows you neither care for, or understand politics, and simply want to turn everything into some sort of playground name calling contest.

PeteBrant

To be fair, Cameron gets his fair share of coverage. I don't buy in to all this "Blair/Brown Broadcasting Corporation" business - Especially considering the Kelly affair, and Paxmans/Humphreys regular monstering of Labour MP's, not to mention Question time.

Devildog

Cobblers my **** Pete

I said "much of" the support not all.

For years the great "unwashed" voted labour. Why? because their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents had. It was, and is, the done thing.

How many conservative voting, work shy, council house dwellers do you know of?

Take the recent Glasgow East gig. Labour stronghold for years. About 10 of them have a job.

Housing market makes no difference to who they vote for. SNP got in because even the great unwashed are disillusioned with the state of things.

Labour are f*cked in the UK anyway because the've lost the Scottish vote that gave them the seats for all those years. That makes the Torys' job in England and wales so much easier.

Am I right in thinking you live in/near London or the South East? if so, take of those blinkers and widen your horizon to the fact that the rest of the UK is a completely different proposition.

Pete is just trolling again

Devildog

That may well be the case, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Brown is politically and financially inept - unable to answer any sensible question put to him with anything other than the line - "its not our fault, but we are working on it"

He's not a cyclops - he's a fanny...

Martin2005

You appear to have forgotten that it was the 'middle England' votes Blair won from the Tories that made ALL the difference in the past 3 elections

coolangatta

Yes, any ward outside of London (that previously voted labour) has a maximum of 'ten' people in employment. You have been informed

PeteBrant

So what are you saying? That in 1997 the Tories had a huge welfare problem? Because Labour got in with a landslide in '97 - So surely there must have been, because the only resosn anyone would vote Labour is becasue they are "Workshy".

I disagree.

Both parties have thier core support that will always vote Tory or Labour, regardless, and the Conservatives are no different in this respect.


You are making out that the only reason get in is becasue people are conditioned to vote for them, and only sensible people vote Conservative. That Labour voters are out of work, and on benefits, and just plain dirty.

It's no different to saying that Conservative voters are a bunch or two faced racist, right wing cvnts. Which in most cases is untrue.

Oh yes they do. People equate (falsely) thier house price with personal wealth, if thats doing well, they think they are doing well in turn.

I don't think for one second it will recover by 2010 though.


I live on the South Coast - Most of the south East is a traditional Conservative area.

Which Pete?

Holy Ghost

we can all gas about subjective details but the truth remains that the tories took the english vote in the last general election are on course to increase this significantly in the next one. couple that with a burgeoning SNP poised to asset-strip labour seats in scotland leaves the political wind blowing in one direction and one direction only.

brown and a weakened labour will be voted out and cameron's conservatives will be voted in. expect a landslide. where that takes us is another matter entirely. [shrugs].

labour is petrified by the prospect of another looming by-election - glenrothes - in the autumn. conversely, the SNP is sharpening its razor on the leather strop - ironically, every seat they take from labour reinforces the likelihood of a conservative national victory. this is what the chinese meant by the expression "death by a thousand cuts". brown has been cut for 12 months without respite and his government is bleeding to death.

Martin2005

Yes we all know the likely outcome of the next election, that wasn't the point of my response, I was simply responding to the notion that voters can be easily pigeon holed into different camps based purely on how much money they have or where they live, if that were the case the Tory party would never lose an election
Sure the conservatives won England in 2005, (not by that much mind), they also lost it in 97 and 2001.

I suspect that even if we have a benign economic climate right now the government would be struggling, people just get tired and bored with the same old faces, saying the same old things. When things are not going well those feelings just get amplified (if you don't believe me, just read any politically based thread on here, filed with unjustified vitriol and bile)

Devildog

Dude, you appear to live in Japan?

Devildog

So do I Pete, you are misquoting me. I said the great unwashed vote labour, not that all labour voters are the great unwashed.

Agreed. But those who don't own their own house will not be affected by house "values"

No i'm not. You are reading into my post something that is not there - See above. I'm saying that out of work, on benefits, workshy layabouts (in England, I should clarify, because the Scottish ones now appear to be voting SNP ) will largely vote labour.

Irrelevant in the context of what I am saying, as opposed to what you have read into it.

I'm not disagreeing there. And to be honest people who do that, and who are not actually selling because of necessity or contractual requirement (the kind of people who claim they have lost fortunes when the stock market dips but they are not actually selling stocks) should probably not be allowed to vote on grounds of, well, being a bit stupid

Time will tell, I guess.

So would it be fair to say that you are not regularly in contact with people on zero/low incomes?

Lewis, of course.

Yes, Labour got in in 1997 because "middle England" changed sides - or enough of it to make the difference. Middle England won't just vole Conservative because of house prices though. They will do it for a whole host of reasons from tax to the cost of petrol, or the weekly shop. Not all of which are Brown the ****'s (I'm undecided as to which offensive sexual reference suits him best fault, bit all of which he has the power to address one way or another should he choose.

And as I've said, and others on here from north of the border have agreed, labour, it appears, have lost the traditional, die hard, Scottish vote and hence will not have those seats irrespective of how parts of "middle England" vote.

OllyK

Actually, I suspect a reasonable proportion of them are amongst those that can't be arsed to go and vote at all.

OllyK

I find "3 lips" works quite well as insults go.