20 tax payers to pay for this single mother and family
14 December 2009, 08:47 AM
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20 tax payers to pay for this single mother and family
8 kids single mother - why don't she keep her legs together and save the ever suffering tax payer .The UK has gone crazy , little hope if this nonesense is allowed to continue
Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
14 December 2009, 09:32 AM
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There should be no benefits for people who have more than 2 kids. Full benefits for one, half for the second. Third "mistake" and there is no help. That will see a lot of the scroungers change their habits 
14 December 2009, 09:52 AM
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looks like we need to get back to that old fashoned idea of parents bringing up their children and teaching them the importance of responsibility and thought for others amongst all those other good things we used to be told about as children.
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14 December 2009, 10:25 AM
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). Isn't that the French system?No advantages in getting a house for single mums either. And apparently ickle, wickle, little girlies can now get the pill without prescription as well ???? WTF!?
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14 December 2009, 10:37 AM
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Miss Walker insisted: 'I'm the product of a failed society. My family failed me, the council failed me and I failed myself. I should not have married and got pregnant at 17.
'On the other hand, I've never
Read more: Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
No dear , youve exploited the situation to the full ! , even becoming a muslim
and the rest of us are your victims
'On the other hand, I've never
Read more: Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
No dear , youve exploited the situation to the full ! , even becoming a muslim
and the rest of us are your victims
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14 December 2009, 11:22 AM
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14 December 2009, 11:23 AM
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But some families (genuine family) do rely on that income as a little boost
I remember when my first son was born near 20 years ago, that allowance covered some fundamental items.
But I don't believe child benefit is the real issue here
Its the bizzarre fact that the government are renting mansions for these people.
AND why does it seem that its always "foreigners".
It is because of our namby pamby society today?
I remember when my first son was born near 20 years ago, that allowance covered some fundamental items.
But I don't believe child benefit is the real issue here
Its the bizzarre fact that the government are renting mansions for these people.
AND why does it seem that its always "foreigners".
It is because of our namby pamby society today?
14 December 2009, 11:40 AM
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But some families (genuine family) do rely on that income as a little boost
I remember when my first son was born near 20 years ago, that allowance covered some fundamental items.
But I don't believe child benefit is the real issue here
Its the bizzarre fact that the government are renting mansions for these people.
AND why does it seem that its always "foreigners".
It is because of our namby pamby society today?
I remember when my first son was born near 20 years ago, that allowance covered some fundamental items.
But I don't believe child benefit is the real issue here
Its the bizzarre fact that the government are renting mansions for these people.
AND why does it seem that its always "foreigners".
It is because of our namby pamby society today?
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the actual point is, council tenants have the right to buy the house/home they live in. the capital receipts of which go to central govt coffers and not to the local authority that built and borrowed money to build them.
only good houses ever tend to get bought, at massive discounts.
the result- housing stocks of family housing in prime areas, i.e across the 33 london boroughs are non existent.
the housing act means councils have no choice but to use private rented accomm, which of course is let at the market level.
that lady wil be able to stay there forever, moving from private rented to private rented.
she stands out because of the nationality and amount of children- to yr average moronic daily mail reader..............
the reality is she'll not even dint the expenditure of councils supporting the mass of white, English unemployed on our estates who never bother working.
only good houses ever tend to get bought, at massive discounts.
the result- housing stocks of family housing in prime areas, i.e across the 33 london boroughs are non existent.
the housing act means councils have no choice but to use private rented accomm, which of course is let at the market level.
that lady wil be able to stay there forever, moving from private rented to private rented.
she stands out because of the nationality and amount of children- to yr average moronic daily mail reader..............
the reality is she'll not even dint the expenditure of councils supporting the mass of white, English unemployed on our estates who never bother working.
14 December 2009, 11:55 AM
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the actual point is, council tenants have the right to buy the house/home they live in. the capital receipts of which go to central govt coffers and not to the local authority that built and borrowed money to build them.
only good houses ever tend to get bought, at massive discounts.
the result- housing stocks of family housing in prime areas, i.e across the 33 london boroughs are non existent.
the housing act means councils have no choice but to use private rented accomm, which of course is let at the market level.
that lady wil be able to stay there forever, moving from private rented to private rented.
she stands out because of the nationality and amount of children- to yr average moronic daily mail reader..............
the reality is she'll not even dint the expenditure of councils supporting the mass of white, English unemployed on our estates who never bother working.
only good houses ever tend to get bought, at massive discounts.
the result- housing stocks of family housing in prime areas, i.e across the 33 london boroughs are non existent.
the housing act means councils have no choice but to use private rented accomm, which of course is let at the market level.
that lady wil be able to stay there forever, moving from private rented to private rented.
she stands out because of the nationality and amount of children- to yr average moronic daily mail reader..............
the reality is she'll not even dint the expenditure of councils supporting the mass of white, English unemployed on our estates who never bother working.
Not so massive anymore though, I was looking at buying my nans flat for her earlier in the year, just wasn't worth it.
I didn't know that the money went to central government though, that seems a little silly.
14 December 2009, 12:09 PM
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Yep thats our great democrazy - anywhere else in the world she'd be living ten a room under a corrugated roof , cos she lives in nottiong hill , she gets a mansion
14 December 2009, 12:11 PM
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I still don't think child benefit is the problem though - even thats on a sliding scale?
Its what goes with it surely
Mrs whatever her name in the 2.6million mansion along with housing benefit probably gets all thats going.
I'm sure she's read the rules very carefully
14 December 2009, 12:30 PM
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Should we give money to couples without kids instead, all the ones I know seem to do ok without a few extra quid from the government, if as a couple of two able and industrious people you cant make enough to support yourself then something is wrong.
Child Benefit does go down from £20 for the first to £13 for the second and subsequent per week, doesnt go very far towards the actual cost of supporting a child, we have three boys and we get £185 a month and even being on a fairly decent wage it still comes in handy and I would miss it if it wasnt there, my wife doesnt work apart from some occasional sewing to look after them so we lose one wage, we know where ours are all the time, they are well fed, clothed and get to do stuff I didnt as a kid. Ours also go to private school so that saves three places at a state school at great expense to us (and my inlaws) so £185 back isnt too much to ask is it ?
Kids chew through money, School Trips, Christmas, Birthdays, Clothes, Books, Transport and the extra space to house them, bigger car to cart them around and I know it was our choice* but somebody has to and childless Daily Mail readers moaning about the few extra quid we get from (back from the 15 grand tax and NI I pay) seems a bit mean spirited.
Ok it varies from case to case and my take on the situation is that a lot of the time, the wrong people are breeding, its ok if like us you can (kind of) afford to have one partner not working or afford childcare but there are a lot of couples that want kids but arent in a position to, I say just do it as the underclass bloody do, like the woman in the OP's post not contributing and getting everything paid for, nothing to do with her race but really there should be some contribution, perhaps there is payback later if her kids end up as doctors, nurses or whatever but I think a lot of the scum types just breed more benefit hoovers.
*Mainly my wife's idea, I was just grateful for the ****
14 December 2009, 12:37 PM
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8 kids single mother - why don't she keep her legs together and save the ever suffering tax payer .The UK has gone crazy , little hope if this nonesense is allowed to continue
Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
Single mother of eight living in a £2.6m mansion - so much for Labour's housing benefit crackdown | Mail Online
14 December 2009, 12:55 PM
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Why, seems a little unfair, it isnt that much money and kids cost a lot of money to bring up, if nobody had kids because they couldnt afford to then the population (already aging) would end up entierely made up of pensioners.
Should we give money to couples without kids instead, all the ones I know seem to do ok without a few extra quid from the government, if as a couple of two able and industrious people you cant make enough to support yourself then something is wrong.
Child Benefit does go down from £20 for the first to £13 for the second and subsequent per week, doesnt go very far towards the actual cost of supporting a child, we have three boys and we get £185 a month and even being on a fairly decent wage it still comes in handy and I would miss it if it wasnt there, my wife doesnt work apart from some occasional sewing to look after them so we lose one wage, we know where ours are all the time, they are well fed, clothed and get to do stuff I didnt as a kid. Ours also go to private school so that saves three places at a state school at great expense to us (and my inlaws) so £185 back isnt too much to ask is it ?
Kids chew through money, School Trips, Christmas, Birthdays, Clothes, Books, Transport and the extra space to house them, bigger car to cart them around and I know it was our choice* but somebody has to and childless Daily Mail readers moaning about the few extra quid we get from (back from the 15 grand tax and NI I pay) seems a bit mean spirited.
Ok it varies from case to case and my take on the situation is that a lot of the time, the wrong people are breeding, its ok if like us you can (kind of) afford to have one partner not working or afford childcare but there are a lot of couples that want kids but arent in a position to, I say just do it as the underclass bloody do, like the woman in the OP's post not contributing and getting everything paid for, nothing to do with her race but really there should be some contribution, perhaps there is payback later if her kids end up as doctors, nurses or whatever but I think a lot of the scum types just breed more benefit hoovers.
*Mainly my wife's idea, I was just grateful for the ****
Should we give money to couples without kids instead, all the ones I know seem to do ok without a few extra quid from the government, if as a couple of two able and industrious people you cant make enough to support yourself then something is wrong.
Child Benefit does go down from £20 for the first to £13 for the second and subsequent per week, doesnt go very far towards the actual cost of supporting a child, we have three boys and we get £185 a month and even being on a fairly decent wage it still comes in handy and I would miss it if it wasnt there, my wife doesnt work apart from some occasional sewing to look after them so we lose one wage, we know where ours are all the time, they are well fed, clothed and get to do stuff I didnt as a kid. Ours also go to private school so that saves three places at a state school at great expense to us (and my inlaws) so £185 back isnt too much to ask is it ?
Kids chew through money, School Trips, Christmas, Birthdays, Clothes, Books, Transport and the extra space to house them, bigger car to cart them around and I know it was our choice* but somebody has to and childless Daily Mail readers moaning about the few extra quid we get from (back from the 15 grand tax and NI I pay) seems a bit mean spirited.
Ok it varies from case to case and my take on the situation is that a lot of the time, the wrong people are breeding, its ok if like us you can (kind of) afford to have one partner not working or afford childcare but there are a lot of couples that want kids but arent in a position to, I say just do it as the underclass bloody do, like the woman in the OP's post not contributing and getting everything paid for, nothing to do with her race but really there should be some contribution, perhaps there is payback later if her kids end up as doctors, nurses or whatever but I think a lot of the scum types just breed more benefit hoovers.
*Mainly my wife's idea, I was just grateful for the ****
...If,if,if all of these CB payments were withdrawn, then in theory we should have to pay less tax (
), increasing your income to compensate for any loss you would have made in the first place by forfeiting CB.
14 December 2009, 01:55 PM
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I live in a 2up 2down, I'm in debt and danger and have worked full time since i was 16 and after paying all my insurance schemes/payment protection etc when i did hit a bad patch the system didn't care and I got **** all squared help. ALSO because the system is so amazing and most of the jobs I would like to apply aren't open to me because I haven't been on long term unemployment or just plainly because i'm the wrong religion, i have signed my soul back to the devil so i can scrape by for another few months!
My sister lives in a open planned apparent approx 2 times the floor space of my own home, she has never held a full time job and is a single parent. Has Sky TV, could afford to buy a new top of the range laptop last year and has been asking advice on a home setup and is able to go out on the lash on a Saturday night.
The system works!
My sister lives in a open planned apparent approx 2 times the floor space of my own home, she has never held a full time job and is a single parent. Has Sky TV, could afford to buy a new top of the range laptop last year and has been asking advice on a home setup and is able to go out on the lash on a Saturday night.
The system works!
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14 December 2009, 02:17 PM
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I live in a 2up 2down, I'm in debt and danger and have worked full time since i was 16 and after paying all my insurance schemes/payment protection etc when i did hit a bad patch the system didn't care and I got **** all squared help. ALSO because the system is so amazing and most of the jobs I would like to apply aren't open to me because I haven't been on long term unemployment or just plainly because i'm the wrong religion, i have signed my soul back to the devil so i can scrape by for another few months!
My sister lives in a open planned apparent approx 2 times the floor space of my own home, she has never held a full time job and is a single parent. Has Sky TV, could afford to buy a new top of the range laptop last year and has been asking advice on a home setup and is able to go out on the lash on a Saturday night.
The system works!
My sister lives in a open planned apparent approx 2 times the floor space of my own home, she has never held a full time job and is a single parent. Has Sky TV, could afford to buy a new top of the range laptop last year and has been asking advice on a home setup and is able to go out on the lash on a Saturday night.
The system works!
If you have something - but just a little something, the state is determined to take it.
If you have something - too much of something, you don't care what the state does.
The beauty of the system is when you have f*ck all - then its handed to you on a plate.
14 December 2009, 02:31 PM
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Pretty much the state of affairs TBH.
If you have something - but just a little something, the state is determined to take it.
If you have something - too much of something, you don't care what the state does.
The beauty of the system is when you have f*ck all - then its handed to you on a plate.
If you have something - but just a little something, the state is determined to take it.
If you have something - too much of something, you don't care what the state does.
The beauty of the system is when you have f*ck all - then its handed to you on a plate.
Thats actually a very good summary of how it is.
I remember years ago the firm I worked for went bust and I was earning a pretty good wage with them too.
I remember the day it happened, big announcement - blah blah blah, you're getting no money blah blah blah now everybody **** off
As that time my wife wasn't a big earner and we also had a son about 8 months old.
I was devastated - went to my insurers over loss of earnings
They said - **** off and come back after 1 month.
I went to my bank, I said you collect mortgage from my mortgage protection scheme.
They said - **** off, we don't pay until after 90 days.
Went to the dole office pretty much begging, I distinctly remember a load of questions
What do you have in savings, what's your wife got in savings.
Are you actively looking for work and can you prove it.
Ba$tards the whole lot - I got **** all for 2 weeks, then minimal.
Bank screaming - Where our money - £25 bounced payment fee
I remember having 5 DD's being rejected and the ****** taking £125 off me
I remember desperately hunting for a new job
I had 2 part time jobs in between looking
I went and drove a milk van from 1am until 6am, got home in time for wife to go to work
Had another part time evening job for 4 hours - 7pm to 11pm
Back home for a little sleep and starting again.
No one helped me when I desperately needed it
Yet, I knew people who didn't work
They had new cars, ate out went to the pub and seemingly wanted for nothing and I couldn't understand
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14 December 2009, 02:39 PM
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the law was changed this year- maybe last, to basically stop people profiting for the very reason you were going to buy her flat.
also there are caveats which mean people have to pay back discounts if they sell in a period.
its the market economy- a flat on some awful council estate in london is going to be well worth buying, ditto a house.
its the property out of london which isn't.
I do agree with a tnt, who has paid their rent, having the right to own their own home- its just mental the govt didn't allow receipts to go back to the councils to replace them.
14 December 2009, 02:48 PM
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I don't have any such insurances anymore as I don't trust them
Another example of ******* shafting you.
About 5 years ago my wife took seriously ill with a very freak medical condition affecting the spinal cord
This resulted in 8 months in hospital.
Did her critical illness cover pay out some money - did it ****
And they only paid income protection after a major fight.
Basically I went and "talked" with the ba$tard that sold me it.
I suggested he sort something out quickly before he got "hurt"
Pretty much every year they get her to fill out a form clearly trying to find somethign to wriggle out of it.
Another example of ******* shafting you.
About 5 years ago my wife took seriously ill with a very freak medical condition affecting the spinal cord
This resulted in 8 months in hospital.
Did her critical illness cover pay out some money - did it ****
And they only paid income protection after a major fight.
Basically I went and "talked" with the ba$tard that sold me it.
I suggested he sort something out quickly before he got "hurt"
Pretty much every year they get her to fill out a form clearly trying to find somethign to wriggle out of it.
14 December 2009, 03:53 PM
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Reality of Socialism.
Reward failure and punish success in order to do so.
What else can one expect from our system?
Good luck to her you might as well say. (That is what we used to say to people who got rich, before we became jealous of them).
ps lovely gaff
Reward failure and punish success in order to do so.
What else can one expect from our system?
Good luck to her you might as well say. (That is what we used to say to people who got rich, before we became jealous of them).
ps lovely gaff
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