'Hero pilot' leaves BA amid smear allegations
07 August 2009, 03:12 PM
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It is always a problem when you have been involved in an incident of said magnitude.
Wether it went well or not, they tend to "invite" you to leave.......
Wether it went well or not, they tend to "invite" you to leave.......
07 August 2009, 07:50 PM
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Which means at the end of the day you have a temp job, and are waiting for the moment things go **** up............
Have your resumé ready, or consider changing area......
Have your resumé ready, or consider changing area......
07 August 2009, 10:14 PM
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TBH this does not in the least bit surprise me . . .
. . When I first entered the world of aviation, I entered for the pure passion of flying...But I guess soon enough you discover there is politics everywhere anytime money is involved....Right now I instruct and am used to the following things..
1) Bitching behind yr back
2) Gossip
3) Jealousy
4) Back stabbing
5) Snitching
6) Undignified bahaviour
....So my conclusion is just suck it up and continue living the dream, but never ever get involved with anyone...In the style of hello , nice to see you....Good bye
. . . . .These days, I know from first hand exparience, being an airman, means very very little to most people....I to the best of my ability, try to set a platinum standard and not deviate from it . . .
Best of luck to those guys!
. . When I first entered the world of aviation, I entered for the pure passion of flying...But I guess soon enough you discover there is politics everywhere anytime money is involved....Right now I instruct and am used to the following things..
1) Bitching behind yr back
2) Gossip
3) Jealousy
4) Back stabbing
5) Snitching
6) Undignified bahaviour
....So my conclusion is just suck it up and continue living the dream, but never ever get involved with anyone...In the style of hello , nice to see you....Good bye
. . . . .These days, I know from first hand exparience, being an airman, means very very little to most people....I to the best of my ability, try to set a platinum standard and not deviate from it . . .
Best of luck to those guys!
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08 August 2009, 03:06 PM
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Very disappointing to see this sort of thing. It is surprising how petty jealousy can have such a big effect on a man's career. I have seen that sort of thing happen in my line of work too.
It was reported that the 1st officer was flying the aircraft on the approach since it was his leg as the operating pilot anyway. When the emergency occurred, the Captain allowed the 1st officer to continue down the approach, this was sensible because he was qualified to fly the aircraft anyway. This allowed the Captain to concentrate on the problem and to try to sort the power out. When he realised that it was not recoverable he used the flaps which had been retracted to reduce drag to give just that bit of lift to get them over the perimeter fence as they were extended. This is an old trick which is often used in forced landings on lighter aircraft to get into a field with no engine. It shows he was thinking correctly and although it was not possible to reach the runway they were at least able to touch down (arrive) on the flat area before the runway. It was an inspired action all round and both pilots deserve full recognition for that.
Les
It was reported that the 1st officer was flying the aircraft on the approach since it was his leg as the operating pilot anyway. When the emergency occurred, the Captain allowed the 1st officer to continue down the approach, this was sensible because he was qualified to fly the aircraft anyway. This allowed the Captain to concentrate on the problem and to try to sort the power out. When he realised that it was not recoverable he used the flaps which had been retracted to reduce drag to give just that bit of lift to get them over the perimeter fence as they were extended. This is an old trick which is often used in forced landings on lighter aircraft to get into a field with no engine. It shows he was thinking correctly and although it was not possible to reach the runway they were at least able to touch down (arrive) on the flat area before the runway. It was an inspired action all round and both pilots deserve full recognition for that.
Les
09 August 2009, 02:13 PM
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Very disappointing to see this sort of thing. It is surprising how petty jealousy can have such a big effect on a man's career. I have seen that sort of thing happen in my line of work too.
It was reported that the 1st officer was flying the aircraft on the approach since it was his leg as the operating pilot anyway. When the emergency occurred, the Captain allowed the 1st officer to continue down the approach, this was sensible because he was qualified to fly the aircraft anyway. This allowed the Captain to concentrate on the problem and to try to sort the power out. When he realised that it was not recoverable he used the flaps which had been retracted to reduce drag to give just that bit of lift to get them over the perimeter fence as they were extended. This is an old trick which is often used in forced landings on lighter aircraft to get into a field with no engine. It shows he was thinking correctly and although it was not possible to reach the runway they were at least able to touch down (arrive) on the flat area before the runway. It was an inspired action all round and both pilots deserve full recognition for that.
Les
It was reported that the 1st officer was flying the aircraft on the approach since it was his leg as the operating pilot anyway. When the emergency occurred, the Captain allowed the 1st officer to continue down the approach, this was sensible because he was qualified to fly the aircraft anyway. This allowed the Captain to concentrate on the problem and to try to sort the power out. When he realised that it was not recoverable he used the flaps which had been retracted to reduce drag to give just that bit of lift to get them over the perimeter fence as they were extended. This is an old trick which is often used in forced landings on lighter aircraft to get into a field with no engine. It shows he was thinking correctly and although it was not possible to reach the runway they were at least able to touch down (arrive) on the flat area before the runway. It was an inspired action all round and both pilots deserve full recognition for that.
Les
This is yet more proof.
I gave up on pprune ages ago, it is too depressing and full of tossers, again another reflex of aviation as it is today.
09 August 2009, 02:13 PM
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TBH this does not in the least bit surprise me . . .
. . When I first entered the world of aviation, I entered for the pure passion of flying...But I guess soon enough you discover there is politics everywhere anytime money is involved....Right now I instruct and am used to the following things..
1) Bitching behind yr back
2) Gossip
3) Jealousy
4) Back stabbing
5) Snitching
6) Undignified bahaviour
....So my conclusion is just suck it up and continue living the dream, but never ever get involved with anyone...In the style of hello , nice to see you....Good bye
. . . . .These days, I know from first hand exparience, being an airman, means very very little to most people....I to the best of my ability, try to set a platinum standard and not deviate from it . . .
Best of luck to those guys!
. . When I first entered the world of aviation, I entered for the pure passion of flying...But I guess soon enough you discover there is politics everywhere anytime money is involved....Right now I instruct and am used to the following things..
1) Bitching behind yr back
2) Gossip
3) Jealousy
4) Back stabbing
5) Snitching
6) Undignified bahaviour
....So my conclusion is just suck it up and continue living the dream, but never ever get involved with anyone...In the style of hello , nice to see you....Good bye
. . . . .These days, I know from first hand exparience, being an airman, means very very little to most people....I to the best of my ability, try to set a platinum standard and not deviate from it . . .
Best of luck to those guys!
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10 August 2009, 12:28 PM
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The only bitching etc I saw was from people higher up the ladder who could not stand a bit of success demonstrated by squadron members.
I wonder if you would mind clarifying your post?
Les
10 August 2009, 12:52 PM
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I served on quite a few RAF Squadrons and never saw that sort of behaviour between members of any of those squadrons. All aircrew were part of a bunch who worked together to get the job done as well as possible.
The only bitching etc I saw was from people higher up the ladder who could not stand a bit of success demonstrated by squadron members.
I wonder if you would mind clarifying your post?
Les
The only bitching etc I saw was from people higher up the ladder who could not stand a bit of success demonstrated by squadron members.
I wonder if you would mind clarifying your post?
Les
Generally they are okay I guess (they being you front end lot..)
- there's only been the odd one who has attempted to have an opinion on things that they shouldn't have, The banter can get pretty close to the bone though.. 
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Aviation is a polished turd because of the way people act nowadays, and it is a shame!
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