Ciggies - under the counter
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Ciggies - under the counter
Ciggies cannot be on show, need to be hidden.
I favour the move myself, if you smoke you know what you want and can ask for it.
I'm assuming it's to keep them from the view of the children? Make it appear 'less normal' to them?
I favour the move myself, if you smoke you know what you want and can ask for it.
I'm assuming it's to keep them from the view of the children? Make it appear 'less normal' to them?
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Out of sight out of mind? Wont effect those who do smoke but hopefully it might have an effect, no matter how small on the next generation
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Can't see it making much difference, I Think the people who try it generalyl do it because friends smoke at a young age or parent's smoke, I don't think a non smoker goes into the shop sees the cigs on display and thinks "i'll try them"
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I doubt it will alter the Teenagers who have seen ciggies being sold and on show throughout their lives.
It hopefully will stop the under 10's thinking it is 'normal'?
Yes, I did smoke .. started at 11 and stopped at 40 - only now do I not fancy a smoke!
It hopefully will stop the under 10's thinking it is 'normal'?
Yes, I did smoke .. started at 11 and stopped at 40 - only now do I not fancy a smoke!
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But that's this government all over. Just make everything illegal/hidden and the problem will go away....
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I think it's a great idea. I'm looking forward to other government initiatives that tell me what I should eat and when I should be going to bed too. We're sooo lucky to have a government that cares about our well being so much, and is willing to introduce lots of enforceable legislation to make sure we comply.
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Its a good thing, it will make smokers feel like dirty little druggies. When you walk past someone smoking, look at them in disgust, if we can get the masses to think smoking is minging and vile, which it is, our children wont want to do it.
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As a non smoker, I hate ****. Both parents smoked when I was growing up. Windows closed all the time too. My lungs would have been full of second hand smoke.
Best thing the government did was banning smoking in the workplace and in Pubs/restaurants. I don't leave work stinking of smoke, and I can now have a pint in a pub without standing in a cloud of smoke.
However, I do believe people have a choice to smoke. Just as long as that choice doesn't mean I have to breath it in.
**** under the counter is a step too far IMHO. This will not make people quit or prevent people from starting to smoke. The Anti-smoking brigade say people start smoking because of the advertising. Rubbish. It's peer pressure from friends pure & simple. Those who are weak minded or think it makes them look cool start smoking. Others don't.
Same as some silly bint on the telly this morning calling for FHM/Zoo/Maxim/Nuts etc to be either put on the top shelf and only sold to people over 18 or banned all together.
Everything seams to be coming under the stoplight to be banned.
**** - Ban'em
Lads mags - Ban'em
Cars - Ban'em
Best thing the government did was banning smoking in the workplace and in Pubs/restaurants. I don't leave work stinking of smoke, and I can now have a pint in a pub without standing in a cloud of smoke.
However, I do believe people have a choice to smoke. Just as long as that choice doesn't mean I have to breath it in.
**** under the counter is a step too far IMHO. This will not make people quit or prevent people from starting to smoke. The Anti-smoking brigade say people start smoking because of the advertising. Rubbish. It's peer pressure from friends pure & simple. Those who are weak minded or think it makes them look cool start smoking. Others don't.
Same as some silly bint on the telly this morning calling for FHM/Zoo/Maxim/Nuts etc to be either put on the top shelf and only sold to people over 18 or banned all together.
Everything seams to be coming under the stoplight to be banned.
**** - Ban'em
Lads mags - Ban'em
Cars - Ban'em
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Exactly. Great news for all those supporting a ban but at the end of the day this is about civil liberties. Personally i enjoy not smelling of tabs when i come out of a pub but we are already looking at banning greasy spoons and forcing truck stops to serve salad etc. It can only be a matter of time before drink goes the same way, after all drink causes far more problems than second hand smoke does.
I too am waiting for the government, which says i eat too much red meat, put too much salt on my food, get too much fat, drink too much and all the other campaigns they have going to tell me how i can die in a government approved manner.
Oh and i wouldn't half mind if they stopped bumpign the retirement age up because despite all this we are all living longer already and those who are old now grew up at a time when most of the population smoked etc!
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I too am waiting for the government, which says i eat too much red meat, put too much salt on my food, get too much fat, drink too much and all the other campaigns they have going to tell me how i can die in a government approved manner.
Oh and i wouldn't half mind if they stopped bumpign the retirement age up because despite all this we are all living longer already and those who are old now grew up at a time when most of the population smoked etc!
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I heard on the news yesterday that a council were refusing to issue new licences to shops thought to provide unhealthy food within 400 yards (or some other stupid distance) of schools.
Pathetic nannying by a control freak gov't.
Pathetic nannying by a control freak gov't.
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Never smoked myself but I don't think this will stop kids smoking.
Herion and cocaine etc aren't on general view but that hasn't stopped many kids getting hooked.
Herion and cocaine etc aren't on general view but that hasn't stopped many kids getting hooked.
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I believe trading standards laws state that prices of products must be clearly viewable. So in light of this are they going to hide the cigs but have a big poster with all the prices on
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TBH I think they should hide the booze too as it causes far more problems than smoking ever does, teenagers do not abuse people if they smoke but they usually do if they have been drinking and so on.
Misguided sentiments from the decision makers again, as much as I don't like smoking itself it really only hurts the ones doing it, especially now the new laws are in place.
Misguided sentiments from the decision makers again, as much as I don't like smoking itself it really only hurts the ones doing it, especially now the new laws are in place.
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TBH I think they should hide the booze too as it causes far more problems than smoking ever does, teenagers do not abuse people if they smoke but they usually do if they have been drinking and so on.
Misguided sentiments from the decision makers again, as much as I don't like smoking itself it really only hurts the ones doing it, especially now the new laws are in place.
Misguided sentiments from the decision makers again, as much as I don't like smoking itself it really only hurts the ones doing it, especially now the new laws are in place.
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how can i say this without wanting to start an argument, but in a none argumentative way.
y do you smokers out there want ot smoke, yes its your right and i don't agree with not letting you do what you want. but i mean more to the point of when the damage caused by smoking is so widley known y would you want to carry on?
y do you smokers out there want ot smoke, yes its your right and i don't agree with not letting you do what you want. but i mean more to the point of when the damage caused by smoking is so widley known y would you want to carry on?
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Looking at smokers in disgust wil have no effect, you're as bad as that dippy bint on Jeremy Vines show today who seemed to think that banning them completely and only selling them via the N.H.S to "licenced smokers" is the solution to the problem
There is no way to stop smoking unless it's made illegal which, lets face it will never happen as the greedy government need the duty to fund other things like our superbly run imigration system
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i think smokers deserve all the hassle they get. The world is not their private ash tray> I hate the way they just throw Them out of cars windows etc.
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Maybe ban chewing gum, as some spit it on the street.
I could go on and on, but I really can't be bothered. Basically, I see where you are coming from, but try not to over generalise. Littering and smoking doesn't necessarily go hand in hand.