Argentina vows to defend her interests after oil discovery
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Argentina vows to defend her interests after oil discovery
Now I know the Royal Navy is not in the best of shape but surely a bunch of 50 year old frigates are not going to prove much of an attack force.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7119075.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7119075.ece
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm
Run the Hugo Chavvy clip inset into the BBC link, see how out of touch and hot headed the wops get!
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There is a much larger military presence on the islands than there was. Argentina yet agian has financial woes and looking towards the Falklands for increasing thier revinue is not suprising as is the argies trying to drum up support from thier part of the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm
Run the Hugo Chavvy clip inset into the BBC link, see how out of touch and hot headed the wops get!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm
Run the Hugo Chavvy clip inset into the BBC link, see how out of touch and hot headed the wops get!
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There is a much larger military presence on the islands than there was. Argentina yet agian has financial woes and looking towards the Falklands for increasing thier revinue is not suprising as is the argies trying to drum up support from thier part of the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm
Run the Hugo Chavvy clip inset into the BBC link, see how out of touch and hot headed the wops get!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm
Run the Hugo Chavvy clip inset into the BBC link, see how out of touch and hot headed the wops get!
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Just tell the argies that all the money is going to land mine clearance, you know, the ones they just dropped all over the place without any consideration, or marking where they dropped em.... nice chaps but we do have 4 eurofighters over there now
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Thank god for that I was thinking we had to rely on the Navy, and we saw what a mess they get in without helicopter support and some rubber dingy's surrounding them
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Yeah but the same can be said for the belgrano.
Anyway our military is now in a much stronger position why you think the argies said they wouldn't use force.
Anyway our military is now in a much stronger position why you think the argies said they wouldn't use force.
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Not fully aware of the situation would it not be cheaper and involve less of a diplomatic situation and loss of life to offer a percentage of the revenue, as potentially as has been said, defending UK interests could be difficult, involve a costly deployment of troops and probably end up with the Rig being destroyed and us ending up with nothing.
A collaboration with a measure of compromise on both sides would be the only way to solve this, if they want it all and wont accept a percentage interest then thats when they break out the Marines again.
A collaboration with a measure of compromise on both sides would be the only way to solve this, if they want it all and wont accept a percentage interest then thats when they break out the Marines again.
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Argentinas economy completely collapsed a few years back. There is no way they could support an aggressive intervention. I doubt the military has had any spending on it for years.
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A good compromise would be to look to pipe some if not all of the oil ashore to Argentina. This may well be geographically as well as politically advantageous, would give the Argies some revenue but the bulk of the income could still go to pay off our debt. When you extract oil, you need to process it before just tankering it off to the refinery - that can be done offshore but is easier to do on dry land.
I bet not many people here know that a lot of Norwegian oil is brought ashore in the UK, stabilised and then shipped off.
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I bet not many people here know that a lot of Norwegian oil is brought ashore in the UK, stabilised and then shipped off.
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Not fully aware of the situation would it not be cheaper and involve less of a diplomatic situation and loss of life to offer a percentage of the revenue, as potentially as has been said, defending UK interests could be difficult, involve a costly deployment of troops and probably end up with the Rig being destroyed and us ending up with nothing.
A collaboration with a measure of compromise on both sides would be the only way to solve this, if they want it all and wont accept a percentage interest then thats when they break out the Marines again.
A collaboration with a measure of compromise on both sides would be the only way to solve this, if they want it all and wont accept a percentage interest then thats when they break out the Marines again.
Thing is Cameron will be PM of a very shaky government soon. So what better way to get the backing of the people than some good old Argie killing in the name of our sovereignty.
Then he can call another election and sweep to power ... worked for Maggie so why not?
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What sort of lefty thinking is that? Please keep the common sense to yourself in future.
Thing is Cameron will be PM of a very shaky government soon. So what better way to get the backing of the people than some good old Argie killing in the name of our sovereignty.
Then he can call another election and sweep to power ... worked for Maggie so why not?
Thing is Cameron will be PM of a very shaky government soon. So what better way to get the backing of the people than some good old Argie killing in the name of our sovereignty.
Then he can call another election and sweep to power ... worked for Maggie so why not?
Work out a deal, keep it above board and everyone reaps the benefits.
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Yep, political machinations may alter the way things turn out, I have always been taught to take a profit, sometimes you have to compromise to move forward, we are already fighting shadows over in Afghanistan and are over-commited financial and in term of young lives, fighting Argentinians wouldnt benefit anyone, the area is in dispute and oil has been found, it looks like it may be lucrative and I would rather have a percentage of Billions rather than dpilomatic situation, war, more young lives lost and political posturing, especially as its money the government wont see anyway.
Work out a deal, keep it above board and everyone reaps the benefits.
Work out a deal, keep it above board and everyone reaps the benefits.
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Pump that well dry, make as much coin as possible and move on some ware else to fund our excessive lifestyles, works for the US.
Any military action on there part will be met with brutal and submissive demolition of there country by the UK, which over a decade or so, Britain will gradually allow control back to them, using soldiers and party makers trained and educated by GB/
Pump that well dry, make as much coin as possible and move on some ware else to fund our excessive lifestyles, works for the US.
Any military action on there part will be met with brutal and submissive demolition of there country by the UK, which over a decade or so, Britain will gradually allow control back to them, using soldiers and party makers trained and educated by GB/
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it wont be us to strike first. never is. if the argies decide to take the islands, it will be the falklands conflict all over again.trenches, minefields and lots and lots of rain. is the money worth lives. to chubby brown, probably.
to be honest though if we did take all the oil and the uk made billions profit, we wouldnt see any of it. petrol would still be expensive. only differnece would be people claiming benifits, there money would be doubled and probably get a nicer flat. government might even give them a nice car to drive about in.lol.
to be honest though if we did take all the oil and the uk made billions profit, we wouldnt see any of it. petrol would still be expensive. only differnece would be people claiming benifits, there money would be doubled and probably get a nicer flat. government might even give them a nice car to drive about in.lol.
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Argentinian posturing about British colonialism always makes me laugh. It's not as if they are the indigenous population themselves. If they feel that strongly about colonialism they should all f*ck off back to Spain and leave Argentina to the Incans and Mapuche.
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