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Old 12 November 2008, 03:17 PM
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Default M1 average speed cameras?

Just been down the M1 through the average speed cameras...50mph limit. Cruise control on 50mph all the way.

Loads of cars/vans even lorries overtook me, some just crept past, some 70/80 mph and some must have been doing a ton easily (BMW's... bluetooth hanging out head).

Whats the score?
Do these cameras work?
Do you reckon they will get tickets?
Or do they know something?

I did read on here once that if you kept swapping lanes when you went through the cameras they couldn't do you.

Just curious.
Old 12 November 2008, 03:22 PM
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Probably getting off at a service station or a junction before the next average camera.

Or they have cloned plates.
Old 12 November 2008, 03:23 PM
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Which cameras, the ones by Junc 26? If you come off at J26, you only pass the first camera so you won't be cuaght if you don't slow down
Old 12 November 2008, 03:26 PM
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Depends where you join and jump off at. Its abit like the A14 cambs there are loads of rabbit runs to jump on and off with without getting caught!
Old 12 November 2008, 03:33 PM
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Well we did J29 - J26 and back and went through quite a few cameras. They did seem to be on the slip roads as well.
Old 12 November 2008, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
Well we did J29 - J26 and back and went through quite a few cameras. They did seem to be on the slip roads as well.
Not at Junc 26 north or south sliproads, I'd know by now if there were
Old 12 November 2008, 04:26 PM
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those SPECS cameras I believe are not yet type approved if you change lanes between cameras. So you pass first camera in lane 1, then second in a lane 2, then back to lane 1 etc.

or....you get really close to the **** of the car in front before you go through a camera...

risky, but people do it, and get away with it

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Old 12 November 2008, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
those SPECS cameras I believe are not yet type approved if you change lanes between cameras. So you pass first camera in lane 1, then second in a lane 2, then back to lane 1 etc.

or....you get really close to the **** of the car in front before you go through a camera...

risky, but people do it, and get away with it
The only problem with lane changing is you don't know how the cameras are paired. It could be 1 with 2 and 3 with 4, or 1 with 3 and 2 with 4, etc. depending on how many cameras.
Old 12 November 2008, 04:31 PM
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I know where u mean, they stretch for 9 miles. I usually weave lanes and hide behind trucks when the cameras come up. Not got a ticket yet and i use it every week.
Old 12 November 2008, 04:34 PM
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Your speedo won't be accurate though!

I drive through the 50mph specs with my cruise set at 60mph. My true speed will be nearer 55mph (as shown on my sat nav) and they're not going to do me at that speed.

I'm told if you average 60mph or more you WILL get done.
Old 12 November 2008, 06:31 PM
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Good point - has anyone here ever been "done" by a specs camera.
If so, what was the speed and penalty?
Old 12 November 2008, 09:19 PM
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My neice lives in Derby and was done a few weeks ago by some average speed cameras either there or in Nottingham.
Old 12 November 2008, 09:21 PM
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I've been done a couple of times here in Holland during the last couple of years. Usually early in the morning or late at night on the motorway on my way to or from the airport. In some places there are empty 3 late highways with 80kmh (50mph) stretches. Originally set up to improve traffic flow, but mysteriously became pollution measures when traffic flow worsened.

A little impatience is a bad thing and such times and typically costs 30 notes for 4-5mph over. No points here though.
Old 12 November 2008, 09:32 PM
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Your speedo won't be accurate though!

I drive through the 50mph specs with my cruise set at 60mph. My true speed will be nearer 55mph (as shown on my sat nav) and they're not going to do me at that speed.

I'm told if you average 60mph or more you WILL get done.
Exactly what I do too - still get loads of people blatting by at 70+. I always assumed they were in cars not registered or insured etc...
Old 12 November 2008, 10:55 PM
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Guys - at least there is (or may have been) a safety reason to do 50 in this section of motorway? Sit back, switch off, call a mate, eat an apple, and be a GOOD if somewhat unaware lowest common denominator citizen for a mile or two?

It may well safeguard a non existent roadworker? Although Fknows why I am joking about such a stupid way to treat drivers or lose their trust and respect... D
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I recall recently doing a trip round the M25 at about 3 a.m. where first the overhead signs said 40, then 30, then eventually 20...

There was no other traffic in sight, none, not even any lights in the mirror. Trying to go at 20 on a completely empty motorway is utterly utterly tedious and almost impossible - I was thinking that somebody was having a joke in the control room... one car on the CCTV, I wonder how slow we can make him go ?
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Its a lot less worrying, and cheaper to just set the cruise control at 50.

Les
Old 13 November 2008, 11:31 AM
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i always do 50 on the m1 specs zone......

like said above, there are reasons for the limit being imposed.

then i get to the "End of Specs" sat nav prompt, which translated into scoobyspeak means drop a couple of cogs and rip it !!!!!!
Old 13 November 2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Its a lot less worrying, and cheaper to just set the cruise control at 50.

Les
In a Scooby Les???
Old 13 November 2008, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
In a Scooby Les???
Persistance and determination Diesel!

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Old 13 November 2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
The only problem with lane changing is you don't know how the cameras are paired. It could be 1 with 2 and 3 with 4, or 1 with 3 and 2 with 4, etc. depending on how many cameras.
That does not matter. It is something to do with their type approval. If you land hop between each pair of cameras you can get away with it currently, which is what those people are doing.

It was reported by the national press over a year ago I believe, along with the specific details of what the cameras had to see in order to issue a ticket.

I've not tried to avoid them, as sooner or later the type approval will be updated, and I may not know before its too late
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Originally Posted by ricardo
I recall recently doing a trip round the M25 at about 3 a.m. where first the overhead signs said 40, then 30, then eventually 20...

There was no other traffic in sight, none, not even any lights in the mirror. Trying to go at 20 on a completely empty motorway is utterly utterly tedious and almost impossible - I was thinking that somebody was having a joke in the control room... one car on the CCTV, I wonder how slow we can make him go ?
ive been in that situation last year. i felt too embarrassed to drive that slow so i just drove at my normal speed.
i had visions of the motorway camera operator laughing his head as drivers crawled along at 20mph so i couldnt do it.

never got a ticket
Old 13 November 2008, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
ive been in that situation last year. i felt too embarrassed to drive that slow so i just drove at my normal speed.
i had visions of the motorway camera operator laughing his head as drivers crawled along at 20mph so i couldnt do it.

never got a ticket
SS, I think they are allowed 2 years to process speeding tickets for offenders on the M25
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Originally Posted by MMT WRX
SS, I think they are allowed 2 years to process speeding tickets for offenders on the M25

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Old 13 November 2008, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
'Search' on here as someone posted a link to an article which said that they were NOW type-approved for lane hoppers! You have been warned!

Dave
ive seen something recently that said you couldn't trick the cameras
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Persistance and determination Diesel!

Les
Not to mention a chock and a house brick too It is a wonderful thing, and I have it on the family car - forget handsfree we're foot free
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I usually go through at 60-70 and never have a problem. I also lane hop, hide behind trucks and do anything possible to avoid the tedium of driving at 50. On a my bike I like to try and see exactly how fast an avarage speed I can get which makes the worst part of the motorway in a car the most fun on a bike. You must remember with the lane hopping though that there are more sets of cameras than there are lanes to hop so sometimes its worth hiding behind a truck for a while.


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