Just been made redundant
24 August 2009, 08:48 AM
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Just been made redundant
It's been looming for weeks now but today we went into work and were handed our p45's. I'm glad it's over tbh I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders as I hated the bloody job.
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
24 August 2009, 09:35 AM
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The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong
, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
24 August 2009, 09:47 AM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend IT to anyone at the moment, unless I really, really, really, disliked them.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).
Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong
, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
I'm keeping my options open at the minute, most people have recommended going into a specialised area if I do go down that route though.
24 August 2009, 10:08 AM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend IT to anyone at the moment, unless I really, really, really, disliked them.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).
Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong
, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
Agree totally!
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24 August 2009, 10:31 AM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend IT to anyone at the moment, unless I really, really, really, disliked them.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).
Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong
, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
Just kidding but it's the reason I never contracted - the risk outweighs the reward for me.There is work for the techies out there but it has to be the right skill set: right now we're short of TAs with SOA experience. As for development and support it really is cheaper to sling 80-90% of it over to offshore delivery.
KoT - Best of luck mate with whatever you decide to do
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24 August 2009, 10:47 AM
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I honestly wouldn't recommend IT to anyone at the moment, unless I really, really, really, disliked them.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).
Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
The market has been rubbish for a few years and is the pits right now, along with everything else. A lot has been out-sourced and there are a lot of experienced people out there without work. It's generally not a nice environment in which to work either. It's high pressure with zero thanks and *everything* that goes wrong is your fault. When you're doing the job well and there are no problems, they wonder why they need you as nothing is going wrong
, and when there are problems everyone is baying for blood. You're constantly expected to perform miracles with no resources. When you do, they expect more next time and when it doesn't work out, well, that's your fault too! Plus everyone thinks their problem is far more important than anyone else's. Nobody wants to learn anything about IT or take any responsibility for their own work or system because that's your job, (seriously, if they delete a file accidentally and it wasn't backed up because they'd saved it locally rather than to a network drive, that'll be your fault too).Programming is a bit different and not something I've done, so I can't comment on that, but I'd honestly say avoid any type of support work or project work.
Unless IT is your dream job, playing with tech all day is your idea of heaven and you can ignore the (l)users and the fact you're treated like something they trod in, avoid.
p.s. Good luck KoT!
Last edited by Torquemada; 24 August 2009 at 10:48 AM.
24 August 2009, 12:24 PM
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I didn't realise how much the job was actually getting me down until I heard the news that I was getting laid off. Luckily I have no mortgage and only one child took contend with. 34 other also went today and some of them have massive mortgages and 4+ kids to feed my thoughts go out to them
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It's been looming for weeks now but today we went into work and were handed our p45's. I'm glad it's over tbh I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders as I hated the bloody job.
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
I hope you find something else suitable soon!
24 August 2009, 12:50 PM
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My sympathies. There have been redundancies at my place recently and IT have only just managed to avoid them, at least temporarily.
The current IT market is the worst I've seen in over 20 years, so I would seriously consider something else.
Because the banks (and other industries) got rid of so many IT people recently, there is a surplus of talent which has driven rates and salaries South. The few companies hiring IT staff are able to be quite demanding right now. Even in a years time you'll be competing with people who have many years of commercial IT experience.
As for which lager, surely White Lightning cider is the Jeremy Kyle watching drink of choice for the great unwashed...
The current IT market is the worst I've seen in over 20 years, so I would seriously consider something else.
Because the banks (and other industries) got rid of so many IT people recently, there is a surplus of talent which has driven rates and salaries South. The few companies hiring IT staff are able to be quite demanding right now. Even in a years time you'll be competing with people who have many years of commercial IT experience.
As for which lager, surely White Lightning cider is the Jeremy Kyle watching drink of choice for the great unwashed...
24 August 2009, 01:03 PM
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My sympathies. There have been redundancies at my place recently and IT have only just managed to avoid them, at least temporarily.
The current IT market is the worst I've seen in over 20 years, so I would seriously consider something else.
Because the banks (and other industries) got rid of so many IT people recently, there is a surplus of talent which has driven rates and salaries South. The few companies hiring IT staff are able to be quite demanding right now. Even in a years time you'll be competing with people who have many years of commercial IT experience.
As for which lager, surely White Lightning cider is the Jeremy Kyle watching drink of choice for the great unwashed...
The current IT market is the worst I've seen in over 20 years, so I would seriously consider something else.
Because the banks (and other industries) got rid of so many IT people recently, there is a surplus of talent which has driven rates and salaries South. The few companies hiring IT staff are able to be quite demanding right now. Even in a years time you'll be competing with people who have many years of commercial IT experience.
As for which lager, surely White Lightning cider is the Jeremy Kyle watching drink of choice for the great unwashed...
Cheers for the input, it's good to get info from people in the business and not all these companies trying to flog courses with "guaranteed" job opportunities of £40k a year at the end of them
sounds like someone has started early
24 August 2009, 01:08 PM
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Train as a Home Information Pack Assesor ... the housing market is about to explode, be in on the ground floor.
IT is old hat, has-been, and everyone realises that it is p155 easy to do ..... a monkey with a spanner can fix IT stuff these days
Good luck!
IT is old hat, has-been, and everyone realises that it is p155 easy to do ..... a monkey with a spanner can fix IT stuff these days
Good luck!
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It's been looming for weeks now but today we went into work and were handed our p45's. I'm glad it's over tbh I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders as I hated the bloody job.
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
Jeremy kyle is on at the minute what is the best lager to drink whilst watching? something like calsberg export? or maybe tenants super strength?
on a serious note though I have put in for a few jobs with south west water, which seem to be the only decent paying jobs around at the minute. And if I don't get them I am considering going back to college for 12 months to re train in IT
right back to Out Jeremy
You might get an apperance fee.
24 August 2009, 03:09 PM
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FWIW I've never held with the "them and us" view between permies and contractors. In whatever capacity I've been working on a site, I've been there to do a job and I've got on and done it to the best of my ability. Some contractors look down their noses at permies, and some permies can't stand contractors, but I could never be bothered with it all and just got on with it.
When I've been contracting I've had other contractors give me advice such as never document anything, because if they have documentation they don't need you any more. As far as I am concerned that's not doing the job properly, let alone as well as I can, so it's not advice I've ever acted upon. Perhaps I was an idiot for not milking it for all it was worth, but ultimately knowing I behaved reasonably was more important to me. And it never seemed to be a problem, in all honesty. My shortest stint as a contractor was 9 months, with several renewals, and most were a year or more.
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Sorry to hear your new, after been unemployed for 2 1/2 months and starting work today I know all the things you'll be going through over the foreseeable future, good luck and I hope you land a job soon.
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People just seriously have the wrong idea with IT! It's nothing like it once was, but the image of IT is that it's a goldmine. In reality it's extremely hard to break into a decent IT job now, and the last thing I would go for if i was retraining!