What relevance does the Pope's State Visit have to a modern post religious Britain?
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What relevance does the Pope's State Visit have to a modern post religious Britain?
Personally I feel proud to live in a country not overly influenced by clerics and religious doctrine
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
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What I find a bit annoying is that there have been numerous documentaries, press articles and open letters denouncing the pope and the Catholic churches stance on moral issues.
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
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Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
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What I find a bit annoying is that there have been numerous documentaries, press articles and open letters denouncing the pope and the Catholic churches stance on moral issues.
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
Steve
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
Steve
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Well today the pope's aide called the UK a third world country
A bit rich coming from the world's biggest peado club !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11317441
A bit rich coming from the world's biggest peado club !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11317441
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What I find a bit annoying is that there have been numerous documentaries, press articles and open letters denouncing the pope and the Catholic churches stance on moral issues.
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
Steve
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
Steve
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It is a very large and rich cult based on myth and legend like all religions and this one seems to have a lot of paedo priests in it. What relevance does the Pope's State Visit have to a modern post religious Britain? Not much, and as we aren't living in the dark ages, people should live for the here and now and look out for each other rather than squabbling over stupid made-up beliefs.
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BTW my sisters in-laws are devout Catholics, they are amazing people who do so much in their community, they are not retarded, they are good people who care.
I would argue that they'd be good people without the church, but retarded they certainly are not
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Well it's mainly the poor, those without education and children, something for us all to celebrate
BTW my sisters in-laws are devout Catholics, they are amazing people who do so much in their community, they are not retarded, they are good people who care.
I would argue that they'd be good people without the church, but retarded they certainly are not
BTW my sisters in-laws are devout Catholics, they are amazing people who do so much in their community, they are not retarded, they are good people who care.
I would argue that they'd be good people without the church, but retarded they certainly are not
If your sisters are against the use of condoms in Africa because of catholic "beliefs" - then they are retarded - no matter how good you think they might be - hth
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Martin, I was just giving an example of a head of state with some rather extreme views. I agree, I hope if he visited, he would be given a rough ride.
I seem to remember the last Chinese Chairman to visit had a good reception...till the police vans were parked in front of the demonstrators.
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I seem to remember the last Chinese Chairman to visit had a good reception...till the police vans were parked in front of the demonstrators.
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Martin, I was just giving an example of a head of state with some rather extreme views. I agree, I hope if he visited, he would be given a rough ride.
I seem to remember the last Chinese Chairman to visit had a good reception...till the police vans were parked in front of the demonstrators.
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I seem to remember the last Chinese Chairman to visit had a good reception...till the police vans were parked in front of the demonstrators.
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Agree with your actual point tho - relgion should have no influence on the laws and rules this country abides by. Things should be based on fact and reason, not myth and tradition.
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What I find a bit annoying is that there have been numerous documentaries, press articles and open letters denouncing the pope and the Catholic churches stance on moral issues.
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
Steve
Would the same left leaning media criticise Islam in the same manner? I don't see mainstream Islam embracing contraception, homosexuality or abortion.
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Catholicism is an easy target basically. Islam is give a faux-respect even though most 'moderates' are anti-gay and anti-women, and I'm not talking about just opposition to 'gay marriage' but an open antipathy.
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If ever there was a time to come clean and admit they just made it all up - it was when this kid wrote to the pope.
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/197701-p...cancer-victim/
Wonder if his parents will stop him going to hospital once he's had a papal blessing
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/197701-p...cancer-victim/
Wonder if his parents will stop him going to hospital once he's had a papal blessing
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Personally I feel proud to live in a country not overly influenced by clerics and religious doctrine
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
as do some of the pope's beer buddies http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...t-aide-dropped I wonder if he said that before, during or after sodomising a choirboy
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If ever there was a time to come clean and admit they just made it all up - it was when this kid wrote to the pope.
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/197701-p...cancer-victim/
Wonder if his parents will stop him going to hospital once he's had a papal blessing
http://news.stv.tv/scotland/197701-p...cancer-victim/
Wonder if his parents will stop him going to hospital once he's had a papal blessing
Steve
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Personally I feel proud to live in a country not overly influenced by clerics and religious doctrine
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
I do view Catholicism and its followers with a certain bewilderment sometimes, especially the conservative illiberal strand which has held sway for far too long, but it's their choice so I hope they enjoy his visit
Have you started drinking?
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Could be that closet, right wing, xenophobe Martin is finally coming out of that closet.
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