The Zohan

Dear Martin, further to our exchange yesterday you stated that the UK had the £worse benefits system in Europe and hardly an attraction£.

I did ask for proof of this as I for one do not believe this although i am happy to be proved wrong.

Please, please enlighten a, DM reading, fascist div (me)

nick172sport

iTrader: (6)

nice mr habgood

cster

Please allow me to answer this one on Martin's behalf,

what would scooby do

fur king oar sum do dew fur king rue la chew chew bing. a sever.

The Zohan

^^^^LOL!

Oh and finally, Martin - have you complained to the webmaster about KoT's biased moderation yet?

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

worst befefits system in europe does this guy actually live in the uk or on another planet LMFAO as i recall abu hamza was given a converted top of the range ford galaxy because he only had one hand and needed a large car for all his kids .. also we the taxpayer paid for his local council to rent a 500grand house for him on housing benefit , it dont get much better than that .

Tam the bam

belliott69

iTrader: (3)

i wish i lived in france where apparently the benefits are better obviously from martins view, funny how alot of immigrants missed that and ended up here instead isn't it.

Will

And here is a pic of Martin. He's the one on the right

PaulC72

I think we probably have one of the worse benefits systems in Europe too..








if you are an English /Scot man /Welsh (to appease all) sheep trying to claim any money after working all your life...everyone else well they are given everything, especially imigrants.

nick172sport

iTrader: (6)

quality mr impreza hows them sheep

ronjeramy

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PMSL

Tam the bam

Here he is giving some wood err some wood!

Tam the bam

Sore no doubt!

richiewong

Is that Scoobywon't on the left?

D4VEW557

i mossed this arguement but i agree that the benefit system in this country is ****

for people who were born here have been educated here and who have been stupid enough to get a job here

RA Dunk

lol dont know how theres been so bloody much of them, just mention politics and martin appears from nowhere

hodgy0_2

is it your assumption that the UK receives the majority of the world’s refugees/asylum seekers -- or Europe’s? for that matter

do we get more asylum seekers than France or Germany? (in the last 20,10,5 years)

would your argument hold so true if Germany or even France had most refugees?

These figures must be fairly well known, can’t be that difficult to find out

Trout

iTrader: (1)

Paul - if you are struggling to work out your benefits and Martin is not able to help you there is an online calculator here you can use...

Benefits? Moi?!

Martin2005

What the hell is this???

Paul I'm not going to play your game, the number are there and quite clear. Rather than asking me questions why not back up some of your own assertions.

I note that you didn't respond to my questions, but again I guess that different?


Oh and thanks for this, I really appreciate all the BS, nice one Pal

The Zohan

Humour me, please point me in the right diection of these 'numbers' Martin you could silence me and any other critics so easily...

Oh and Martin, it is just SN, not the real world or of any significance. I seem to remember you told me to lie down in a dark room as i was having a turn last night I did and it worked

The Zohan

When i tried to claim JSA some 3 years ago i was not entitled to
Paid in since 1980-2002 without a break, went self employed, paid my stamp and because i was self employed for a certian period of time i was not entitled to JSA - maybe Martin is right...maybe i just proved it to myself LOL!

Martin2005

Paul you could of PM'd me on this, you didn't you wanted to endulge silly fvcking games and play to the crowd

I'm actually quite shocked at you doing this

The Zohan

I only asked a question, others have added to this, what exactly do you feel i have done except ask a question.

Look if you feel aggreved then fine, i will PM you as i am genuinely interested in the answer and happy to be corrected.

This is not like you to take it to heart, you usually come back with equal or more gusto - no offence meant at all

BTW the last PM i sent you you did not reply to, even though it was to your benefit.

Martin2005

Good well if you've had a think about it maybe you can explain what the hell you were going on about last night?

The Zohan

I think we where slightly at cross purposes, the joy of non verbal communication

either that or i had been caning the crack pipe a bit too much...

Trout

iTrader: (1)

If you use Net Replacement Rate (a measure that may be flawed but is commonly used) to compare unemployment benefits across a variety of countries - according to the most recently available comparative I could find the UK did indeed fare very badly.

The NRR - or the amount of money you could expect in benefits was on average 54% of wages.

Most countries in Europe had NRRs of between 60-75%.

This is using data from the OECD. The UK was amongst the very lowest with only Korea, Australia, Ireland and Hungary below us in the league table.

Over the past couple of years, other European countries have tightened this as unemployement has risen. In this period it would seem that the UK has risen up the league table, not by paying any more (it is pretty much unchanged) but other countries have cut back more quickly.

Not very exciting stuff by Daily Mail standards. Hard to spin this one.

Martin2005

There's a wealth of economic statistics on the OECD website, lots and lots of detail on Social Security and Welfare across the EU and beyond. I'm not posting this stuff up because as you'll see it's a bloody nightmare to extract or link to.

Martin2005

Oh and was this necessary too?

On one hand you PM on the other you play to the crowd, aren't you better than that?

madscoob

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its all very well rattling on about what the goverment put in your pocket in the form of cash each week , its the added bonuses that make it up//
free school meals
free school transport
housing benefit
council tax benefit
free cars if you happen to of blown a hand off
free perscriptions
THE LIST GOES ON PEOPLE
free suits to attend a interview
free transport to hospital
free car parking when there
DO I NEED TO GO ON FOR GODS SAKE WAKE UP MAN DO YOUR RESEARCH