self-cracking glass??!!
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self-cracking glass??!!
I have a flat that i let out and recently went around to carry out a 6 month inspection as the letting agent recommends. My tenant is keeping the flat tidy but happened to mention that there was a crack in the bedroom window and she didnt know how it happened?!
The crack runs from the top of the indoor pane (double glazing) to the bottom with no apparant impact mark
Is it possible that it could of somehow happened by itself ( the flat can get hot as its south facing and tenants away quite often so windows shut alot of the time)? The flat is about 3 years old.
I said that i would sort it but thinking about it, i dont want to pay to have it repaired if shes trying to pull a fast one!
Would go through insurance but excess is £250, so pointless.
Should she pay??
The crack runs from the top of the indoor pane (double glazing) to the bottom with no apparant impact mark
Is it possible that it could of somehow happened by itself ( the flat can get hot as its south facing and tenants away quite often so windows shut alot of the time)? The flat is about 3 years old.
I said that i would sort it but thinking about it, i dont want to pay to have it repaired if shes trying to pull a fast one!
Would go through insurance but excess is £250, so pointless.
Should she pay??
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Yes, glass can break for no apparent reason. With no impact mark you can't prove its her that has caused it. So I'd say stump up the excess.
Scoobywon't. I'm a tenant, and I'd give you hell if you tried that.
Scoobywon't. I'm a tenant, and I'd give you hell if you tried that.
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Actually, i was thinking about taking out of her deposit money. Will talk to her about it and maybe we can go halves if nothing else!
Scoobynewbie- i will check to see if theres any movement cracks, could be a possibility.
Thanks for the replies.
Scoobynewbie- i will check to see if theres any movement cracks, could be a possibility.
Thanks for the replies.
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With the amount of double glazing unit/frames I seen that are fitted so badly the glass is visually warping, it could have been due to that with some added hot/cold heat cycles and then "crack".
Glass is weird stuff, its not solid, nor is it liquid.
Is it the opening pane that broke or a fixed one? Obviously the one that opens is flexed and handled alot more than a fixed one, so prone to being damaged by someone being a bit heavy handed. Still, it shouldn't happen even if it was slammed repeatedly by a gorilla.
Glass is weird stuff, its not solid, nor is it liquid.
Is it the opening pane that broke or a fixed one? Obviously the one that opens is flexed and handled alot more than a fixed one, so prone to being damaged by someone being a bit heavy handed. Still, it shouldn't happen even if it was slammed repeatedly by a gorilla.
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had it happen to me when i lived in barrack block sat watching tv and the window about 4ft away from my grid went pop s**t myself outside pane was fine inside completly shatterd lucky it was safty glass still got billed £90 as no one beleived me
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How big is the window that has cracked, you might be surprised at how cheap it is to just get the sealed units replaced by a local glazier.
If it were me, I would suggest that the tenant to go halves with the replacement, I doubt any decent tenant would refuse tbh.
If it were me, I would suggest that the tenant to go halves with the replacement, I doubt any decent tenant would refuse tbh.
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The cost of replacing a single glazed unit should be much less than your excess, so not worth troubling your insurers.
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My local glass supplier charges only £15 for a sealed unit to customer dimensions for area up to one third of a square metre, increasing after that as size goes up. Hardly worth arguing about.
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sounds harsh to be charging the tenant - you'd have to hit a double glazed window bloody hard, and with something very sharp, to crack it. Much more likely it was fitted badly - why take it out on your tenant?
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With the amount of double glazing unit/frames I seen that are fitted so badly the glass is visually warping, it could have been due to that with some added hot/cold heat cycles and then "crack".
Glass is weird stuff, its not solid, nor is it liquid.
Is it the opening pane that broke or a fixed one? Obviously the one that opens is flexed and handled alot more than a fixed one, so prone to being damaged by someone being a bit heavy handed. Still, it shouldn't happen even if it was slammed repeatedly by a gorilla.
Glass is weird stuff, its not solid, nor is it liquid.
Is it the opening pane that broke or a fixed one? Obviously the one that opens is flexed and handled alot more than a fixed one, so prone to being damaged by someone being a bit heavy handed. Still, it shouldn't happen even if it was slammed repeatedly by a gorilla.
Up at the in-laws recently and was outside getting stuff out of the car. Looked at next doors front window and there was something odd about it. Finally realised that it was flexing back and forth (windy day so obviously draughts in the house!) and the 'funny effect' was the reflections changing as it flexed. Double glazing as well. So I'd say it's a good chance it wasn't the tenant. And as you can't actually prove it I'd say 'take the hit and repair the window'.
Dave - currently a tenant who wouldn't be very happy if the landlord tried that one on me!
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This happened to one of our windows a while back, it went off with an almighty bang in the middle of the night, inner pane cracked from top to bottom and outer pane was fine. Ours was replaced free as the windows were only a couple of months old but the glazer said it would usually cost about £30.
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Sounds to me like shes a canny tenant, keeps the place tidy and isnt even there much... I'd try and keep her sweet, instead of p*ssing her off, her leaving and you being stuck with a property up for rent for a couple month before you can get a new tenant, loosing out on ££££'s in the meantime and the next one will wont be so tidy and problies burn the place to the ground.
Decent tenants are a canny rare thing these days.
Plus as said, the deposit will be tied up in a legally bound account that you cant touch without her say so.
Decent tenants are a canny rare thing these days.
Plus as said, the deposit will be tied up in a legally bound account that you cant touch without her say so.
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and they would be right - glass is an "amorphous" solid
http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869A/CH...en/florin.html
http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869A/CH...en/florin.html
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Sounds to me like shes a canny tenant, keeps the place tidy and isnt even there much... I'd try and keep her sweet, instead of p*ssing her off, her leaving and you being stuck with a property up for rent for a couple month before you can get a new tenant, loosing out on ££££'s in the meantime and the next one will wont be so tidy and problies burn the place to the ground.
Decent tenants are a canny rare thing these days.
Plus as said, the deposit will be tied up in a legally bound account that you cant touch without her say so.
Decent tenants are a canny rare thing these days.
Plus as said, the deposit will be tied up in a legally bound account that you cant touch without her say so.
If you pursue the claim and pee her off, so she leaves, how many weeks lost rental will it take to make it worth while. Easy answer - virtually None.
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and they would be right - glass is an "amorphous" solid
http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869A/CH...en/florin.html
http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869A/CH...en/florin.html
Well, I was taken in by the 'scientist' whose 16th C house I was painting at the time and fed me the old 'antique glass' myth.
The bastid.
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i think it just displays some of the properties of a fluid i.e. it flows, as no doubt you saw at the house you were painting
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Yes, all the windows with the original glass in them (small 'Georgian ' type panes) were much thicker at the bottom, as if the glass had slumped over the years.
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I treat my tenants very well -- as soon as they have a problem, no quibble it gets sorted
I have had the same tenants for the past 14 years (cumulative) -- mind you they have paid a small fortune in rent over that time
I suspect, in general, landords get the tenants they deserve!!
I treat my tenants very well -- as soon as they have a problem, no quibble it gets sorted
I have had the same tenants for the past 14 years (cumulative) -- mind you they have paid a small fortune in rent over that time
I suspect, in general, landords get the tenants they deserve!!