DCI Gene Hunt

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Here's a typical owner....


..... I hear a lot of "It's the deed not the breed" trouble is that it's always "the same breeds doing the deeds".....

stilover

Humans kill more than dogs do.

Humans attack other humans more than dogs do.

Humans attack other animals more than dogs do.

Maybe on this evidence we should ban humans?

Leslie

It is undeniably true that some breeds are more likely to attack a human than others, irrespective of all the other factors.

les

krisando

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Ive got a labrador x rottweiler, who is 6 yrs old. We have only had him for a month after rescuing from a split family who couldnt look after him any more. Hes great round our kids and other people, but scared of other dogs as he was attacked. Its the way the owners treat the dogs that makes them turn, and like staffies, blame the coneheads who own them, not the dog. Heres a pic of our dog, Rocky:

richieh

Spot on except that those breeds are sheepdogs, labs and jrts but they just dont sell papers
cheers richie

Luminous

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I think I'm going to get myself a pet Tiger. After all its not the breed that makes them dangerous, its how i will treat it that will determine its temperament. I'll ensure that I give it lots of cuddles and loads love, it will be fine around kids. No worries

krisando

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That was almost funny! Everyone knows that a dogs behaviour is reflected on how it is treated by its owners. Our dog is brilliant with everyone, and really placid. So through his life he has been well looked after and brought up correctly. All the dogs that attack, have either been neglected in some form or mis-treated by thier owners, causing a violent and nasty change in the dogs behaviour.

You cant just single out dogs by thier breed, the owners will have to realise the consequences of their actions.

Aint being picky or wanting to start an arguement but as my dog is a lab x rotty, just trying to make my point.

Pjamie

All dogs are potentially dangerous, and large dogs like rotweillers are dangerous if they do attack - particulalry rotweillers due to their jaw musculature where the muscle wraps over their skull for massive biting power.

"Its the deed not the breed" may sound like a cliche, but it's absolutely true. Poorly socialized dogs, those owned by people who get them as status symbols, or badly trained dogs are always going to be worrying and potentially very dangerous, and the bigger they are the most dangerous they are.

As a lab owner I can say that I've never met a bad rotweiller yet - and I've met a few - when out for walks, and I've only met one aggressive staffy but that was on a lead and muzzled so at least the owner was responsible. All the rottweillers I've met have been gentle giants, extremely patient, with no signs of aggression even when they meet my intact male for the first time. I've seem much more aggressive JRTs, Westies, and Border Terriers, but terriers as a group were bred to be aggressive due to the jobs they were bred for.

I'm not making excuses for dangerous dogs as I believe that dangerous dogs should be destroyed, but saying a whole breed it dangerous because of some irresponsible owners is unfair to the majority of owners whose dogs don't pose any danger.

krisando

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Couldnt agree more.

Leslie

Yes I agree about the way they are brought up, and have you noticed that it is very much the same for children!

Nevertheless, however well they are trained, some breeds will be more likely to lose it than others.

Les

Pjamie

Good luck with that!

The biggest problem you'll find is that cats are solitary animals, not pack animals like dogs, so are unlikely to recognize pack hierarchy which is the basis of much of the training and socialisation that is essential for happy and healthy dogs. They also don't have the several thousand years of selective breeding, domestication, and interaction with humans which have bred out some of the more aggressive and dangerous wolf-like behaviour.

Training a cat is a completely different thing altogether with a different psychology. That's why cat owners aren't deemed to be responsible for what their cats do (never mind a wild animal). Just make sure you keep your medical and life insurance up to date when you get your tiger as you'll definitely need it.

DYK

It said rogue dogs,any responsible dog owner wouldn't let these type of dogs loose to roam the streets.I don't see why putting these dogs down Authorities thinks it solves the problem because it doesn't,it starts with the owner and it just seems now a days that anyone is just having these type of dogs without knowing anything about them...

Aaron1978

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Ok not a Tiger, but you get the idea that again it depends on it's upbringing.
It has been posted on Snet before but i always think of it when people try to argue that it's the breed not the upbringing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOLqVshIM4w

Lee247

Well, I really needed a good cry at this time of the day. Thanks for that, Aaron

Lisawrx

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Well at least I wasn't the only one.

Aaron1978

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sorry about that Lee. It is a tear jerker

Lee247

Nope, and I've got to go to the shops. I'll kill him

Luminous

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My point was slightly argumentative, but there is a big point in there somewhere. All animals can be prone to doing something out of the ordinary. The difference, as has been said many times before, is that when a poodle goes apesh1t all you get are nibbled ankles.

Yes, upbringing is really important. But why on earth do we allow idiots to have access to breeds of dogs that are so dangerous when not brought up correctly. Dogs that have the potential to be so dangerous have no place on our streets. Maybe some sort of licensing scheme could be brought in that makes owners prove their suitability to have a dangerous dog, but otherwise I really do not think these animals have a place in our society.

I'm really sorry if that upsets people, and I am not for one second suggesting that we cart off your beloved pets to the vets and get them put to sleep. Lets just neuter all these dangerous breeds and allow them to expire naturally from our streets. There are so many other breeds of dogs that you could have and love as a pet. You don't need something that can do so much damage if they have an off day.

Luminous

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meh

Aaron1978

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You'll kill me Should you be on the dangerous woman's register

DYK

LOL i was running in the woods a couple of weeks back,and this little black thing jumped out at me from the bushes,i thought **** it's a big rat or something,but no it wasn't a rat it was one of them little ankle biting dogs,so here it was barking at me and charging at my feet and then retreating.I was about to do something but then the owner came running along the track and it ran off,don't know what breed it was the little Barstard..

Alg

You contradict yourself.

Bubba po

I think there should be a dangerous breeds amnesty, where you can take them into a police station and get them melted down.

richieh

Les no disrespect intended(in fact quite the opposite) but have you had any experience of rotties at all? Same goes for the O.P. as well.
If you had you would realise that they are as a breed gentle giants that will take massive provocation before even reacting-unfortunatly they are also doting on their owners so if said owners want them 'tough' they will do it just to please.
The problem also is that they are powerful so when they bite they can potentialy do a lot of damage especially on a child.
Another major problem is that a rottie or other powerful dog bite will make the news other 'mainstream' dogs will not.
suprising link(mind you i always remember a right nasty sausage dog that lived in my street when i was a little 'un) http://www.dogbiteclaims.co.uk/dog-a...ive-breed.html
cheers richie
cheers richie

DCI Gene Hunt

I have also had no 'experience' of great white sharks, but I'd equally avoid swimming with them....












.......oh, I'm sorry..... could you make your point again? I was busy being distracted by all these pictures of Rottweiler attack victims....

tony de wonderful

Nothing a shotgun won't sort out.

trell

You cant blame the dogs it the owners who have not brought the animals up correctly i could waste my time putting pictures up of humans that have injured other people but its not needed, Stop trying to blame ****e on the pets!!

I kno people with rotties and there soft as brushes you can do what you like to them and they dont even lift an eye brow!

End of the day it has been said that the media explodes this out off preportion and as gullible british citizens we all beleive it!

Jamz3k

I hate rottweilers and having been bitten by one in its owners company, i'd say they are quite uncontrollable and shouldn't be in the hands of amature dog handlers. These dogs don't deserve to be banned but they do deserve to be handled in a way that is accustomed to their attitudes. A owner should have to go through a certified training and hold some sort of license that not only shows they have the ability to care of the animal but have complete liability over it along with spot checks on owner and dog to check its well being.

I don't believe these dogs should be taken out into public either unless wearing a muzzle.

howellsy42

ive got two rotties one four and the other is 26 weeks they are father and son and your all right mine are currently running round th garden trying to kill my three ferrets that are running lose oh wait hold on ive got that wrong oh the ferrets are chasing them and there running away from them quite funny to watch

Myles

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Jack Russells are little sh1tbags, all of them.