Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Argentina's 'Sovereignty' of The Falklands

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 18 February 2010, 11:04 AM
  #1  
GlesgaKiss
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
GlesgaKiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 6,284
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Talking Argentina's 'Sovereignty' of The Falklands

It looks like Argentina, after leaving things be since the Falklands war, quite fancy having the oil that UK companies are looking for down there.

YouTube - Falklands Oil Search May Stir U.K.-Argentina Tensions

Falklands oil row: Argentina crisis deepens | Mail Online
Old 18 February 2010, 11:11 AM
  #2  
David Lock
Scooby Regular
 
David Lock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Weston Super Mare, Somerset.
Posts: 14,102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

60 billion barrels at $70 per barrel would get Mr Brown out of a hole...... dl
Old 18 February 2010, 11:21 AM
  #3  
Hanley
Scooby Regular
 
Hanley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 3,229
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

We'll probably sell it to Europe for $30 a barrel and buy it back at $100 a barrel

Old 18 February 2010, 11:21 AM
  #4  
hodgy0_2
Scooby Regular
 
hodgy0_2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K
Posts: 15,633
Received 21 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

i will admit to thinking, way back in 1982, when i was a fresh faced 18 year old

what the fvck are the Argies doing off the west coast of Scotland
Old 18 February 2010, 11:55 AM
  #5  
GlesgaKiss
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
GlesgaKiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 6,284
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hanley
We'll probably sell it to Europe for $30 a barrel and buy it back at $100 a barrel

You're probably not far wrong. It's highly unlikely there will be any kind of military action, but unfortunately I doubt Gordon Brown has the ***** to be firm about this. It's probably going to be a case of coming to some sort of limp wristed compromise involving us handing out cash to Argentina.

Send troops out to Afghan to fight a(dare I say) pointless war, but when it comes to protecting the nation's interests it could be a different story.

Last edited by GlesgaKiss; 18 February 2010 at 12:00 PM.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:00 PM
  #6  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
You're probably not far wrong. It's highly unlikely there will be any kind of military action, but unfortunately I doubt Gordon Brown has the ***** to be firm about this. It's probably going to be a case of coming to some sort of compromise involving us handing out cash to Argentina.

Send troops out to Afghan to fight a(dare I say) pointless war, but when it comes to protecting the nation's interests it could be a different story.
Spot-on.

Brown won't have the ***** to make a stand. One of his Quangos (SP) will probably advise him it'll be cheaper to just let the Argies have it, and buy the oil back off them.

Argies then sell it at a stupid high price to the UK, and petrol price sore even more.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:00 PM
  #7  
Nimbus
Scooby Regular
 
Nimbus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,413
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I wonder if Mr Brown will be as willing to go to war for oil as Mr Blair was?
Old 18 February 2010, 12:00 PM
  #8  
SwissTony
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (19)
 
SwissTony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In the Doghouse
Posts: 28,228
Received 12 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I see the Navy has sent a few tugboats over there...


Are we as a nation a bit bored now with Iraq and Afghanistan ??
Are we looking for a scrap elsewhere.

The cynic in me thinks that the timing is quite smart considering there is a General election fast approaching
Old 18 February 2010, 12:05 PM
  #9  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SwissTony
I see the Navy has sent a few tugboats over there...
Why? Are they planning on towing the Island back over here?
Old 18 February 2010, 12:07 PM
  #10  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If this all kicks off before the World cup, an England V's Argentina game will be interesting.

£5 on Rooney chinning the lot of them.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:08 PM
  #11  
SwissTony
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (19)
 
SwissTony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In the Doghouse
Posts: 28,228
Received 12 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stilover
Why? Are they planning on towing the Island back over here?
Just an indication of the might of our Naval Force
Old 18 February 2010, 12:10 PM
  #12  
Puff The Magic Wagon!
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (2)
 
Puff The Magic Wagon!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: From far, far away...
Posts: 16,978
Received 15 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

The argies have got a couple of months to start something before a potential change of government.

Don't think Cameron & Hague, who after all was a Maggie spawn don't forget, would allow them to get away with anything...
Old 18 February 2010, 12:14 PM
  #13  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nuke-em.

Problem solved.



Allow the pretty females out first though.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:25 PM
  #14  
Setright
Scooby Regular
 
Setright's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As an "innocent bystander" I say: Stand your ground!

Don't let the lives lost in 1982 be in vain.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:30 PM
  #15  
Myles
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (40)
 
Myles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Marlow, Bucks.
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Do you remember back in '82, Maggies appeal was waning, well the Tories were as a party, and the Falklands conflict, and all the talk of 'Our Boys' pushed her back into a position of dominance.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:34 PM
  #16  
fivetide
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
fivetide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Central Scotland
Posts: 3,687
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This is what the Falkland sconflict was all about in the first place.

We've already had some goon from the foreign office giving it "we have good relations blah blah" even though they've already stopped British ships.

Needs a 'bog off or we'll be back' message and pronto.

5t.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:37 PM
  #17  
r32
Scooby Regular
 
r32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Far Corfe
Posts: 3,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Does any one think that a) this Government will stand firm? And b) As we helped out the US in Iraq and Afghanistan they would help us in the Falklands?
Old 18 February 2010, 12:38 PM
  #18  
Myles
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (40)
 
Myles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Marlow, Bucks.
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fivetide
This is what the Falkland sconflict was all about in the first place.

We've already had some goon from the foreign office giving it "we have good relations blah blah" even though they've already stopped British ships.

Needs a 'bog off or we'll be back' message and pronto.

5t.


Show em whos boss. Not with a show of strength in a political sense, with a flypast of Buenos Aires like we had planned in 82. Not with Vulcans this time, obviously.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:43 PM
  #19  
MJW
Scooby Senior
 
MJW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Yorks.
Posts: 4,130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I think our military is over stretched as it is, I'd be surprised if we could spare five guys from the TA with a slingshot apiece.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:47 PM
  #20  
stilover
Scooby Regular
 
stilover's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Here, There, Everywhere
Posts: 10,619
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by r32
As we helped out the US in Iraq and Afghanistan they would help us in the Falklands?
The US would help, yes. But after the conflict, they claim all the oil for themselves.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:49 PM
  #21  
kingofturds
Scooby Regular
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
kingofturds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Zanzibar
Posts: 17,373
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Can't the government cancel an election in the event of an emergency?
Old 18 February 2010, 12:51 PM
  #22  
The Zohan
Scooby Regular
 
The Zohan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Disco, Disco!
Posts: 21,825
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Anyone know how the Argentine banks and economy are doing, last time the war was about getting the people thinking about national pride and of the spiraling inflation and thier countries debts.

Ironically we are the ones with massive debts at the moment and our military is also heavily commited in the middle east. I do doubt we could sustain two fronts for long as we cannot supply the forces with the right kit as it is. We do hawever have a substancial force now based on the Falklands which should help deter the Argies

250 or so british soldiers died back in '82 defending and retaking the Falklands.

I do hope the bunch of spineless self serving w@nkers currently in power do not hand it over or get told to by the EU thus negating thier responsibility and allowing lots of hand wringing by Brown et al.


Some of us still remember the Belgrano - as The Sun put it so elequently - GOTCHA!

Hands off Argies or you may end up with yet another bloody nose

Last edited by The Zohan; 18 February 2010 at 12:54 PM.
Old 18 February 2010, 12:52 PM
  #23  
Leslie
Scooby Regular
 
Leslie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 39,877
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I certainly see trouble ahead over this. The mineral wealth was known about during the first conflict and I reckon that the Argentinians will believe that in the first place that we are unable to mount a similar defence to our previous one and also quite rightly that our great leader would not have the ***** to do it anyway!

I will be very surprised if they don't make a move eventually. The value of that oil is enormous.

Les
Old 18 February 2010, 12:52 PM
  #24  
LC Geezer
Scooby Regular
 
LC Geezer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The US helped us in the Falklands conflict quite considerably. Just very discretely (most unlike them).
Old 18 February 2010, 12:57 PM
  #25  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,038
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MJW
I think our military is over stretched as it is, I'd be surprised if we could spare five guys from the TA with a slingshot apiece.
We could always strap a refueling tank to XH558 and commandeer the QMII, then pop over there for a few months to reaffirm the situation.

Last edited by ALi-B; 18 February 2010 at 12:59 PM.
Old 18 February 2010, 01:02 PM
  #26  
GlesgaKiss
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
GlesgaKiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 6,284
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Yes, our armed forces very overstretched at the moment.

It's quite simple though really; if you try and take what isn't yours, we'll stop you. That's the message we should be sending out. We shouldn't give so much as an inch in my opinion.
Old 18 February 2010, 01:11 PM
  #27  
Puff The Magic Wagon!
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (2)
 
Puff The Magic Wagon!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: From far, far away...
Posts: 16,978
Received 15 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Yes, our armed forces very overstretched at the moment.

Big sea next to Afghanistan
Old 18 February 2010, 01:19 PM
  #28  
r32
Scooby Regular
 
r32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Far Corfe
Posts: 3,618
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Yes, our armed forces very overstretched at the moment.

It's quite simple though really; if you try and take what isn't yours, we'll stop you. That's the message we should be sending out. We shouldn't give so much as an inch in my opinion.
Can you see one eyed Gordie doing that????????? He'll be worried that in a few years there'll be an inquiry. Apart from the fact he's single handidly run our armed forces (both as Chancellor and now as PM) to be at such a low level we cant do anything about it.

List of countries by number of troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We have less men, less fighting vehicles, less planes, less boats etc etc than even France.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ce-France.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-invasion.html

Last edited by r32; 18 February 2010 at 01:26 PM.
Old 18 February 2010, 01:25 PM
  #29  
john_s
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
john_s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Preston, Lancs.
Posts: 2,977
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SwissTony
Just an indication of the might of our Naval Force
You mean as in... "we might still have something resembling a naval force"?
Old 18 February 2010, 01:25 PM
  #30  
SwissTony
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (19)
 
SwissTony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In the Doghouse
Posts: 28,228
Received 12 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stilover
Allow the pretty females out first though.
I hear Mr Impreza has already arranged a ship for that rescue mission




Quick Reply: Argentina's 'Sovereignty' of The Falklands



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:01 PM.