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Old 24 August 2010, 11:33 PM
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Just wondering how far along the spectrum (of home improvements) that one needs to obtain planning permission ?

eg scale 1-10, where 1 is negliable, where 10 is full blown big time change.

eg scale 01 - paint a wall
eg scale 02 - replace a bathroom sink
eg scale 10 - extend house 50% , with a 2 story extension

So in general terms where does it kick in ?
General Terms Only, btw.

Thx.
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Most external stuff will need PP ie structural alterations or additions. Internal stuff will mostly be OK albeit some might need Building Regs ie new boilers etc. It's not done on a scale fella you either need PP or you don't (yes / no answer).

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I guess, new boilers due to potential gas leaks ?
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You can't get general like that, you either need planning permission or you don't and there are many factors that influence that. The best way is to always check with your local authority.

For example, in some situations you can add a fairly substantial extension or outbuilding and not require planning permission. In others you need premission to paint your front door or make an internal alteration (although that isn't planning permission, that would be listed building consent).
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Originally Posted by velohead66
Just wondering how far along the spectrum (of home improvements) that one needs to obtain planning permission ?

eg scale 1-10, where 1 is negliable, where 10 is full blown big time change.

eg scale 01 - paint a wall
eg scale 02 - replace a bathroom sink
eg scale 10 - extend house 50% , with a 2 story extension

So in general terms where does it kick in ?
General Terms Only, btw.

Thx.
In general terms - somewhere between 2 and 10 HTH .

ps Listen to Saxo Boy - he worked in planning before leaving that to be a poker player - bet he was fun in meetings trying to see if he was going to grant permission or not

What he doesn't know about planning is more that made up with what he does know about lift off over steer (or was it power surges)

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It's all here:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...c/tools/house/

The interactive thing is pretty good. If it's something structural get plans drawn up and email them to your local planning office to ask if it needs permission or is okay under permitted development rights. They are usually pretty helpful and will give an answer one way or another. Keep a record and then you can use this is every anybody contests it.
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Thanks for the replies, I get the drift on PP, now.
The house is not 'listed' so that keeps things more general.
At least I know where to go for advice about lift off over steer, LOL.


Still dont know why Boilers are so special - it must be to do with Carbon Monoxide ???
Or Gas leaks ???
But surely that would be Compliance (after installation), rather than PP ???

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There's quite a few things that need Building Regs approval (not PP) such as boilers etc. New windows, for example, would need Building Regs approval too ...

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng.../buildingregs/

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Originally Posted by Terminator X
There's quite a few things that need Building Regs approval (not PP) such as boilers etc. New windows, for example, would need Building Regs approval too ...

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng.../buildingregs/

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Yep - I think this is where OP is getting confused, but given his other thread on covenants, maybe he needs to hire SaxoBoy as a consultant
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Ooops, boilers was Bldg Regs Approval, not PP.

so really it's about Health & Safety, and CO2 emmissions.

from the above url........."needs Building Regulations approval because of the safety issues and the need for energy efficiency"

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...boilerheating/
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seems ludicrous re the windows.....

from same site....

"Since 1 April 2002 building regulations have applied to all replacement glazing. The regulations apply to thermal performance and other areas such as safety, air supply, means of escape and ventilation"

maybe if there is poor air supply, people will die as they sleep, due to lack of Oxygen ???
I guess "thermal performance" again points to CO2 ???
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C02 emissions and energy efficiency are not one and the same. I don't believe for a second in the man made global warming scenario, but I do agree with building regs that make you build a house is that is economically and energy efficient. Eventualy we will run out of oil, so if we build houses that need less oil to function, then that 'eventually' might be a few years further away
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FENSA registered glaziers can self certificate their work, without the need to go through building control. It is VERY important that windows meet building regs, unless you want a three year old running though a sheet of non toughened glass, or you burn to death in your house due to lack of egress hinges. The other requirements are less important but are pretty much standard these days anyway.

If you are a leaseholder or live in any kind of listed/protected area you will more than likely need to gain permission to have them changed, and will need to be in keeping with surrounding properties.
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Originally Posted by velohead66
Just wondering how far along the spectrum (of home improvements) that one needs to obtain planning permission ?

eg scale 1-10, where 1 is negliable, where 10 is full blown big time change.

eg scale 01 - paint a wall
eg scale 02 - replace a bathroom sink
eg scale 10 - extend house 50% , with a 2 story extension

So in general terms where does it kick in ?
General Terms Only, btw.

Thx.
check with your local authority to get the correct answer. If your house is a listed building then internal work will need to be liased with the local authority.
Old 02 September 2010, 04:51 AM
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no, the house is not listed.


OK, I was being devil's advocate (as per usual) but I can see that the regs are important.
Thanks for your answers, guys.
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