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Old 16 May 2010, 11:04 PM
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Sorry to go all PSL on you, but I told you so. Cameron has been ditching right wing policies as fast as he can to get the coalition together. Yes it comes from the LIb Dems, but the facts are easy to check.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/elec...-Lib-Dems.html

We're doooomed!
Old 16 May 2010, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Sorry to go all PSL on you, but I told you so. Cameron has been ditching right wing policies as fast as he can to get the coalition together. Yes it comes from the LIb Dems, but the facts are easy to check.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/elec...-Lib-Dems.html

We're doooomed!
Of course he's ditching 'right wing policies'. Right wing politics have been heavily defeated at the last 4 general elections. Cameron is a smart politician he knows there is no future in going off to the right. Plus it makes strategic sense to force Labour off the centre ground and to the left where there are even fewer votes

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Old 17 May 2010, 12:18 AM
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Don't say I didn't warn you all .............. give it 6 months until the real pain hits - I will be interested to see who demands the Tories get thrown out first
Old 17 May 2010, 12:27 AM
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No sooner does DC become PM than England win their first ever cricket world title. This are looking up, bring on the football world cup
Old 17 May 2010, 12:38 AM
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Uk is in a total and utter financial hole.

Bet you never said anything as Gordon Brown was down at the coal face, smiling at us (well grimacing). And my god was he wrecking a bad situation. Can`t really say the last recession was caused by him, but we can say that he DEFFO made a mountain out of a molehill and instead of a light covering in dung dust, we are neck deep in the stuff.

So what do the Government do??

Carry on like Labour, say its all under control (lies), and that we will sort it in 2 years.
By that time we are then like Greece or worse as we have higher living costs, due to too many scroungers etc etc etc thanks Labour.

Or do we take the tough choices, take the burden, take the costs involved?
I for one if in debt, will cut my outgoings and rationalise the money left, and suck it out. And then come time I`m out of debt, make sure I keep some aside for a rainy day.


This is where Gold comes into it, its our national reserve (same as US have got in Fort Knox), Gordon Brown sold a LOT of Gold a few years back. But being a **** told the financial markets in advance, thus lowering the price of gold, so when he did sell we had F*** ALL, where as now the price of gold is through the roof, we have nowt left really, and that is the only reserve keeping our head above the water.

So all in all Gordon did a crap job, Tony did a crap job, lets all hope Clegg and Cameron will together put the country back onto road to recovery and prosperity.


So Mr Lewis from the Labour strong hold of South Wales, thank **** that Gordon and his money wasting, sudo-socialist party are finally out of a job!!!
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Damn these double posts.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't say I didn't warn you all .............. give it 6 months until the real pain hits - I will be interested to see who demands the Tories get thrown out first
Pain is needed to pay off the debts that Mad Man Brown racked up to try to fake the country into prosperity.

It's all cyclical, and we're back to 1979 after Labour bankrupted us. It's no different this time, other than we have a coalition with a weak party.
Old 17 May 2010, 08:49 AM
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it all sounds cushty so far
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I'm still hoping they'll tear up the human rights act!!
Old 17 May 2010, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Don't say I didn't warn you all .............. give it 6 months until the real pain hits - I will be interested to see who demands the Tories get thrown out first
You betray yourself with that post. Do you really think that we don't fully expect that we will have to endure cuts and a drop in our living standards in order that the country survives the parlous state that your heroes have dropped us into over the 13 years they were in power?

If you are so knowledgeable please tell us what NL would do if they were still in power and what the result would be. This will be your excuse to duck out of a sensible response I imagine.

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Old 17 May 2010, 09:56 AM
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Oh no, to the bunker immediatly!
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Old 17 May 2010, 10:01 AM
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Labour left the Country in a right state, not surprising that its going to be painfull. Just amagine if it had been left any longer.

However ID cards go in the bin, (there's eighty billion saved) and we have a motorist as Transport Secretary. He doesnt like speed cameras too..................
Old 17 May 2010, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2

We're doooomed!
For a start you need to stop reading the Daily Fail - most stupid paper ever!.

Pi55ing about with the minutiae of government policy pales into insignificance compared to what they plan to do in the June budget. THEN we will know if Ronnie and Reggie are going to save us
Old 17 May 2010, 10:09 AM
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What did Vince Cable say about the amount of skeletons already falling out of the cupboard, scorched earth policy I think his words were....
Old 17 May 2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
Labour left the Country in a right state, not surprising that its going to be painfull. Just amagine if it had been left any longer.

However ID cards go in the bin, (there's eighty billion saved) and we have a motorist as Transport Secretary. He doesnt like speed cameras too..................

Well said. Personally I like the direction its going so far. Especially for an average human being and citizen of the UK, not a super rich or poverty ridden person.
ID cards definatly a good move. Interested to see what they actually do about roads and drivers.
Petrol price levelling sounds interesting, depending where the level is.

Originally Posted by EddScott
For a start you need to stop reading the Daily Fail - most stupid paper ever!.

Pi55ing about with the minutiae of government policy pales into insignificance compared to what they plan to do in the June budget. THEN we will know if Ronnie and Reggie are going to save us
Ditto, June 22nd then we will know whats ahead. Either way im not expecting any cuts lol, other than spending of course. I expect to be poorer from it.
Old 17 May 2010, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
What did Vince Cable say about the amount of skeletons already falling out of the cupboard, scorched earth policy I think his words were....
Yes he could well be right at that too!

Les
Old 17 May 2010, 11:58 AM
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I voted against Blair and Brown and they've made me pay for it, so believe I can legitimately complain about their legacy. However I won't be complaining about what we now have to go through as like the realistic portion of SN know we need to take a hit in a good cause.

If anyone who voted for those idiots now has the brass neck to utter a word...
Old 17 May 2010, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by [-(o)-]
I voted against Blair and Brown and they've made me pay for it, so believe I can legitimately complain about their legacy. However I won't be complaining about what we now have to go through as like the realistic portion of SN know we need to take a hit in a good cause.

If anyone who voted for those idiots now has the brass neck to utter a word...

Im sure not everyone saw it coming but I have to agree. 1 week in, and even though we know were are RIGHT in the brown stuff (double meaning) apparently we are in terrible trouble now the Tories are in

Lets look again in a years time.
This is not the only forum that Labour nutters (not the genuine supporters) are going mad on already.
Old 17 May 2010, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Snazy

Im sure not everyone saw it coming but I have to agree. 1 week in, and even though we know were are RIGHT in the brown stuff (double meaning) apparently we are in terrible trouble now the Tories are in

Lets look again in a years time.
This is not the only forum that Labour nutters (not the genuine supporters) are going mad on already.

which 'Labour nutters' are you refering to?

I've not spotted anything like that on here. Are you that allergic to having an open discussion on this subject that you have to brand everyone who might not entirely agree with you as a 'nutter'?
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did anyone actualy believe he would do what he said? pitty the fool who did lol
Old 17 May 2010, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
which 'Labour nutters' are you refering to?

I've not spotted anything like that on here. Are you that allergic to having an open discussion on this subject that you have to brand everyone who might not entirely agree with you as a 'nutter'?
Oh come on Martin, be real! You are telling me there is not ONE person on here that things the sun shines thru Labour's butt cheeks.

And for the record, you are not one of the people I had in mind.

Im not allergic to discussion at all, but I am tired of the same dribble about "maggy did this, I will never vote Tory"

So quite the opposite in fact, im probably a bit more open minded than some groups.Read carefully again, I said NOT the genuine supporters, wakey wakey and stop being so paranoid....... nutter (JOKE!)
Old 17 May 2010, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
which 'Labour nutters' are you refering to?

I've not spotted anything like that on here. Are you that allergic to having an open discussion on this subject that you have to brand everyone who might not entirely agree with you as a 'nutter'?
Anyone who ran the economy in the way they did has got to be a bit suspect in their judgement at the very least Martin

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Originally Posted by Martin2005
which 'Labour nutters' are you refering to?

I've not spotted anything like that on here. Are you that allergic to having an open discussion on this subject that you have to brand everyone who might not entirely agree with you as a 'nutter'?
If you like. However as a believer in conservative ideologies I'll offer you a choice: 'nutter' or 'subscriber to clearly unsustainable economic policy'
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Originally Posted by [-(o)-]
If you like. However as a believer in conservative ideologies I'll offer you a choice: 'nutter' or 'subscriber to clearly unsustainable economic policy'
Out of interest could you please describe the 'conservative ideologies' and exactly how they differ to NL's. It a surprise to me that David Cameron appears to be to the left of Tony Blair

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Get over it man (the OP) they've only been in power for a week! Give em a few years (perhaps even 5) to sort the mess out.

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Originally Posted by Hanley
I'm still hoping they'll tear up the human rights act!!
I think that that would be extremely foolish: because there are many, many protections given to us which could be invaluable in the 'Big State' society thats crept up on us over the last decade.

Its interpretation certainly needs a damned good look at, of course. I believe that its always interpretation that has been the issue.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You betray yourself with that post. Do you really think that we don't fully expect that we will have to endure cuts and a drop in our living standards in order that the country survives the parlous state that your heroes have dropped us into over the 13 years they were in power?

If you are so knowledgeable please tell us what NL would do if they were still in power and what the result would be. This will be your excuse to duck out of a sensible response I imagine.

Les

Just to turn your question around Les, what do you think the Tories would of done differently over the last 13 years, and therefore what sort of state do you think they would have left the economy and public services in?

My suspicion is that VERY LITTLE difference, maybe we would have a slightly smaller deficit but slightly worse public services???

I certainly do not sign up to this 'one side has a great record the others are useless' argument
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
What did Vince Cable say about the amount of skeletons already falling out of the cupboard, scorched earth policy I think his words were....
Poor Vince looks like he ate a turd sitting at his first meeting in Downing Street. Back on topic I think he was also referring to the legit business the last govt bought in new IT software for example. These are not that easy to get out of due to penalty clauses so no savings to be had there. Is their well turning dry? or is it only the unpopular left like VAT/Tax/Petrol/Tobacco/Spirits

As for Gorgeous George this morning he was quick to blame monger by what the last govt had done, as all new govt do. I take it he will be getting rid of the Civil Servents who aided and abetted in the last govt bringing about these so called myths. I think not they will still get their knighthoods!

As for the other 100 Lords the Tories and Libs need or suggested they need, where are they coming from, I thought the Lords was doomed or is this another thing to be dropped as they need to get iffy pledges through.

As for losing quangos read gaining committees, how many committee the new govt formed, I lost count. Will anything ever get done waiting for so called intellects to decide or is the govt devoid of any ideas that they need someone else to suggest a plan already, we are doomed. What does a committee cost is it vfm? I thought the political parties had plans in their manifesto or was that a waste of recycled paper too.

They are all fuds not got a clue any of them, wheres a good dictator when you need one
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Just to turn your question around Les, what do you think the Tories would of done differently over the last 13 years, and therefore what sort of state do you think they would have left the economy and public services in?
This is the whole problem with politics, the opposition will only ever be able to say we would have done it differently, but we will never know what the outcome would have been.
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I think people all too readily forget politicians lie before elections, and then just lie therein (Tenure?).

Look up the literal definition of "politician". You'll see an image of Tony Bliar there too.

Guy Fawkes had the right idea! But I guess with Corro, Dead Enders on TV and takeaways like KFC and McChunders on ever corner the "masses" are comfortable.

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