UK Met Office Temperature Records in doubt
24 February 2010, 11:42 PM
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UK Met Office Temperature Records in doubt
Apparently the Met Office is now asking for some one to go through and check its temperature records and the calculations it has done about future trends as they think it might have errors!! Considering they cant predict the weather 3 months in advance (Last years barbecue summer for example) what chance do they have 5 years in advance
Strange how all this is now coming to light after the emails from the UEA shows what a wide spread conspiracy it is, still i suspect Government grants are only given to organisations that promote the man made Global Warming so they can tax us more
Strange how all this is now coming to light after the emails from the UEA shows what a wide spread conspiracy it is, still i suspect Government grants are only given to organisations that promote the man made Global Warming so they can tax us more
25 February 2010, 02:13 PM
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If I want a weather forecast, I ask Google, it's usually right, whereas the Metoffice was only right 50% of the time, if that.
They are too busy pushing the government's global warming crap to do the weather properly, anyway.
IIRC, the predicted a warm winter. It's been the hardest one in 30 years apparently.
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25 February 2010, 02:54 PM
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A mate of mine says the Met office are useless........ And he used to work for them!!!
I use weatherpro app on my iPhone and have to say its damn good, accurance is about 90 - 95%. Mind you it is german.... Maybe that says a few things.
I use weatherpro app on my iPhone and have to say its damn good, accurance is about 90 - 95%. Mind you it is german.... Maybe that says a few things.
25 February 2010, 04:06 PM
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It's all lip service.
They'll have it checked because they have some "concerns."
Shortly after they'll come out with "we've had it checked and guess what, our figures are correct."
They'll have it checked because they have some "concerns."
Shortly after they'll come out with "we've had it checked and guess what, our figures are correct."
25 February 2010, 06:49 PM
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I watched the last "How Earth Made Us" last night, and he came out with one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
He said that the only reason we weren't in an ice now (actually since 7000 years ago) was that man had altered the climate by burning land to clear for crops
Quite astonishingly daft!
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He said that the only reason we weren't in an ice now (actually since 7000 years ago) was that man had altered the climate by burning land to clear for crops
Quite astonishingly daft!
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25 February 2010, 07:27 PM
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25 February 2010, 09:54 PM
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There was an IT "expert" on TV yesterday and apparently he has found an error in the software the Met Office has written to process its data and carry out predictions....
.....the error created means
Your like this....................
not!!!
apparently they have under estimated the amount of global warming in the future
.....the error created means
Your like this....................
not!!!
apparently they have under estimated the amount of global warming in the future
25 February 2010, 09:59 PM
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I watched the last "How Earth Made Us" last night, and he came out with one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.
He said that the only reason we weren't in an ice now (actually since 7000 years ago) was that man had altered the climate by burning land to clear for crops
Quite astonishingly daft!
Geezer
He said that the only reason we weren't in an ice now (actually since 7000 years ago) was that man had altered the climate by burning land to clear for crops
Quite astonishingly daft!
Geezer
25 February 2010, 11:08 PM
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More of the same ... see .... EU Referendum: Quality, not volume
"... The global warming began falling in Staten Island NY at 8 am their time (five hours behind the UK). By the time it has finished, perhaps by tomorrow morning, 12-14 inches may have accumulated, whipped up by strong winds, possibly gusting to hurricane force.
Not under any conceivable circumstances however, are the warmists prepared to concede that this – or the exceptionally hard winter throughout the northern hemisphere – in any way affects their beliefs.
Instead, we hear tell that climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public ......"
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"... The global warming began falling in Staten Island NY at 8 am their time (five hours behind the UK). By the time it has finished, perhaps by tomorrow morning, 12-14 inches may have accumulated, whipped up by strong winds, possibly gusting to hurricane force.
Not under any conceivable circumstances however, are the warmists prepared to concede that this – or the exceptionally hard winter throughout the northern hemisphere – in any way affects their beliefs.
Instead, we hear tell that climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public ......"
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26 February 2010, 07:54 AM
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Indeed, there is a story on BBC news today about a huge iceberg in the southern ocean which they say will could give us cold winters in the northern hemisphere for years to come.
It just shows there are so many variables in climate that they really don't know how it all works.
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It just shows there are so many variables in climate that they really don't know how it all works.
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26 February 2010, 09:48 AM
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BBC ... BBC forecast for Met Office: changeable - Times Online
The contract's up in April so they're out to tender.
"... BUFFETED by complaints about its inaccurate weather forecasts, the Met Office now faces being dumped by the BBC after almost 90 years.
The Met Office contract with the BBC expires in April and the broadcaster has begun talks with Metra, the national forecaster for New Zealand, as a possible alternative.
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Metra already produces graphics for the BBC, including the 3-D weather map that made some viewers feel sick when it was introduced in 2005. Weather Commerce, Metra’s UK subsidiary, has already usurped the Met Office in supplying forecasts to Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Marks & Spencer and Waitrose ..."
I find Accuweather one of the best. http://www.accuweather.com/world-ind...er=accuweather
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The contract's up in April so they're out to tender.
"... BUFFETED by complaints about its inaccurate weather forecasts, the Met Office now faces being dumped by the BBC after almost 90 years.
The Met Office contract with the BBC expires in April and the broadcaster has begun talks with Metra, the national forecaster for New Zealand, as a possible alternative.
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Metra already produces graphics for the BBC, including the 3-D weather map that made some viewers feel sick when it was introduced in 2005. Weather Commerce, Metra’s UK subsidiary, has already usurped the Met Office in supplying forecasts to Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Marks & Spencer and Waitrose ..."
I find Accuweather one of the best. http://www.accuweather.com/world-ind...er=accuweather
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26 February 2010, 01:20 PM
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Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Weather: Hottest January ever say climate experts
"... CLIMATE scientists yesterday stunned Britons suffering the coldest winter for 30 years by claiming last month was the *hottest January the world has ever seen .."
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"... CLIMATE scientists yesterday stunned Britons suffering the coldest winter for 30 years by claiming last month was the *hottest January the world has ever seen .."
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26 February 2010, 01:32 PM
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Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Weather: Hottest January ever say climate experts
"... CLIMATE scientists yesterday stunned Britons suffering the coldest winter for 30 years by claiming last month was the *hottest January the world has ever seen .."
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"... CLIMATE scientists yesterday stunned Britons suffering the coldest winter for 30 years by claiming last month was the *hottest January the world has ever seen .."
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26 February 2010, 08:06 PM
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See Goebbels And The “Big Lie”
"... **** propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels was the master of the “big lie” tactic in which a lie, no matter how outrageous, is repeated often enough that it will eventually be accepted as truth. Goebbels explained: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ..."
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26 February 2010, 08:17 PM
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See Goebbels And The “Big Lie”
"... **** propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels was the master of the “big lie” tactic in which a lie, no matter how outrageous, is repeated often enough that it will eventually be accepted as truth. Goebbels explained: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ..."
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"... **** propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels was the master of the “big lie” tactic in which a lie, no matter how outrageous, is repeated often enough that it will eventually be accepted as truth. Goebbels explained: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” ..."
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Unless you think Goerbbels kept accurate temperature data
26 February 2010, 08:37 PM
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