Boycotting Cadbury's & Kraft products?
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Boycotting Cadbury's & Kraft products?
Anyone else thing of not buying their products now?
During take over talks, they promised to keep UK factories open. Announced today that Kraft are now closing one of the uk plants to move production to Poland.
Yet another great British company sold to a foreign owner, who's borrowed far to much to buy, and now slashing jobs to cut costs.
Seriously thinking of now buying anymore of their products. Sahme, as they produce some of the nicest chocolate bars. Oh well.
During take over talks, they promised to keep UK factories open. Announced today that Kraft are now closing one of the uk plants to move production to Poland.
Yet another great British company sold to a foreign owner, who's borrowed far to much to buy, and now slashing jobs to cut costs.
Seriously thinking of now buying anymore of their products. Sahme, as they produce some of the nicest chocolate bars. Oh well.
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Good plan - lets start a viral boycot, then they may have to close more UK plants as sales fall
All that's going to do is hurt UK employees.
Sometimes I really wonder whether people think these things through
All that's going to do is hurt UK employees.
Sometimes I really wonder whether people think these things through
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I understand the sentiment here, but ultimately the Cadbury's shareholders are to blame as they accepted the offer from Kraft. One comment I read from a shareholder; "business is business" - not a lot you can say to that really, is there?
I prefer Galaxy chocolate, but I suspect that if they change the taste of Cadbury's they will lose sales anyway. I guess it would be possible that different ingredients might be used if they're shifting production to Poland, so the taste could change. Also, if they make it taste like American chocolate they'll go out of business in a week as it's disgusting.
I prefer Galaxy chocolate, but I suspect that if they change the taste of Cadbury's they will lose sales anyway. I guess it would be possible that different ingredients might be used if they're shifting production to Poland, so the taste could change. Also, if they make it taste like American chocolate they'll go out of business in a week as it's disgusting.
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Think IIRC you will find that Cadbury's planned to shut the plant before the takeover and Kraft said they would keep it open.
Obviously not to be now tho
Obviously not to be now tho
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As others have siad. This plant has been wound down since 2007 as it was always scheduled to close this year. That said, the twaddle about "we didn't realise how far along the plans were" is utter rubbish. They'd have been better off not saying anything and just being honest about it.
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As above, business is business. If 400 UK jobs have to go to keep the rest of them, so be it. Cadburys had already invested £100m into the Poland plant, so don't blame Kraft for that one. The ball had already been rolled.
And as for 'boycotting'.......
And as for 'boycotting'.......
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Regardless of the boycotting (which won't work anyway)
Its inevitable that when companies are taken over there will be job losses - thats just business.
The really sad thing is when the people stand up and say shyte like we've no plans for X or Y
But then a short time later - bang, reality strikes and workers go to be either replaced with existing staff or lower paid employees
Its inevitable that when companies are taken over there will be job losses - thats just business.
The really sad thing is when the people stand up and say shyte like we've no plans for X or Y
But then a short time later - bang, reality strikes and workers go to be either replaced with existing staff or lower paid employees
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As said above, kraft never promised to keep that uk factory open they merely said they would look into it. My other half is a regional supply manager for Cadburys and at the moment even they are kept in the dark and have found most of the info from on tv.
on the cheap company shop front...large dairy milk bars for 20p is ace :-)
on the cheap company shop front...large dairy milk bars for 20p is ace :-)
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hopefully Kraft won't put peanut butter into everything, I like peanut butter but just not in every choccy bar
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It can't be hard making a bit of chocolate. Why don't the old Cadburys' employees put their heads together, get hold of a venture capitalist and make an alternative range of bars which is obviously a Cadbury's clone but doesn't break any copy write deal that Kraft will have put in place. Lots of UK sympathy so it might just work?
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I've been working on equipment already installed, and destined to be installed, in the new Polish plant for the last 24 months. Somerdale was already slated for closure then, how exactly that can be laid at Kraft's door I'm not sure
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Justice would be to form a syndicate, and buy out all of Kraft's shares to get majority control...then shut down all of their plastic cheese factories in the US.
Although you'd have to be pretty dippy to go and buy shares with that intention. Then again, Kraft just went and did it....
(TBH, I've always preferred the taste of Nestlé chocolate over Cadbury...even if they are only down the road)
Although you'd have to be pretty dippy to go and buy shares with that intention. Then again, Kraft just went and did it....
(TBH, I've always preferred the taste of Nestlé chocolate over Cadbury...even if they are only down the road)
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But the fact that the fate of Somerdale was decided long before the Kraft buyout has obviously escaped your notice
Even though it has already been mentioned by myself and others on this very thread
But the fact that the fate of Somerdale was decided long before the Kraft buyout has obviously escaped your notice
Even though it has already been mentioned by myself and others on this very thread
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On the earlier question of taste
I had an interesting chat with a guy from Premier Foods who was down here (Oz) looking for products they could sell in the UK, I said to him whatever you do dont take any of the chocolate home it tastes bloody awful.
Cadbury do a multitude of 200g bars including the 70's classic with various fondant fruit centres known as the Snack and a Rocky Road (this has so much crap in it you just dont get to taste the foul chocolate)
So my assumption was due to the heat here they placed preservatives in the chocolate to stop it from melting thus giving it the awful taste, he informed me this was partly the reason but the main reason was the grass, the land the cows eat from is very different from that of an English cow that gets to eat lush green grass from very fertile land, whereas down here the grass is not as lush and the ground not as fertile which has an affect on the milk when making chocolate.
That said the milk tastes no different to back home.
I reckon the Polish version should be OK, hardly an arid country.
I have my choccy mailed over every now and then, I'm down to my last Picnic (which is under lock and key in the fridge until the expiry date!!), if anyone is feeling public spirited and wants to send me more supplies feel free
Funnily enough my local super market has started selling Wispa Gold and done a whole advertising campaign as it's exclusive to their supermark, it has a small label on it stating made in the UK, whoo hoo fill up the shopping trolley, it tasted great
As for the boycotting, it never worked with Nestle and their human rights issues, cant see it happening to Cadbury, although I was a little sad to see such a great Biritish institute as Cadbury sold to the yanks, an institute I have bankrolled for more years than I care to remember.....
I had an interesting chat with a guy from Premier Foods who was down here (Oz) looking for products they could sell in the UK, I said to him whatever you do dont take any of the chocolate home it tastes bloody awful.
Cadbury do a multitude of 200g bars including the 70's classic with various fondant fruit centres known as the Snack and a Rocky Road (this has so much crap in it you just dont get to taste the foul chocolate)
So my assumption was due to the heat here they placed preservatives in the chocolate to stop it from melting thus giving it the awful taste, he informed me this was partly the reason but the main reason was the grass, the land the cows eat from is very different from that of an English cow that gets to eat lush green grass from very fertile land, whereas down here the grass is not as lush and the ground not as fertile which has an affect on the milk when making chocolate.
That said the milk tastes no different to back home.
I reckon the Polish version should be OK, hardly an arid country.
I have my choccy mailed over every now and then, I'm down to my last Picnic (which is under lock and key in the fridge until the expiry date!!), if anyone is feeling public spirited and wants to send me more supplies feel free
Funnily enough my local super market has started selling Wispa Gold and done a whole advertising campaign as it's exclusive to their supermark, it has a small label on it stating made in the UK, whoo hoo fill up the shopping trolley, it tasted great
As for the boycotting, it never worked with Nestle and their human rights issues, cant see it happening to Cadbury, although I was a little sad to see such a great Biritish institute as Cadbury sold to the yanks, an institute I have bankrolled for more years than I care to remember.....
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It can't be hard making a bit of chocolate. Why don't the old Cadburys' employees put their heads together, get hold of a venture capitalist and make an alternative range of bars which is obviously a Cadbury's clone but doesn't break any copy write deal that Kraft will have put in place. Lots of UK sympathy so it might just work?
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