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Old 25 August 2009, 09:18 PM
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Mass fights outside West Ham's ground ..... Millwall are in town.

Old 25 August 2009, 10:07 PM
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I think it's time we had another war.
Old 25 August 2009, 10:08 PM
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Must be filming Football Factory 2
Old 25 August 2009, 10:15 PM
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We do, actually, need a war to get rid of the rubbish who infest our streets these days.
Old 25 August 2009, 10:41 PM
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1 person stabbed i heard

******, if they want to fight why dont they take up a contact sport. scumbags
Old 25 August 2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wrighty338
1 person stabbed i heard

******, if they want to fight why dont they take up a contact sport. scumbags
They probably view lobbing a brick into someone else's face as both contact, and sport Clearly there is no argument on the contact part, but I fail to see why they find it so entertaining to spark off a riot at a football match.
Old 25 August 2009, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
We do, actually, need a war to get rid of the rubbish who infest our streets these days.
Didn't I say that?
Old 25 August 2009, 11:05 PM
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Mass violence mars London derby


Fighting began around the stadium almost two hours before kick-off

A man has been stabbed in the chest during violence involving "hundreds" of fans outside West Ham's Upton Park stadium during a game with Millwall. Fights broke out at 1800 BST and were still raging four hours later. A 44-year-old man is stable after being stabbed in Priory Road at 2025 BST.
A Metropolitan Police spokesman said missiles had been thrown at officers but none were injured.
Inside Upton Park West Ham fans twice invaded the pitch.
The first invasion was after West Ham's equaliser, while the second more serious invasion happened after they scored a penalty.
It took officials about six minutes to clear about 50 people from the pitch and police had to redeploy within the stadium to tackle the invasion.
West Ham won the game 3-1 after extra time.
About 200 riot police and at least 20 mounted officers were at the ground and a police helicopter circled the area.
The Press Association quoted an unnamed 19-year-old saying he saw a police officer being kicked on the ground.
A spokesman added: "Hundreds of fans are estimated to be involved."

About 50 fans invaded the pitch after their team scored

One pub reportedly had its windows broken by bricks during running battles across several streets up to half a mile from the stadium.
Eyewitnesses told of hooligans trying to rip out bollards and lighting "small fires".
Five arrests have been confirmed, including one for affray and one for breaching a banning order.
British Transport Police said they heard reports of minor overcrowding at Upton Park Tube station.
BBC radio reporter Ben Jacobs, who is at the stadium, said he had heard a second person had been stabbed, although police said they had no confirmation of this.
Describing how the violence erupted, Mr Jacobs said: "The trouble broke out outside the Tube station about 600 yards from the ground.
"There were 500 to 1,000 riot police and Millwall fans managed to break through the divide."
'Bloodied faces'
A 29-year-old man had to close his kebab shop in nearby Green Street for two hours.
He said: "All hell broke loose - it was very frightening.
"Bottles and bricks were being thrown from the back and some were hitting West Ham fans at the front.
"There were loads of people with bloodied faces."
Aaron Smith, from Hemel Hempstead, who was at the game, said: "I saw one man cornered by at least a dozen Millwall fans before kick-off. Terrifying scenes."
Another fan said: "I was in a throng walking up and a group of hooligans came for us.
"The police wanted to help but they were clearly afraid to use force. I am still shaking. I thought I was going to die."
Ben Newton, from Harrow, north London, said his father had been stretchered away after being hit with a dart to the head.
And a Millwall fan told the BBC: "It was like a war zone outside the stadium. There was fighting all round.
"I brought my kids with me tonight and they've seen some violence that is indescribable."
Old 25 August 2009, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Didn't I say that?
You did, I was just agreeing with you
Old 25 August 2009, 11:41 PM
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Let them get on with it, it's a shame that Spurs weren't playing too, their fans could have had a few slaps too.
Old 25 August 2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by G00ner
Let them get on with it, it's a shame that Spurs weren't playing too, their fans could have had a few slaps too.
Old 26 August 2009, 07:10 AM
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This is what you get when there are to many indigenous caucasians in one place.
Me thinks they need more multicultural policy in this area
Old 26 August 2009, 08:00 AM
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Drunken ***** from East London fighting with drunken ***** from Sarf Landan, over two teams of overpaid footballers, most of whom have no natural association with any part of London whatsoever. Well done, lads.
Old 26 August 2009, 08:23 AM
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Spot on Telboy !

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Old 26 August 2009, 08:31 AM
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And the really unfathomable thing, is that many of those louts will have sympathies with groups such as the BNP, but put a blue and claret shirt on a black guy, and they're prepared to shed blood in their name. Underclass scum.
Old 26 August 2009, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Drunken ***** from East London fighting with drunken ***** from Sarf Landan, over two teams of overpaid footballers, most of whom have no natural association with any part of London whatsoever. Well done, lads.
Spot on.

The mentality of some football fans never ceases to amaze me. No other sport attracts this sort of moron thankfully hence why I stay well away from it.
Old 26 August 2009, 09:12 AM
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Millwall scumbags

Oh well at least we showed them who's boss on the pitch
Old 26 August 2009, 09:12 AM
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2 sets of fans want a scrap, police should let them get on with it i say
Old 26 August 2009, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Drunken ***** from East London fighting with drunken ***** from Sarf Landan, over two teams of overpaid footballers, most of whom have no natural association with any part of London whatsoever. Well done, lads.
+1
Old 26 August 2009, 09:58 AM
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lol I am with Telboy

Football is crap anyway
Old 26 August 2009, 10:02 AM
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I just heard an amuzing phrase used on the radio about this... claiming that "rival home fans" as well as the fans of the visiting team.
In house fighting, that just about says it all really.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Spot on.

The mentality of some football fans never ceases to amaze me. No other sport attracts this sort of moron thankfully hence why I stay well away from it.
In Rugby they leave the fighting to the players

That game last night should have been moved to a weekend and been an early kickoff.
Old 26 August 2009, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
That game last night should have been moved to a weekend and been an early kickoff.
If a game needs moving to avoid crowd trouble then the sport needs a serious coat of looking at. Frankly it's pathetic and if I had my way both clubs would be banned for the rest of the season.
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It's called minimizing risk. You cant be so naive as to think something so tribal as football wont have any troubles with rival fans. I love football but don't get the fan v fan hatred but it exists.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
It's called minimizing risk. You cant be so naive as to think something so tribal as football wont have any troubles with rival fans. I love football but don't get the fan v fan hatred but it exists.
Me naive???? Surely you can't be so naive as to not accept that football doesn't need to be tribal at all? Saying it's tribal is just making an excuse for the violent morons who follow it. Why can't it be like any other sport where you support a team but you don't need to fight about it.

Was in Melbourne in March and watched the opening game of the AFL season. 86000 avid AFL fans all sitting non-segregated with alcohol for sale everywhere inside the stadium and not one iota of trouble.

The way the sport is treated is the problem. As long as it is acceptable to behave the way a lot of so called fans behave then it will only continue. You only have to read some of the football threads in the Sports section here to realise what you are dealing with.
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Stamp out players getting gobby with the referees. Eradicate it totally. I bet you'd see beneficial ramifications.
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Oh and spitting. Get rid of the gratuitous spitting. Disgusting in the extreme.
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What on earth is the reason for getting into a fight like that? What are they trying to prove? Surely its better to just watch the match and get the value out of the large sums the tickets must have cost.

There is something seriously wrong with general attitudes these days if that is how they feel they have to behave. Its really bad when they start with the broken bottles and start pulling knives out.

I also agree that a lot of it must come from the demonstrated behaviour of the players. If they argue in any way with the ref they should sent off immediately. All these professional fouls and diving should also be heavily dealt with. Just makes people think that the onle way to success is to cheat as hard as they can!

All that obscene money that the players get must make them feel so important that they can do what they want. Not a good example to their fans.

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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Stamp out players getting gobby with the referees. Eradicate it totally. I bet you'd see beneficial ramifications.
Yes that's going to stop thugs having a tear up. Football has it's ill and it's trying to combat them. There are hundreds of games every week with fans attending in their thousands and you get trouble maybe once a year. Football has done a lot to clean up it's act. It's not perfect by any means.

Personally I cant take any bloke seriously who doesn't like football.... something odd about them
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Oh and spitting. Get rid of the gratuitous spitting. Disgusting in the extreme.
People playing sport will spit from time to time. If it's at another player then I agree it's disgusting but if it's to clear your nose or throat when else you to do? Get out a handkerchief?


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