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24 February 2009, 10:37 PM
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Great vid, they guy in the driving seat looks like Mark Addy, well once he removes the mask it does.
I'll have to you tube the saturdays version of JCGE, I find it hard listening to DM's version these days, too poppy for my liking, I much prefer everything they've done since Construction time again.
The best thing that happened to DM was Vince Clark leaving and Alan Wilder stepping up imo.
I'll have to you tube the saturdays version of JCGE, I find it hard listening to DM's version these days, too poppy for my liking, I much prefer everything they've done since Construction time again.
The best thing that happened to DM was Vince Clark leaving and Alan Wilder stepping up imo.
24 February 2009, 10:51 PM
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Clever vid, but wrong. lol
if the views are as the car is reversing, how did he hit the pedestrian? it would have had to come over the car and landed on the bonnet.
also the construction site the objects fly the wrong way..
not bad though
mart
if the views are as the car is reversing, how did he hit the pedestrian? it would have had to come over the car and landed on the bonnet.
also the construction site the objects fly the wrong way..
not bad though
mart
24 February 2009, 11:09 PM
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It did, look at it again, he picks them up in the rear view mirror they hit the rear window and then land on the bonnet.
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24 February 2009, 11:24 PM
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25 February 2009, 12:14 AM
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No, it's a Vince Clarke song and he's licensing it regardless of DM's views.He also gave them permission to use the hook from a Yazoo song on another of their hits...
Whoever owns the song was my point sbe ashamed of themselves. Letting a pisspoor girlband ruin your song just to coin it in is
25 February 2009, 02:30 AM
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The reason is I remember Pet Shop Boys did a cover of U2's 'Where the streets have no name' and had to ask permission only because they segued/medleyed it with another song (Can't take my eyes off of you).
Bono said 'What have we done to deserve this'
but gave them persmission anyway.Also if it was the case wouldn't every wannabe karaoke performer or X Factor hopeful (the same thing really
) have to get permission from every artists they cover as they all get published on TV and YouTube etc.?Could well be wrong of course
25 February 2009, 08:22 PM
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No I'm not actually.
A slice of humble pie for bioforger
Surprisingly enough, if somebody is determined to do a cover version of your song, it is well-nigh impossible for you, Joe Composer, to stop them. In general, the right to record somebody else's song is called a "mechanical license," and usually it's negotiated in a routine manner between representatives of the copyright holder and the would-be cover artiste. (Outfits like The Harry Fox Agency in New York generally handle the publisher's side.) However, in the rare event that negotiations fail, the copyright laws contain provisions for a type of mechanical license called a "compulsory license," which, in effect, give anyone the right to record any song he or she wants to, as long as notice is given to the song's copyright owners within 30 days after the recording is made and before it is distributed. Compulsory licenses were written into the copyright laws in 1909 in an attempt to break up a monopoly in the piano-roll industry--an industry which has since been pretty well broken up, period. So why negotiate at all? Mainly because the law dictates higher royalty rates and stricter payment schedules for compulsory licenses than you can obtain with the negotiated kind.
But hey, you say, I've just written a couple of can't-miss tunes that I'm sure will rocket to the top of the charts as soon as I can get them recorded. Do I now have to worry that music industry vultures will steal them before I can make my pile? Don't fret, bucky. The composer's one inalienable right is to decide who will record his song first. Bob Dylan pulled this one in the notorious case of "Mr. Tambourine Man": the song was originally set to be issued in a version that Dylan had recorded live at a folk festival, but Dylan wasn't happy with the results. Unfortunately, his contract with Columbia didn't give him the right to decide on what material the company released, so Bob didn't seem to have much of a choice. But then, the Poet of Our Generation remembered his first issue rights and denied a mechanical license to his own record company. The album was killed.
But hey, you say, I've just written a couple of can't-miss tunes that I'm sure will rocket to the top of the charts as soon as I can get them recorded. Do I now have to worry that music industry vultures will steal them before I can make my pile? Don't fret, bucky. The composer's one inalienable right is to decide who will record his song first. Bob Dylan pulled this one in the notorious case of "Mr. Tambourine Man": the song was originally set to be issued in a version that Dylan had recorded live at a folk festival, but Dylan wasn't happy with the results. Unfortunately, his contract with Columbia didn't give him the right to decide on what material the company released, so Bob didn't seem to have much of a choice. But then, the Poet of Our Generation remembered his first issue rights and denied a mechanical license to his own record company. The album was killed.
25 February 2009, 08:28 PM
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Your point being ~?
Depeche Mode are Epic, I love the brooding, dark, kinkiness, the emotion and energy. I always think they were like Duran Durans deviant little brother who nobody talked about, even the early poppy stuff had a pervy edge.
The Saturdays, jesus what a load of old toss, but then again, not everyone is a DM fan knocking 40, they know no better !
Depeche Mode are Epic, I love the brooding, dark, kinkiness, the emotion and energy. I always think they were like Duran Durans deviant little brother who nobody talked about, even the early poppy stuff had a pervy edge.
The Saturdays, jesus what a load of old toss, but then again, not everyone is a DM fan knocking 40, they know no better !
25 February 2009, 08:58 PM
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Why, they are still making decent music, U2 have released a new album as well, I find I can listen to new stuff by new bands and still listen to the bands that have been around a while, in fact I found a Fun Lovin Criminals album I bought and then promptly lost which was a nice surprise, music doesn't have a sell by date.
25 February 2009, 09:07 PM
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Meh it's a grey area and there's lots of contradiction in that quote. On 1 hand it says anyone can record what they like, then it says not without mutual consent within 30 days between both parties, if the composer's music is used.
Humble pie, me thinks not
Humble pie, me thinks not
25 February 2009, 09:24 PM
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...which, in effect, give anyone the right to record any song he or she wants to, as long as notice is given to the song's copyright owners within 30 days after the recording is made and before it is distributed....
25 February 2009, 09:43 PM
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"as long as notice is given to the song's copyright owners within 30 days after the recording is made and before it is distributed...."
Notice the bit about before it's distributed! VC is the copyright owner.
Thus the Saturdays must of asked Vince for his permission! VC remixes alot of their stuff anyway. So they obviously have a working relationship and therefore must of had meetings to discuss what would be used, what could be used and what would be covered!
Anyway all this is irrelevant in this thread as I didn't realise this is the comic relief single and all proceeds go towards it. So Vince or the Saturdays aren't coining anything in.
25 February 2009, 09:47 PM
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Eh? How do you work that one out then? If anything it backs up what I'm saying moreso than for you ffs. They need permission!
"as long as notice is given to the song's copyright owners within 30 days after the recording is made and before it is distributed...."
Notice the bit about before it's distributed! VC is the copyright owner.
Thus the Saturdays must of asked Vince for his permission!
"as long as notice is given to the song's copyright owners within 30 days after the recording is made and before it is distributed...."
Notice the bit about before it's distributed! VC is the copyright owner.
Thus the Saturdays must of asked Vince for his permission!
End of!
25 February 2009, 09:52 PM
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you are 100% correct with one provisio the song has to have been released first -- buy the owners of it (publishers)
and obviously you have to pay the royalties -- which are a fixed by the mcps
this info is direct from my Father in Law, sitting beside me at the mo
Lead Bassist in the Manfred Man, Blues Band, and Mcguinness Flint
YouTube - McGuinness Flint - When I'm Dead And Gone
YouTube - Manfred mann - Do wah diddy
basically been in the Music Biz since the 60's
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25 February 2009, 09:54 PM
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you are 100% correct with one provisio the song has to have been released first -- buy the owners of it (publishers)
this info is direct from my Father in Law, sitting beside me at the mo
Lead Bassist in the Manfred Man, Blues Band, and Mcguinness Flint
basically been in the Music Biz since the 60's
this info is direct from my Father in Law, sitting beside me at the mo
Lead Bassist in the Manfred Man, Blues Band, and Mcguinness Flint
basically been in the Music Biz since the 60's
And a big up to your father in law