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Old 03 April 2009, 01:21 PM
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Default Mclaren are cheats!

Told you so. Now do you believe me?

How much evidence do you need?

Old 03 April 2009, 01:41 PM
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There not cheats they are simply just not playing by the rules......
Old 03 April 2009, 01:47 PM
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THROW THEM OUT

THROW THEM OUT

THROW THEM OUT

THROW THEM OUT

THROW THEM OUT
Old 03 April 2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
There not cheats they are simply just not playing by the rules......
Typical Mclaren supporter quote!
Old 03 April 2009, 01:56 PM
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Not necessarily cheats... liars - yes.
Old 03 April 2009, 02:01 PM
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F1 has too much money in it hence ANY team will do anything it can to get an advantage.

McLaren's problem is they are crap at it and keep getting caught
Old 03 April 2009, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HankScorpio
Not necessarily cheats... liars - yes.
Please define the difference between the two when lying gets more points? Or in this case, 0!
Old 03 April 2009, 02:19 PM
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A regrettable and very disappointing episode.

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Old 03 April 2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Typical Mclaren supporter quote!
I'm all Brawn this year, Nick Brawn was always a favourite plus I love the underdog.
Old 03 April 2009, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
I'm all Brawn this year, Nick Brawn was always a favourite plus I love the underdog.
Who is Nick Brawn..... I thought his name was Ross?
Old 03 April 2009, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony MY03WRX
Who is Nick Brawn..... I thought his name was Ross?
It is.
Not only is Timwinner fickle, he also doesn't know what he is talking about!

I'll ignore all of his F1 comment's from now on!
(You must have been getting mixed up with Nick Fry, but that is still no excuse!)
Old 03 April 2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Not only is Timwinner fickle, he also doesn't know what he is talking about!
Pot - kettle
Old 03 April 2009, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
Pot - kettle
explain.
Old 03 April 2009, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
It is.
Not only is Timwinner fickle, he also doesn't know what he is talking about!

I'll ignore all of his F1 comment's from now on!
(You must have been getting mixed up with Nick Fry, but that is still no excuse!)
Haha, I was typing a proposal and the consultant I am sending to site is called Nick, I humbly except my mistake.
As for Fickle... maybe or maybe I was just waiting for a better team to come along.
Either way I feel I have tarnished my F1 knowledge reputation on SN and I will not comment anymore.
Old 03 April 2009, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Timwinner
Haha, I was typing a proposal and the consultant I am sending to site is called Nick, I humbly except my mistake.
As for Fickle... maybe or maybe I was just waiting for a better team to come along.
Either way I feel I have tarnished my F1 knowledge reputation on SN and I will not comment anymore.
You're starting to sound like Hamilton, always apologizing!

Was only playing mate.

I too think it is great that the Brawn team seem to have hit the ground the running. I bet Honda a crying their eyes out!
Old 03 April 2009, 04:00 PM
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looooooooooool @ this thread, it`s not as though Ferrari are squeaky clean either considering some of the things that has gone on with them
Old 03 April 2009, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
looooooooooool @ this thread, it`s not as though Ferrari are squeaky clean either considering some of the things that has gone on with them
Name some. The last fiasco I remember was in Malaysia 1999 where their barge boards were in question.
Old 03 April 2009, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Name some. The last fiasco I remember was in Malaysia 1999 where their barge boards were in question.
you have just answered your own question here, openly admitting that Ferrari have cheated themselfs
Old 03 April 2009, 05:35 PM
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Sad episode, DAve Ryan has been suspended, he was the one who instructed Hamilton what to say. However Hamilton should not have agreed with him, it makes it look as though they were economical with the truth. Which of course they were.....
Old 03 April 2009, 05:39 PM
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Who cares?
Why isn't there an Eastenders thread, that's what I would like to know.
I feel like I've wasted the last six months of my life - that's all I can say!
Old 03 April 2009, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
Who cares?
Why isn't there an Eastenders thread, that's what I would like to know.
I feel like I've wasted the last six months of my life - that's all I can say!
Don't watch it myself but is this one? https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ielle-die.html
Old 03 April 2009, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada
Don't watch it myself but is this one? https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...ielle-die.html
Cheers fella - big
Old 03 April 2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
Cheers fella - big
No worries
Old 03 April 2009, 07:54 PM
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everyone knows that mclaren are the new dick dastardly team, a bit less so since the greezer left. look at last year with the spy crap. i think the fia need to be clear and stop dicking about with the rules. i think at the end of the race day whatever the result is should stand.

i also think the mclarens will fight back, but will be too little too late
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Name some. The last fiasco I remember was in Malaysia 1999 where their barge boards were in question.
They weren't so much in question as illegal due to being outside of the FIA specification. To be fair it was probably an oversight on Ferrari's part as the difference was only 5mm, but the FIA decided to allow them back in saying they gave no performance advantage.

To me the disqualification should have stood. They were out of spec and that should have been that. Episodes like this only gave fuel to the FIA/Ferrari collusion fire.
Old 04 April 2009, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
Name some. The last fiasco I remember was in Malaysia 1999 where their barge boards were in question.
The Schumacher years kind of ring a bell. Dirty under-handed/poor sportsmanship racing by that jig-jawed tw@t.
Team rules for the 1-2 finishes - again, poor sportsmanship - all instructed or supported by the team.

Several times last year where Massa's "racing" was no better than the Hamilton incidents which resulted in a penalty.


No team's perfect, but are Ferrari JUST as bad as MacLaren IMHO. MacLaren just get caught!

dan

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Old 04 April 2009, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
They weren't so much in question as illegal due to being outside of the FIA specification. To be fair it was probably an oversight on Ferrari's part as the difference was only 5mm, but the FIA decided to allow them back in saying they gave no performance advantage.

To me the disqualification should have stood. They were out of spec and that should have been that. Episodes like this only gave fuel to the FIA/Ferrari collusion fire.
That is completely wrong I'm afraid. Ferrari were told that they could not use the argument that there was no performance advantage. Instead, they used a loophole that stated that the manufacturing of car parts had a 5mm tolerence. Although they exceeded the specificied dimension, the barge boards were within this tolerence, hence why they regained the position. This is clearly stated in the rules and so the disqualification did not stand in a court of law.

And as for leaving the result at the end of the race the way it is, regardless of those who break the rules, you guys need to wake up. I guess you would have no problem then with being mistakingly called a kiddy fiddler and not want to prove your innocense in a court of law!

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Originally Posted by chrispurvis100
And as for leaving the result at the end of the race the way it is, regardless of those who break the rules, you guys need to wake up. I guess you would have no problem then with being mistakingly called a kiddy fiddler and not want to prove your innocense in a court of law!
Comparing F1 with paedophilia now? Get some perspective please.
Ooo, must dash, quali has just started. You know, the bit where the cars go round and round really quickly?
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Nice job Ferrari just did for Massa.


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