dpb

At long last we get to remove the thinly disguised dicatator , "leader" of zanNu Labia ( Saviour of the free world to the weak minded)

Im sure the veterans will be out on the streets warning of what will happen to you if you vote the wrong way - youll need to be brave and

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Dont let the Torys back in either theyre as bad ( believe me , i lived thro the eighties )







The only acceptable course is Liberal

GC8

The Conservatives only did what had to be done (class warriors take note). If the Liberals win theyll have to make cuts thatll make Margaret Thatcher look like she was mildy tightening her belt.

Will we then have a generation of apoplectic 'Clegg-haters'?

The Zohan

efa and agreed!

urban

iTrader: (1)

Whoever wins is going to be despised

However, if and i really mean IF
IF you can believe what you read then the Lib Dems seems to be the most honest of the trio

dpb

It should in reality be a lean time for all of us whatever happens

are you suggesting voting Labour in to spite them

The Zohan

Honesty - They plan to let up to 1m illegals get UK passports. Amnesty for up to 1m illegal immigrants - how is this going to help the recovery when the passports handed out?

Butkus

If when the votes are cast the results are exactly as the polls are suggesting now, will thta mean Cameron will be prime minister? Will it be enough to get rid of Brown?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

It doesn't bear thinking about really does it?

Brown, Cameron or Clegg???

3 greedy self serving career politicians who spout about honesty and integrity yet wouldn't know the meaning of the word.

Why oh why can't we have just one proper leader who wants genuine good for the country?

The Zohan

+1

Luan Pra bang

Liberals ? Let illegals have citizenship ? Pro Europe ? Reduce the tax beneits for pensions ? Block all nuclear power stations but block coal power stations as well (where exactly is this power going to come from ? Spend loads more money we don't have on foreign aid ?

Great choice.

scooby L

+1

Unfortunately, being a greedy, self serving deceitful **** is a prerequisite of becoming a politician . There isn't one I'd want to share a table with.

urban

iTrader: (1)

Yeah - but wasn't that something like you had to prove you'd been here for 10 years or more via utility bills and the likes?

And OK the "more honest" comment was moreso directed at cost savings and increased/hidden taxes

dpb

France . Its been done before

Years of farting around trying to decide what to do .!

But id agree Nuclear should have been the way forward alongside 'nicer' renewables

The Zohan

Having entered illegally how and why would 'they' have utility bills/keep paperwork for 10 years often living in shared housing and paying rent to a landord - cash in hand

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Depends on the level of proof that the government will want to see. They may have bank statements to show the payments that were needed to get them into the country. Then they may have accounts over here that they have been able to access (maybe in their name or now).

Personally I don't think this is a big issue. The biggest issue is stopping them getting here in the first place. Once they are hear its going to be so much harder and expensive to catch them than when they are at the ports.

I would rather they worked legally paying taxes, than staying under the radar and working cash in hand. After all, the real cost of immigrants are those on benefits....and they ARE registered already.

dpb

Theyre also going to have to have to have a clean record .

..and asylum seekers are going to be allowed to work , i spect that will grate even more with Mr Habgood

and nobody after 2010 , thats now right , is allowed in under the proposed shake up


...i can really see how this is going to encourage others to roll up

The Zohan

What does grate is that on issue of a passport they will be entitled to JSA other benefits including housing, including use of the NHS, etc.

Consider that these illegals got here illegally, worked illegally and can then become 'British' citizens despite breaking our laws. What messages does this send back to the countries that the illegals come from then? Do you think this will hlep reduce the numbers coming here???

Get the long-term unemployed and lifestyle out of work back to work first before letting in EU and no EU immigrants - if we have the jobs for them.

Remember an illegal working for min or under wage (illegally) and then suddenly needing to contribute to NI and tax + thier employers doing the same, i wonder just how many will suddenly become unemployed.


Illegal workers working have helped undercut proper companies ane employees , who pay tax and NI and a legal wage and in some cases pushed out legal workers and companies - it is all wrong!

dpb

Well theyve arrived here cant do much about that - blame Labour for that

its what happens hereon in that matters

The Zohan

great attitude and example to set it will stop illegal immigration overnight

I see you avoided my questions on how this will benefit the country

dpb

Whilst its a nice idea to see these long term scroungers employed and making well
its unlikley to happen ( if you were to give them the option ,overnight )

I suspect the people that roll up here from all points are the 'intelligent' ones in fact id put money on it.

The Zohan

You just seem happy to forget the came illegally and likely worked illegally whilst here with all theeffects that has. You seem happy to blissfully ignore the effects it could have on health, housing, benefits, etc even though we need to be making cuts.
And still no answer as to how this will help/make things better, oh well.

Managing to get long term unemployed back to work in the states despite the weak minded liberals and lefties wringing their hands at the HR violations - and it worked

mamoon2

Vote UKIP

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Oh another thread about immigration, deep joy

There are other issues in this election, not sure most of SN NSR atually realise that

Gordo

I love it - people believe Clegg's 'honesty' when he's able to peddle any lie he likes as he's confident he won't have to deliver on any of them. Complete cobblers full of inane promises to the weak minded. If I believed in God I'd ask him to help us!

Gordo

urban

iTrader: (1)

Yes exactly, so in my book that means no proof, OK then **** off
Maybe its just me that sees this as a slightly devious way of deporting illegals
How it would work in principal is another entirely different matter.

The Zohan

No, not really, any illegals caught are released back into society and asked to report regularly to the Police - guess what - some do not do so, who would have thought it.

asking people to prove they have been here 10 years - well they might keep records, they will not have bank ststements, ni or tax to prove this though so how will they do so and how many who have not been here 10 years will fake it to get a passport - lib dims likely to let morte people who are not entitled to stay, stay.

urban

iTrader: (1)

So whats the point then?
Where did you read that they get released back to society etc etc

dpb

hes guessing

dpb

you clearly need a better attitude .

and jesus wont help you - jus that cross on the right line