Rip-off Britain, part 5 billion and one!
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Just been to fill the Scoob with 98 octane, here in France. Apart from the fact that EVERY garage has it, from huge hypermarkets, to motorway services to even the tiniest one-pump small town supermarket, the price is the amazing thing.
95 octane, €1.25.4, (£1.13), 98 octane, €1,26.3.........so only €0,09 dearer, which, even with Gordon's puny pound, roughly works out at only 0.8p per litre![EEK!](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/eek.gif)
Makes Shell at 7p per litre, Total 97 octane at 9p per litre and even Tossco 99 octane at 5 or 6p per litre dearer look like a scam...........but surely, the petrol companies wouldn't do that...........would they? Not to us brits?![Ponder2](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/ponder2.gif)
And they apparently high price of petrol here? The Euro vs the £, again, it WOULD have been £0,75 p per litre when I bought this house, even two years ago it would have been only £0.94 per litre, with the then exchange rates.
And before any apologists come on here trying to mention refineries, cost of crude, delivery etc, remember that France refines crude, and delivers it MANY more miles than we do all for less money.
BTW: diesel here is €0.99,9, or about 90p per litre.
95 octane, €1.25.4, (£1.13), 98 octane, €1,26.3.........so only €0,09 dearer, which, even with Gordon's puny pound, roughly works out at only 0.8p per litre
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Makes Shell at 7p per litre, Total 97 octane at 9p per litre and even Tossco 99 octane at 5 or 6p per litre dearer look like a scam...........but surely, the petrol companies wouldn't do that...........would they? Not to us brits?
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And they apparently high price of petrol here? The Euro vs the £, again, it WOULD have been £0,75 p per litre when I bought this house, even two years ago it would have been only £0.94 per litre, with the then exchange rates.
And before any apologists come on here trying to mention refineries, cost of crude, delivery etc, remember that France refines crude, and delivers it MANY more miles than we do all for less money.
BTW: diesel here is €0.99,9, or about 90p per litre.
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I was reading a Tampa Bay online paper last week, it was saying that "gas" prices at the pumps had fallen everyday over there for the past 11 days.
So, as the £ is getting stronger against the Dollar, and price of a barrel of crude oil is set globally, how came we haven't seen any drop in prices?
It makes me so angry ( Copyright Steve Wright int he afternoon, circa 1985 )
So, as the £ is getting stronger against the Dollar, and price of a barrel of crude oil is set globally, how came we haven't seen any drop in prices?
It makes me so angry ( Copyright Steve Wright int he afternoon, circa 1985 )
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There is far worse planned including taxing you even more for driving to work, and then, if you dare park there.....Kerching$$$$£££££!!!!!!!! Join the ABD - lots of stuff coming up in Fighting For A Fair Deal for Motorists!!!
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Option 2: Remain bent over!![Wink](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Most of us have been been far too passive for far too long.
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Most of us have been been far too passive for far too long.
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There is far worse planned including taxing you even more for driving to work, and then, if you dare park there.....Kerching$$$$£££££!!!!!!!! Join the ABD - lots of stuff coming up in Fighting For A Fair Deal for Motorists!!!
Option 1: Get involved
Option 2: Remain bent over!![Wink](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Most of us have been been far too passive for far too long.
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Most of us have been been far too passive for far too long.
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Right! There are so many more shennanigans planned:
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If I had a coins tin I'd be rattling it!!!!
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If I had a coins tin I'd be rattling it!!!!
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I was reading a Tampa Bay online paper last week, it was saying that "gas" prices at the pumps had fallen everyday over there for the past 11 days.
So, as the £ is getting stronger against the Dollar, and price of a barrel of crude oil is set globally, how came we haven't seen any drop in prices?
It makes me so angry ( Copyright Steve Wright int he afternoon, circa 1985 )
So, as the £ is getting stronger against the Dollar, and price of a barrel of crude oil is set globally, how came we haven't seen any drop in prices?
It makes me so angry ( Copyright Steve Wright int he afternoon, circa 1985 )
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If you don't like it you can always leave.
Make some more room for people that really wont to be here. Most of Eastern Europe and ship loads of illegal immigrants.
Your in the minority anyway so the sooner you go the less Anglo-Saxons there'll be.
Make some more room for people that really wont to be here. Most of Eastern Europe and ship loads of illegal immigrants.
Your in the minority anyway so the sooner you go the less Anglo-Saxons there'll be.
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One or two of you are missing the point: NOT the PRICE of fuel; we all know that Lying Labour are screwing us into the ground with taxes on it.![Mad](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/mad.gif)
Look at the PRICE DIFFERENTIAL between 95 and 98 octane in the two countries.
Then ask yourself WHY, in the UK there is a 6-9 p difference, with NO extra tax, whereas in France it's 0.9p?
It can ONLY be those nice petrol companies who NEVER cheat us...............but always seem to post HUGE profits, and STILL have enough to do up their petrol stations every three years
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Look at the PRICE DIFFERENTIAL between 95 and 98 octane in the two countries.
Then ask yourself WHY, in the UK there is a 6-9 p difference, with NO extra tax, whereas in France it's 0.9p?
It can ONLY be those nice petrol companies who NEVER cheat us...............but always seem to post HUGE profits, and STILL have enough to do up their petrol stations every three years
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Heard something about it on the radio Nottingham are gonna be the first to introduce pay to park at work,didn't hear the full story but have found this article on it.
The country’s first “workplace parking levy” will come into force in Nottingham in 2012 and is likely to be adopted by other councils.
Under the scheme, any firm with 11 or more staff parking spaces will be charged £250 a year for each. That cost could rise to £350 within two years.
Employers would be free to pass the cost on to their staff. An estimated 40,000 commuters in Nottingham drive to work and some businesses have threatened to leave the area if the scheme is introduced.
Business associations oppose the extra cost, which has been put at more than £3 billion if it were rolled out nationwide. About 10 million people in Britain drive to work every day.
Councils in Milton Keynes, Exeter, Cambridge and Oxford have expressed interest in the scheme.
The Core Cities Group, which represents Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle and Sheffield, has also expressed interest, identifying the levy's “congestion-busting” potential.
The scheme will be endorsed by Sadiq Khan, the transport minister, during a visit to Nottingham on Friday.
The Government has explored a number of initiatives to cut urban traffic, pollution and carbon emissions.
It was forced to back away from a national pay-as-you-drive road pricing scheme because of public opposition but hoped to persuade cities to adopt local schemes such as congestion charging.
The AA described the latest scheme as a “tax on jobs”. “It is very unfair — discriminating against those employers who have parking spaces, which gets vehicles off the street,” said a spokesman.
“These tariffs apply around the clock, which is especially unfair on shift workers who rely on their cars because public transport is not available.
“This is more about generating a revenue stream than reducing congestion and will require snooping to enforce it properly.”
Nottingham believed that the levy would raise £100 million over the next decade, just under one fifth of the cost of a new urban tram scheme.
The British Chambers of Commerce gave warning that it could cost companies £3.4 billion a year if every English council followed Nottingham’s example.
Theresa Villiers, the Tory transport spokesman, accused the Government of hitting businesses with new taxes.
“At a time when jobs are under threat and businesses are under huge pressure, it is wrong to hit enterprise in Nottingham with a workplace parking levy,” she said. “These new charges will be a real blow to the city and we oppose them.”
However, the move was welcomed by environmental groups.
Richard Hebditch, of the Campaign for Better Transport, said the levy would raise money to invest in transport improvements.
“It has the added benefit of tackling unnecessary commuter journeys, one of the main causes of congestion,” he said. “Failing to deal with the causes of congestion is simply not an option.
“We put forward the idea of workplace parking levies as a fairer way to raise money to invest in the future of local transport services. We are pleased that the people of Nottingham will be the first to benefit.”
A Department for Transport spokesman said it was “entirely for local authorities to decide what measures are appropriate” for improving transport and tackling congestion in their area.
“Workplace parking levy schemes may be introduced only if they will contribute to the achievement of local transport policies, and all revenues must be reinvested in local transport,” he said.
Although the Department for Transport backed the application, it has imposed a two-year delay. It is understood that ministers felt that it would be wrong, in the current economic climate, to start the project next year as had been originally planned
The country’s first “workplace parking levy” will come into force in Nottingham in 2012 and is likely to be adopted by other councils.
Under the scheme, any firm with 11 or more staff parking spaces will be charged £250 a year for each. That cost could rise to £350 within two years.
Employers would be free to pass the cost on to their staff. An estimated 40,000 commuters in Nottingham drive to work and some businesses have threatened to leave the area if the scheme is introduced.
Business associations oppose the extra cost, which has been put at more than £3 billion if it were rolled out nationwide. About 10 million people in Britain drive to work every day.
Councils in Milton Keynes, Exeter, Cambridge and Oxford have expressed interest in the scheme.
The Core Cities Group, which represents Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Leeds, Liverpool, Newcastle and Sheffield, has also expressed interest, identifying the levy's “congestion-busting” potential.
The scheme will be endorsed by Sadiq Khan, the transport minister, during a visit to Nottingham on Friday.
The Government has explored a number of initiatives to cut urban traffic, pollution and carbon emissions.
It was forced to back away from a national pay-as-you-drive road pricing scheme because of public opposition but hoped to persuade cities to adopt local schemes such as congestion charging.
The AA described the latest scheme as a “tax on jobs”. “It is very unfair — discriminating against those employers who have parking spaces, which gets vehicles off the street,” said a spokesman.
“These tariffs apply around the clock, which is especially unfair on shift workers who rely on their cars because public transport is not available.
“This is more about generating a revenue stream than reducing congestion and will require snooping to enforce it properly.”
Nottingham believed that the levy would raise £100 million over the next decade, just under one fifth of the cost of a new urban tram scheme.
The British Chambers of Commerce gave warning that it could cost companies £3.4 billion a year if every English council followed Nottingham’s example.
Theresa Villiers, the Tory transport spokesman, accused the Government of hitting businesses with new taxes.
“At a time when jobs are under threat and businesses are under huge pressure, it is wrong to hit enterprise in Nottingham with a workplace parking levy,” she said. “These new charges will be a real blow to the city and we oppose them.”
However, the move was welcomed by environmental groups.
Richard Hebditch, of the Campaign for Better Transport, said the levy would raise money to invest in transport improvements.
“It has the added benefit of tackling unnecessary commuter journeys, one of the main causes of congestion,” he said. “Failing to deal with the causes of congestion is simply not an option.
“We put forward the idea of workplace parking levies as a fairer way to raise money to invest in the future of local transport services. We are pleased that the people of Nottingham will be the first to benefit.”
A Department for Transport spokesman said it was “entirely for local authorities to decide what measures are appropriate” for improving transport and tackling congestion in their area.
“Workplace parking levy schemes may be introduced only if they will contribute to the achievement of local transport policies, and all revenues must be reinvested in local transport,” he said.
Although the Department for Transport backed the application, it has imposed a two-year delay. It is understood that ministers felt that it would be wrong, in the current economic climate, to start the project next year as had been originally planned
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One or two of you are missing the point: NOT the PRICE of fuel; we all know that Lying Labour are screwing us into the ground with taxes on it.![Mad](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/mad.gif)
Look at the PRICE DIFFERENTIAL between 95 and 98 octane in the two countries.
Then ask yourself WHY, in the UK there is a 6-9 p difference, with NO extra tax, whereas in France it's 0.9p?
It can ONLY be those nice petrol companies who NEVER cheat us...............but always seem to post HUGE profits, and STILL have enough to do up their petrol stations every three years![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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Look at the PRICE DIFFERENTIAL between 95 and 98 octane in the two countries.
Then ask yourself WHY, in the UK there is a 6-9 p difference, with NO extra tax, whereas in France it's 0.9p?
It can ONLY be those nice petrol companies who NEVER cheat us...............but always seem to post HUGE profits, and STILL have enough to do up their petrol stations every three years
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Thing is they will charge what the market will wear. In th UK we are a pushover as we just pay. In other parts of the world the people just wouldn't pay it.
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It's a stupid "law" invented by tree-hugging council droids who probably get free parking smack bang in the middle of town anyway
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North Lincolnshire Council certainly do.![Frown](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/frown.gif)
As regards Nottingham, it doesn't surprise me. They were the first council to trial and use SPECS cameras, red light cameras, forward facing speed cameras, and wanted to be the first to trial the so called tailgating camera.![Cuckoo](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/cuckoo.gif)
And while all this was going on, they had the highest rate of street crime in the country, one of the highest rates of gun crime, the highest rate of robbery, one of the highest rates of rape, the highest rate of burglary, etc, etc, etc.![Mad](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/mad.gif)
Notts chief constable = ****.
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As regards Nottingham, it doesn't surprise me. They were the first council to trial and use SPECS cameras, red light cameras, forward facing speed cameras, and wanted to be the first to trial the so called tailgating camera.
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And while all this was going on, they had the highest rate of street crime in the country, one of the highest rates of gun crime, the highest rate of robbery, one of the highest rates of rape, the highest rate of burglary, etc, etc, etc.
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Notts chief constable = ****.
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