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Old 17 December 2008, 10:01 PM
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just got in and see the news headlines , is this recession going to be worse than the 90's

i just cant understand why the goverment didnt act earlier surely they new way back that things were going wrong
Old 17 December 2008, 10:03 PM
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2,000,001 im quitting next week i reckon
Old 17 December 2008, 10:08 PM
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Labour cannot run the Country for **** nevr have, never will be able to.
Old 17 December 2008, 10:11 PM
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Will get worse yet i,m affraid, don,t spend your money on any Scooby mods incase..
Old 17 December 2008, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Labour cannot run the Country for **** nevr have, never will be able to.
That was the problem, most people are too young to remember the last time they fecked up this country.

New Labour my ar$e, same b0ll0cks all over again!
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I wouldnt gloat about it, but I do wonder what the real 'not employed' figure is? Four million perhaps?
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Originally Posted by GC8
I wouldnt gloat about it, but I do wonder what the real 'not employed' figure is? Four million perhaps?

yeh i wonder
Old 17 December 2008, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I wouldnt gloat about it, but I do wonder what the real 'not employed' figure is? Four million perhaps?
I'd double that, at a guess.
Old 17 December 2008, 11:37 PM
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It's alright, I heard Flash on the news saying that there will be new training schemes to get people trained up and into jobs You know, those millions of job vacancies, the ones that nobody is trained up to do...oh come on you must have seen them, the PM wouldn't just make some sh!te up to make himself look better would he?!

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I heard on the news that over 60% of jobs filled in the last 3 years went to European immigrants.
Old 17 December 2008, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
I'd double that, at a guess.
That would be terrifying.
Old 17 December 2008, 11:55 PM
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was told today i may be getting laid off after christmas thru the grape vine, truely feeling a bit ill over the fact at the mo.
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Originally Posted by GC8
That would be terrifying.
I'd quadruple it. After all it's only an unsubstantiated guess.
Old 18 December 2008, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
I heard on the news that over 60% of jobs filled in the last 3 years went to European immigrants.
Yep i wouldnt be at all surprised

Thatll be 60+ % of the jobs our home grown wasters wouldnt entertain taking on
Old 18 December 2008, 09:04 AM
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And yet Labour are doing better in the polls.

What the heck is wrong with people
Old 18 December 2008, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
I wouldnt gloat about it, but I do wonder what the real 'not employed' figure is? Four million perhaps?
It is 2 million. The Official statistics figure is just over 1 million (i.e those claiming benefit and not working) The 2 million figure is the goverment preffered measure which includes people not claiming benefit.
Old 18 December 2008, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
And yet Labour are doing better in the polls.

What the heck is wrong with people
Dunno

Because unemployment was much higher under the Tories under better conditions in the 80's.? (Plus of course, the Tories pulled every trick in the book to make the figure appear lower.)

Because Cameron and Osbourne are doing a sterling job is completely allowing a golden opportunity slip right through thier fingers?

It takes a special kind of incompetance to allow the Government off the hook and actually claw back thier share of the vote under these conditions.
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is that benefit and disablity ?
Old 18 December 2008, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
is that benefit and disablity ?
Depends on the disability I suspect.

The figure includes all people not working and able to work and either claiming or not claiming.

Now, this will not include single parents with children under 12 (Under 7 from next year) and of course there is a big drive to get people on invalidity benefit and single parents onto job seekers allowance, in which case they will be added to the figures.
Old 18 December 2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
I heard on the news that over 60% of jobs filled in the last 3 years went to European immigrants.
I don't blame the imigrants as many people love to do, they will take any job that many british people seem to think are beneath them, some people need a reality check
Old 18 December 2008, 09:19 AM
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i can see the figures going up , maybe more than the last dive we took , partley due to people buying on line - cant lose many more from manufacturing after all
Old 18 December 2008, 09:35 AM
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Four million by 2010 I reckon.
Old 18 December 2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lozgti
And yet Labour are doing better in the polls.

What the heck is wrong with people

I think it's what's wrong with David Cameron's Tory party that you need to be asking!
Old 18 December 2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
I'd double that, at a guess.
Don't you remember that BBC article they ran about that woman who had never worked her entire life?
She wasn't officially classified as unemployed because she claimed family benefit not unemployment benefit.

Factor that in, along with long term disability (which there are plenty of scroungers as well as genuine people) and I reckon you'd be looking at AT LEAST 6 million.
Old 18 December 2008, 09:54 AM
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Its just possible that they see no virtue in the usual sad policy of deriding the 'other' partys existance - although there is plenty of room to deride theyre leader, as theyve done
- at the end of the day i cant imagine how any one can lead us out of the sh*te weve been left in by Nu Labia

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The Tories don't seem to see the virtue in having any policy at all at the moment. They need to stop being reactive and get ahead of the game.
Old 18 December 2008, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bugeye_Scoob
Don't you remember that BBC article they ran about that woman who had never worked her entire life?
She wasn't officially classified as unemployed because she claimed family benefit not unemployment benefit.

Factor that in, along with long term disability (which there are plenty of scroungers as well as genuine people) and I reckon you'd be looking at AT LEAST 6 million.
(i)What's "Family benefit"?
(ii)As of September, anyone claiming for a child under 12 has to move onto unemployment benefit
(iii)This is reduced to 7 next year
(iv)One woman on the telly does not equate to 6 million unemployed.
Old 18 December 2008, 10:12 AM
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I dont think we will be in "hock" for anything near as long as the Tories make out.

As a percentage of GDP (which is the important figure, not the overall sum) we are still below that of borrowing in the 80's. And we came through that didn't we?
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Originally Posted by scunnered
I heard on the news that over 60% of jobs filled in the last 3 years went to European immigrants.

Yep i wouldnt be at all surprised

Thatll be 60+ % of the jobs our home grown wasters wouldnt entertain taking on
Ho-hum, here we go again, same old same old.

FYI, they are building a new power station near us on the banks of the Humber. The work has been subcontracted to an Italian company, who have PUBLICLY stated that they are to bring ALL their workforce from Italy, or the ex-Eastern Bloc

Meanwhile, my lad, a welder/plater by trade, made redundant this week, is STILL looking for work

Please stop with the "home-grown wasters" type comments. OK?


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