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Old 21 May 2010, 02:06 PM
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Scares the cr*p out of me (messing with Mother Nature), what do you all think?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyours...sms_do_mo.html

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Old 21 May 2010, 02:53 PM
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Well I am not sure whether they are really producing living cells etc., but the thought of it terrifies me.

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Old 21 May 2010, 02:57 PM
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They certainly are living, manufactured, bacteria cells. Scary! Still, a private, billionare, funding this "reasearch". Even more scary!
Old 21 May 2010, 03:29 PM
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The fact they have done it doesn't bother me. Infact I expected it before now from what I saw of an ex's research.

What does bother me is the application, from here you can quite easily end up at Chimera (MI2), or specifc targeted Bio warfare.
Old 21 May 2010, 03:36 PM
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It is cool though, we have become Gods.

Real Gods, not these made up nonces who fiddle with kids and blow **** up if you eat a bacon sandwich.
Old 21 May 2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
The fact they have done it doesn't bother me. Infact I expected it before now from what I saw of an ex's research.

What does bother me is the application, from here you can quite easily end up at Chimera (MI2), or specifc targeted Bio warfare.
That potential has been available for a while already. It's called DNA.
Old 21 May 2010, 03:57 PM
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If they can make an organism that uses CO2 to produce a fuel we can run cars on then it's all good.
Old 21 May 2010, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
If they can make an organism that uses CO2 to produce a fuel we can run cars on then it's all good.
You've fallen for the "promises" haven't you? How much CO2 do you think there is in the air? And of course, if you "pull" CO2 out of the air you "pull" O2 too. We sort of need that (As well as CO2 to breathe).
Old 21 May 2010, 04:30 PM
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Excites the hell out of me. One guy saying as important as splitting the atom.

Imagine engineering it to destroy cancer cells. Huge potential.

Oh and http://thereprobablyisnt.com/
Old 21 May 2010, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
That potential has been available for a while already. It's called DNA.

Partially, that route involves manipluating an existing cell, this is creation of a new cell.
Old 21 May 2010, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Partially, that route involves manipluating an existing cell, this is creation of a new cell.
True however, my post was in response to a previous post about bio-warfare. Thanks to DNA, bio-weapons targeting is much easier.
Old 21 May 2010, 04:51 PM
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Yeah, post was mine, sorry my bad, trying to explain and post and work didn't work. I accept your point that DNA profile targeting has been around for some time, but would involve manipulating an existing cell, now the tech is around the corner for growing a already cultured cell for bio warfare.
Old 21 May 2010, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Yeah, post was mine, sorry my bad, trying to explain and post and work didn't work. I accept your point that DNA profile targeting has been around for some time, but would involve manipulating an existing cell, now the tech is around the corner for growing a already cultured cell for bio warfare.
Agreed, and THAT is scary. As another postie states, they'd like to see CO2-chomping-fuel-making stuff out of this. I mean, how much CO2 do people think is in the air?
Old 21 May 2010, 05:10 PM
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It's called photsynthesis, and the oxygen is released...

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Old 21 May 2010, 05:13 PM
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"You can't control evolution.
It only takes one of these bacteria to mate with another and you have serious and posibly extinction problems.
Not a good idea."

A quote, and how the ferk is it genetically compatible for the "mating" process....

What mating process you bloody buffoon ?

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Old 21 May 2010, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
"You can't control evolution.
It only takes one of these bacteria to mate with another and you have serious and posibly extinction problems.
Not a good idea."

A quote, and how the ferk is it genetically compatible for the "mating" process....

What mating process you bloody buffoon ?

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Insects have got around that "problem".
Old 21 May 2010, 05:55 PM
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Insects vs bacteria = biology 101 ?

Feckwits !

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Old 21 May 2010, 06:28 PM
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preliminary tests indicate it's more intelligent than Nick Griffin.
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Old 21 May 2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
Insects vs bacteria = biology 101 ?

Feckwits !

dunx
Bacteria can replicate on their own. Insects, usually need a "mate", but there are some that don't and are clones, like tertmites.

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Old 22 May 2010, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
Bacteria can replicate on their own. Insects, usually need a "mate", but there are some that don't and are clones, like tertmites.
You need to explain what you mean by bacteria replicating.

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Old 22 May 2010, 09:34 AM
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The obvious danger of course is a mutation getting loose and becoming a very real killer plague completely out of control. No point in saying it could not happen!

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Old 22 May 2010, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Klaatu
Agreed, and THAT is scary. As another postie states, they'd like to see CO2-chomping-fuel-making stuff out of this. I mean, how much CO2 do people think is in the air?
err...Hello? Have you not heard about the hundreds of millions of tons of co2 being released into the atmosphere every day by a single granny driving her 1.1 clio to the shops? the same co2 that is reducing our ice caps by 100 square miles a second, and raising sea levels by an inch per hour!!!!

In all seriousness i agree with your point, physics states that you cannot get out more than you put in, this must apply to biology aswell.

The thing i don't get is what is everyone worried about? Is it the fear that they create a virus by accident and then it escapes?

Could they use this technology to eventually create a food source? I'm sure everyone has heard of theories of cloning fish or whatever to feed the starving (like in the film the 6th day which is all about cloning) but could the same be done to feed the starving but creating a living organism that were to be eaten rather than cloning?
Old 22 May 2010, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
err...Hello? Have you not heard about the hundreds of millions of tons of co2 being released into the atmosphere every day by a single granny driving her 1.1 clio to the shops? the same co2 that is reducing our ice caps by 100 square miles a second, and raising sea levels by an inch per hour!!!!

In all seriousness i agree with your point, physics states that you cannot get out more than you put in, this must apply to biology aswell.

The thing i don't get is what is everyone worried about? Is it the fear that they create a virus by accident and then it escapes?

Could they use this technology to eventually create a food source? I'm sure everyone has heard of theories of cloning fish or whatever to feed the starving (like in the film the 6th day which is all about cloning) but could the same be done to feed the starving but creating a living organism that were to be eaten rather than cloning?
You don't read all the posts then!

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Old 22 May 2010, 12:27 PM
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The initial stages of by far the coolest thing humans ever did..
Sponsored by "evil" corporations ? Which inventions of global importance wasnt, isnt ?
Old 23 May 2010, 01:10 AM
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Pandoras box! Mother Nature moves very slowly & "bad" stuff gets deleted by evolution yet something like this can happen overnight in relative terms ... I'm worried about unknown short & long term effects

TX.

Originally Posted by subaruturbo_18
The thing i don't get is what is everyone worried about? Is it the fear that they create a virus by accident and then it escapes?
Old 23 May 2010, 08:11 AM
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Can't help feeling that it is unwise to meddle with nature in such a way.

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I can't help but feel that it's fear of the unknown that's being expressed here, rather than fear of the exact technology and procedures that have been developed.

How many of you are qualified to fully understand what has been done, and are therefore able to assess what the risks are?
Old 23 May 2010, 08:57 AM
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I am not ever so well qualified at being in major car smashes, but the idea still bothers me!

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Originally Posted by Leslie
The obvious danger of course is a mutation getting loose and becoming a very real killer plague completely out of control. No point in saying it could not happen!

Les
stephen king wrote about this many years ago. modern day prophet if you ask me. where's the walking dude?
Old 23 May 2010, 01:09 PM
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How many people oppose this but are for the L.H.C.?


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