Which Plasma? or why a LCD? what would you do?
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Which Plasma? or why a LCD? what would you do?
My brother in Law has offered to give me his 40" Samsung LCD (now 2 years old) or has offered to buy me a new 50" Plasma (seeing there only near £600)...
Quite clearly he is working on a budget, as am I..if I was not i would have bought a 46" LED!
Now i dnt want...LCD for me, Plasmas do me...LCD's are better
i am looking for reasoning behind why you would choose one over the other..
remember they are both free...and under warranty for 5 years..and Full HD
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
yes the plasma weighs more, and apparently uses more electricity but will it be that noticeable? I mean its not like your going to drive around with it in your Scooby...where every ounce counts.. lol
Quite clearly he is working on a budget, as am I..if I was not i would have bought a 46" LED!
Now i dnt want...LCD for me, Plasmas do me...LCD's are better
i am looking for reasoning behind why you would choose one over the other..
remember they are both free...and under warranty for 5 years..and Full HD
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
yes the plasma weighs more, and apparently uses more electricity but will it be that noticeable? I mean its not like your going to drive around with it in your Scooby...where every ounce counts.. lol
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Over forty inches the plasma is going to give you a better picture especially as ScoobyJawa says with sports programmes. The only reservation I had with buying plasma was they are not as durable or reliable as LCD. This is what the bloke who sold me the TV said. That was enough for me to go for the LCD.
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Plasma and as said, Panasonic rule the roost but its also worth checking out LG's range as some of their models are a great deal better for similar outlay. Good news for you is that Panasonic and LG are changing their model range over right now so its defo a good time to grab a deal on "last years" model!
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I got a 42" Panasonic Plasma 2 years ago and never regretted it.
Picture quality is A+ compared to any new LCD I have seen. My dad bought a Panasonic 37" LCD a few weeks ago but returned it as its crap in comparison to mine.
Electricity - who cares.
Picture quality is A+ compared to any new LCD I have seen. My dad bought a Panasonic 37" LCD a few weeks ago but returned it as its crap in comparison to mine.
Electricity - who cares.
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Both my brothers have Plasma's, one is a Panasonic and the other a Sansang, again no problems 3 years on...
I was in richer sounds the other day and they guy said to buy a LCD as the plasma's burn more specially with still images at the top of the screen (like the logos for the channels) i have not seen this on the plasma's...anyone who what he was on about?
Also the this is 100HZ
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
and this is 600
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/lg-50ps...10033-pdt.html
I was in richer sounds the other day and they guy said to buy a LCD as the plasma's burn more specially with still images at the top of the screen (like the logos for the channels) i have not seen this on the plasma's...anyone who what he was on about?
Also the this is 100HZ
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
and this is 600
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/lg-50ps...10033-pdt.html
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Both my brothers have Plasma's, one is a Panasonic and the other a Sansang, again no problems 3 years on...
I was in richer sounds the other day and they guy said to buy a LCD as the plasma's burn more specially with still images at the top of the screen (like the logos for the channels) i have not seen this on the plasma's...anyone who what he was on about?
Also the this is 100HZ
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
and this is 600
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/lg-50ps...10033-pdt.html
I was in richer sounds the other day and they guy said to buy a LCD as the plasma's burn more specially with still images at the top of the screen (like the logos for the channels) i have not seen this on the plasma's...anyone who what he was on about?
Also the this is 100HZ
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung...81574-pdt.html
and this is 600
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/lg-50ps...10033-pdt.html
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Re the burning issue - I think Plasmas have to be 'run in' for so many hrs and in this time you are not supposed to leave it on 1 channel with logo's for a long period.
I wouldn't trust any salesman as they will want to offload the less popular products to novices.
I wouldn't trust any salesman as they will want to offload the less popular products to novices.
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Can I just ask - is there a big difference between 1080i and 1080p?
I've got a 42PX70 and I've got this nagging wish to get a 50 and one of the reasons is the PX70 is 1080i - am I likely to see any difference in real world terms?
I've got a 42PX70 and I've got this nagging wish to get a 50 and one of the reasons is the PX70 is 1080i - am I likely to see any difference in real world terms?
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Absolutely - best plasma's I've ever owned (had a few!) were Pannys, since Pioneer stopped making them no-one comes close.
Love my 50" Viera Cost me £680 (which is a great price for a Panny IMHO) but chopped my naff 42" LG in on Ebay for £400 so only cost £280 to change.
Mines only HD Ready, not Full HD but at the distance I view from it wasn't worth paying double to have 1080p, especially when I have a 1080p projector
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Burning is no longer an issue (at least not with a decent set), my LG suffered it terribly, by my Panny has none whatsoever, no matter how long it is left on the same channel or game.
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As I said above it also depends big time on how close to the screen you are. Mines about 4-5 metres away and at that distance I just wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p (thanks to AV Forums for this advice as it meant spending half the price!). If you are fairly close to the set then yes you will see a difference.
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My 4/5year old Pioneer is only 1080i and I am starting to worry about it dying in about few years as I haven't seen a TV that can offer the same level of quality when watching SD TV as well as HD.
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So which one do i get of the 50"
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
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Go read ... http://www.avforums.com/forums/3605318-post1.html ... A bit old now but explains the differences. Search on 'AVForums' for more stuff on it.
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Can I just ask - is there a big difference between 1080i and 1080p?
the picture quality on BBC's Life (1080i) is not nearly as good as Battlestar galactica (1080p) - there's obviously the quality of production and transfer to consider, but it just doesn't 'feel' as good on the eyes.
btw, i have a 60" pioneer kuro plasma (LX6090)
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1080i v's 1080p is pretty mute to a degree as it's down to the the media input that the set is trying to display. If you are going to feed it 1080p (Blu ray, maybe xbox 360 or PS3 games although very rare) you will see the best picture your set can display if it's capable of 1080p. If it cant display 1080p then there is going to be a layer f processing either by the media player or the TV.
If you aren't going to feed your TV a blu ray feed then for most people 720p\1080i set is comparable.
Sky HD is always broadcast at 1080i. As already said 1080p every line of the picture is changed between each frame. 1080i frames 1,3,5,7,9 etc are changed and on the next refresh lines 2,4,6,8,10 etc are changed. Again different media you are wanting to watch can mean there are advantages and disadvantages to it.
To try and highlight how this may have some effects think of watching a film in HD. from a bluray the picture being fed to the TV will normally show 24 frames per second this is as per the film was made. Each frame will change every single pixel on your display. This is considered the best you can get at home for most people.
A film broadcast by Sky in HD will send 50 frames per second to the TV in 1080i. the Tv however will only display 25 frames per second in this case. The TV will take the 2 frames it receives and combine them to change all the pixels every 25th of a sec. This can give a comparable picture to the bluray to some extent. the issue that you may pick up here is you are seeing one frame per second more than the director of the film intended but you're not going to notice it in reality.
If you aren't going to feed your TV a blu ray feed then for most people 720p\1080i set is comparable.
Sky HD is always broadcast at 1080i. As already said 1080p every line of the picture is changed between each frame. 1080i frames 1,3,5,7,9 etc are changed and on the next refresh lines 2,4,6,8,10 etc are changed. Again different media you are wanting to watch can mean there are advantages and disadvantages to it.
To try and highlight how this may have some effects think of watching a film in HD. from a bluray the picture being fed to the TV will normally show 24 frames per second this is as per the film was made. Each frame will change every single pixel on your display. This is considered the best you can get at home for most people.
A film broadcast by Sky in HD will send 50 frames per second to the TV in 1080i. the Tv however will only display 25 frames per second in this case. The TV will take the 2 frames it receives and combine them to change all the pixels every 25th of a sec. This can give a comparable picture to the bluray to some extent. the issue that you may pick up here is you are seeing one frame per second more than the director of the film intended but you're not going to notice it in reality.
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So which one do i get of the 50"
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
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So which one do i get of the 50"
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
Or the U10 which is cheaper again and says its Full HD.
EDIT - I wouldn't mind knowing exactly what the S20 and G20 have or do that the U10 doesn't because I'm quite tempted now. The U10 is like £550 cheaper and the only thing that worries me is the U10 doesn't have an anti reflective layer but then our PX70 doesn't either and it really is only an issue on the very brightest of days (so not often in Wales )
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Sam, the best advice I can give you is not buy directly off spec. Go into a store and watch a few telly's you like the sound of. Disregard spec and go for what your eye tells you is good. Always demo the TV on Standard def and High Def and go from there, also remember to try and hear it too and some tv's sound crap. Everyones eye is different and specs are nothing more than pub talk.
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But only if you can see them in a separate demonstration room with your own media (DVD, Blu-Ray etc). Do NOT buy on the image quality you see in Comet/Dixons/Other-cheap-tastic-store where about 20 TVs share the same video feed. If you don't know why you need to do more research!
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A shop is a quite unnatural area to view a Tv though due to the lighting they have. also often side by side the brighter LCD in dynamic mode normally will look sharper and stand out more but in your home in normal light as Les says the Plasmas will give a better representation of the intended picture and they'll have better blacks.
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So which one do i get of the 50"
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
plasma's
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/43-tvs/...-criteria.html
Oooh..one more thing..how much thicker are the plasma's? i know they weight like 40KG's!
I got the X10 and its brill
And as for how wide - its about 4-5"
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