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Old 21 August 2008, 10:14 PM
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my son is Selling a moutain bike for £700 ,now a bloke has emailed and said he will pay £850 if he ships to poland but he is willing to pay paypal
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Old 21 August 2008, 10:16 PM
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does that 850 include the shipping to Poland

Ive been doing a LOT of selling on ebay of late, and at least 50% of the stuff I have sold has gone abroad and ive learnt very quick that postage is very expensive but the buyers are willing to pay
Old 21 August 2008, 10:25 PM
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Yes the extra is for postage
its not on ebay but the guy said he will pay paypal
i do a bit on ebay but im not sure if he could claim the money back some how ?
Old 21 August 2008, 10:26 PM
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Most international payments are via Paypal, anyway. Have you told this guy that the shipping of the bike will cost him £150? Or, does he mean he is willing to pay up to £850 (presuming that it may cost you up to £150 to ship it over) including P&P?

Perhaps he is genuinely interested in that bike? If he turns out to be the highest bidder, I'd wait for the money in my Paypal account first, then only I would know if he weren't talking porkie pies.

One more thing. Communicating with other Europian buyers is a nightmare due to the language barrier. Clarify things well in advance with any of the buyers abroad. If I were you, I wouldn't sell something like a montain bike to anyone abroad. Too much hassle with shipping etc.
Old 21 August 2008, 10:29 PM
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if the cash shows in your paypal account remove it and get it in your hand then send the bike.
Old 22 August 2008, 09:53 AM
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It will then get reversed when the 'buyer' claims fraudulent use of his credit card a month later, and paypal will take the money back out directly from your bank account, or if you dont have funds in there will start legal proceedings to get it back.

The buyer may well be genuine, but in any case I would ask for payment by international bank transfer - if he is a genuine buyer he should have no problem with this.
Old 22 August 2008, 09:58 AM
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Just tell him that for security reasons and peace of mind you would rather he collect it and he can ride it home.
Old 22 August 2008, 10:38 AM
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I dont do much selling on ebay anymore, but there is no way I would even consider accepting paypal for something that valuable. All the guy has to do is say the bloke never arrived and he can claim his money back. Assuming he even uses a legit credit card in the first place which wont be reversed later.

Direct bank transfer is th eonly way I would do it. The chap will need toknow your accounts IBAN number to do this.
Old 22 August 2008, 10:49 AM
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I can sum it all up in just one word . . .



SCAM



Incase that wasn't clear I'll use a few more words . . .


RUN, RUN AS FAR AWAY FROM THIS DEAL AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN


Waggy
Old 22 August 2008, 11:31 AM
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If he has a paypal verified address and you get proof of postage then this should protect you under their rules.

However, I wouldn't use paypal if they were the last option on earth and if this is a scam they will try thier damndest to make it look like you are at fault and take the cash back.
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the seller gets the bums rush with PayPal, avoid it like the plague.

Even if you do everything right, they always side with the buyer.

And proof of postage doesn't mean a thing.

It has to be TRACKABLE for PayPal. Which you won't get to Poland.


Tell you what, I'll give you £900 and pay you by PayPal.
I'm in the UK and after you've checked your PayPal account I'll collect it in person from you.

It doesn't stop me making a claim through PayPal when I get back. You'll end with no bike and no money and I'll have a bike to sell on (£500 for quick cash sale)

easy money for me!

so wanna sell it me?

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ok cheers guys , its a no then
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