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Old 16 July 2009, 12:08 AM
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Default Why is this summer so...............

........crappy?

Or even the last few summers?

Apart from the Global warming nonsense, who thinks that there is another reason for it?

I have a couple facts that could prove my theory correct (at least in part).

Would be interesting to hear your views.


Old 16 July 2009, 12:11 AM
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No idea, maybe it's just down to natural climate change. As in, not specifically caused by anything, just what the world does.
Old 16 July 2009, 12:14 AM
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I agree with your idea, in part because we do not control the weather and there may be a very bigger picture that involves weather patterns, that we do not know of.
Old 16 July 2009, 12:17 AM
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I think this summer has been pretty good so far
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Yes, but..........................................
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Originally Posted by Tam the bam
I think this summer has been pretty good so far
Weather wise, I think it's not been great. Well not when I haven't been at work anyhow.

There have been the odd few hot, sunny days here, but mainly it has been close/humid, muggy and stormy. It's never really been cold, but stormy and uncomfortable imo.
Old 16 July 2009, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
No idea, maybe it's just down to natural climate change. As in, not specifically caused by anything, just what the world does.
Would tend to agree

What are your theories Janspeed??

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Old 16 July 2009, 01:54 AM
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The UK never gets long periods of fine weather does it, it's geographically challenged !
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its a completley average summer
Old 16 July 2009, 08:31 AM
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No, you're all wrong, I'm sure that those nice people who peddle, sorry, talk about, global warming, told us that by 2010 or so, Britain would have a mediterranean climate and the med would be a desert.
So it must be warmer, and you all just aren't seeing it.
In fact you are stupid eco terrorists for NOT seeing it
Old 16 July 2009, 08:38 AM
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Hows your Tarn front lawn Tanya - brown at all ?

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Its just the same as normal - a few hot days in a row, maybe a week at most then back to average temperatures with rain and the odd sunny day every now and again - I think we tend to look back on previous years and imagine that the week it was hot for went on all summer, and there was no rain.
Old 16 July 2009, 08:52 AM
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A real pain - it started off so well too!

But one benefit - the surf was head and a half high and clean on Tuesday. That doesn't happen when it's hot and calm (usually)!!
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Force 6 SW last Sunday and yesterday - cant complain

Left it bit lat e yesterday and didnt get off the beach
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if you ask me our summer seems to be moving forward. for the last few years summer weeks seem to be in april, may, june and by july its raining again.
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I think the summer has been ok so far. We have had a couple of heat waves and i am as brown as a berry

Too much sun for too long is horrible anyway. I love the rain as i don't have to water the garden.

Apparently we are in for a good August
Old 16 July 2009, 09:57 AM
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Just before the summer started, the media (such as the BBC & Daily Mail) were warning of a long-hot summer, where we would be out barbecuing the corpses of expired elderly relatives every evening. This coincided with a dry couple of weeks, which led rise to June being declared the driest for 3 years (remember how incredibly wet the last 2 were!!!).

As for the much reported heatwave that occurred during the second week of Wimbledon, I can confirm that much of the country missed out on that one. I had that week in South Devon on holiday: only a couple of days were nice with temperatures around 22°C and the TV weather map showed that the South East was 10°C hotter. Last week we were in Somerset and it barely breached 20°C with plenty of rain.

This week in Northamptonshire it has rained every day at some point and the 5 day forecast is for more rain everyday with temperatures of 16° - 20°C.

That's mid July for you.

The important factor seems to be our old friend the Gulf Stream. Apparently these previous long-range forecasts of hot dry weather were due to the fact that the GS had moved back up above the UK, which tends to leave us with fine weather. This week the BBC showed the Gulf Stream to have moved down below the UK which has left us with all this **** stuff just in time for the best part of summer.

Looks like 3 years of crap summers on the trot for us all then.
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If you don't have to wear a coat in July then you are having a good summer

In the south east we have been very lucky with the weather i think
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Originally Posted by dpb
Hows your Tarn front lawn Tanya - brown at all ?
Nope, we've had at least 50mm rain here in the last week.
Old 16 July 2009, 10:51 AM
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Really , my mam will be pleased , shes in Aude , well she will be back there in a few weeks anyway
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Our lawn was starting to get very brown but back to full greeness thanks to loads of rain.

Seems that we are copping some serious weather down here - almost monsoon-like at the moment.
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Weather really doesn't bother me. Some people get quite depressed with bad weather. Doesn't interest me in the slightest. My bro lives in Gibraltar and theres no way I would put up with that heat. Its flippin oppressive!

Very hot days to me just mean uncomfortable in work and I can't go into my loft and play with my choo choos.

I don't mind bad weather at all.
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
Just before the summer started, the media (such as the BBC & Daily Mail) were warning of a long-hot summer, where we would be out barbecuing the corpses of expired elderly relatives every evening. This coincided with a dry couple of weeks, which led rise to June being declared the driest for 3 years (remember how incredibly wet the last 2 were!!!).

As for the much reported heatwave that occurred during the second week of Wimbledon, I can confirm that much of the country missed out on that one. I had that week in South Devon on holiday: only a couple of days were nice with temperatures around 22°C and the TV weather map showed that the South East was 10°C hotter. Last week we were in Somerset and it barely breached 20°C with plenty of rain.

This week in Northamptonshire it has rained every day at some point and the 5 day forecast is for more rain everyday with temperatures of 16° - 20°C.

That's mid July for you.

The important factor seems to be our old friend the Gulf Stream. Apparently these previous long-range forecasts of hot dry weather were due to the fact that the GS had moved back up above the UK, which tends to leave us with fine weather. This week the BBC showed the Gulf Stream to have moved down below the UK which has left us with all this **** stuff just in time for the best part of summer.

Looks like 3 years of crap summers on the trot for us all then.

Gulf stream or jet stream ?
Old 16 July 2009, 11:05 AM
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dpb - it's the jet stream (high level air current) that's moved. If the Gulf Stream (warm sea current from Caribbean) moves, we'll REALLY know about it.
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Jet streams deffinitely lower than usual this time of year aiding and abetting any lows that might pop up ove the atlantic , thats all i know
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There's basically a conveyor belt of lows lined up in the Atlantic with no sign of a break for the foreseeable future. Oh well, at least it's not cold and the sea is now lovely and warm!
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Originally Posted by dpb
Force 6 SW last Sunday and yesterday - cant complain

Left it bit lat e yesterday and didnt get off the beach
where was that?
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Originally Posted by dpb
Gulf stream or jet stream ?
OK so I mixed up these two, sorry. Now I see what they mean by aviation being a central factor in climate change!

Gulfstream


Jetstream
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I think there maybe something to this global warming though - I mean, its definitely warmer than it was six months ago....


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