How did he get away with this ?
31 October 2010, 04:01 PM
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wrong but how old was it, it looked like it was set in the 70's?
Obviously if it was then I would imagine the times were a little safer and things were not as scary as they are now.
Obviously if it was then I would imagine the times were a little safer and things were not as scary as they are now.
31 October 2010, 05:14 PM
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Kill Him
Paedos cannot be rehabilitated, they are cold, calculating pieces of filth that should be shot on sight!
Paedos cannot be rehabilitated, they are cold, calculating pieces of filth that should be shot on sight!
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31 October 2010, 05:45 PM
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Creepy as hell to watch now....but he's not necessarily interested in young girls/children. We are talking about a completely different time before many of us were even born.
Simply put, things have changed massively in the last 10-20 years. For example, we have friends with a 3yo who I adore and love to bits. But I always feel a little uncomfortable when they tell her to give me a kiss when we are leaving. She always goes for the lips (because she was taught to) and I feel uneasy because media conditioning throughout my 20's-30's has forced me to believe that any form of contact like that makes you a predatory paedophile.
It is a very sad state of affairs, but I can't help the uneasiness that I feel. I normally turn a cheek to her and make a joke about how boys think kisses are icky, etc.
....and if you don't believe me that climates have changed then those in your 30's or older cast your mind back to what would happen if you misbehaved as a kid in front of your neighbour.... I remember my neighbour giving me a hiding for kicking his fence down. I told me dad what happened, and he gave me another hiding for upsetting the neighbour by kicking his fence down. These days 99.999% of parents would call the police and a court case would result.
Simply put, things have changed massively in the last 10-20 years. For example, we have friends with a 3yo who I adore and love to bits. But I always feel a little uncomfortable when they tell her to give me a kiss when we are leaving. She always goes for the lips (because she was taught to) and I feel uneasy because media conditioning throughout my 20's-30's has forced me to believe that any form of contact like that makes you a predatory paedophile.
It is a very sad state of affairs, but I can't help the uneasiness that I feel. I normally turn a cheek to her and make a joke about how boys think kisses are icky, etc.
....and if you don't believe me that climates have changed then those in your 30's or older cast your mind back to what would happen if you misbehaved as a kid in front of your neighbour.... I remember my neighbour giving me a hiding for kicking his fence down. I told me dad what happened, and he gave me another hiding for upsetting the neighbour by kicking his fence down. These days 99.999% of parents would call the police and a court case would result.
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31 October 2010, 05:55 PM
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This is all true, but I had to stop watching. Just made me shudder watching him cuddle up to those kids. 
Creepy as hell to watch now....but he's not necessarily interested in young girls/children. We are talking about a completely different time before many of us were even born.
Simply put, things have changed massively in the last 10-20 years. For example, we have friends with a 3yo who I adore and love to bits. But I always feel a little uncomfortable when they tell her to give me a kiss when we are leaving. She always goes for the lips (because she was taught to) and I feel uneasy because media conditioning throughout my 20's-30's has forced me to believe that any form of contact like that makes you a predatory paedophile.
It is a very sad state of affairs, but I can't help the uneasiness that I feel. I normally turn a cheek to her and make a joke about how boys think kisses are icky, etc.
....and if you don't believe me that climates have changed then those in your 30's or older cast your mind back to what would happen if you misbehaved as a kid in front of your neighbour.... I remember my neighbour giving me a hiding for kicking his fence down. I told me dad what happened, and he gave me another hiding for upsetting the neighbour by kicking his fence down. These days 99.999% of parents would call the police and a court case would result.
Simply put, things have changed massively in the last 10-20 years. For example, we have friends with a 3yo who I adore and love to bits. But I always feel a little uncomfortable when they tell her to give me a kiss when we are leaving. She always goes for the lips (because she was taught to) and I feel uneasy because media conditioning throughout my 20's-30's has forced me to believe that any form of contact like that makes you a predatory paedophile.
It is a very sad state of affairs, but I can't help the uneasiness that I feel. I normally turn a cheek to her and make a joke about how boys think kisses are icky, etc.
....and if you don't believe me that climates have changed then those in your 30's or older cast your mind back to what would happen if you misbehaved as a kid in front of your neighbour.... I remember my neighbour giving me a hiding for kicking his fence down. I told me dad what happened, and he gave me another hiding for upsetting the neighbour by kicking his fence down. These days 99.999% of parents would call the police and a court case would result.
31 October 2010, 07:17 PM
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As I said, me too.... but how much of that is because of changing attitudes over the last 20 years ago. Would your average person cringe at this 20-30 years ago? Obviously not, otherwise it wouldn't have been broadcast surely.
Most adults are probably scared of children these days...I know I am. I'd rather be a bin man than be a teacher, church helper, scout master or have anything to do with children that are not my own. Sad times, really.
Most adults are probably scared of children these days...I know I am. I'd rather be a bin man than be a teacher, church helper, scout master or have anything to do with children that are not my own. Sad times, really.
31 October 2010, 09:22 PM
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Scary that ...... but, it is correct what has been stated above - times were different.
I used to get shot at by farmers, they used to set their dogs on me!!
I got chased by Police on many occassions .... on foot, on my motorbike and in my early cars ....
If I got caught I would get a slapping - but would never tell my dad as I would get another slapping for getting a slapping in the first place!!
Not saying it was right then, a lot of 'stuff' went on because kids wouldn't tell tales, but it is how it was.
Overall, kids are safer these days - yet given much less freedom, which is a sad state of affairs
How many 20 somethings do you meet who haven't a clue about life, the world, the truth? I call them 'wet-behind-the-ears' ...... but, it goes deeper than that - they are weird (for example, thinking the Internet is real life!!!
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I used to get shot at by farmers, they used to set their dogs on me!!
I got chased by Police on many occassions .... on foot, on my motorbike and in my early cars ....
If I got caught I would get a slapping - but would never tell my dad as I would get another slapping for getting a slapping in the first place!!
Not saying it was right then, a lot of 'stuff' went on because kids wouldn't tell tales, but it is how it was.
Overall, kids are safer these days - yet given much less freedom, which is a sad state of affairs
How many 20 somethings do you meet who haven't a clue about life, the world, the truth? I call them 'wet-behind-the-ears' ...... but, it goes deeper than that - they are weird (for example, thinking the Internet is real life!!!
)
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Scary that ...... but, it is correct what has been stated above - times were different.
I used to get shot at by farmers, they used to set their dogs on me!!
I got chased by Police on many occassions .... on foot, on my motorbike and in my early cars ....
If I got caught I would get a slapping - but would never tell my dad as I would get another slapping for getting a slapping in the first place!!
Not saying it was right then, a lot of 'stuff' went on because kids wouldn't tell tales, but it is how it was.
Overall, kids are safer these days - yet given much less freedom, which is a sad state of affairs
How many 20 somethings do you meet who haven't a clue about life, the world, the truth? I call them 'wet-behind-the-ears' ...... but, it goes deeper than that - they are weird (for example, thinking the Internet is real life!!!)
I used to get shot at by farmers, they used to set their dogs on me!!
I got chased by Police on many occassions .... on foot, on my motorbike and in my early cars ....
If I got caught I would get a slapping - but would never tell my dad as I would get another slapping for getting a slapping in the first place!!
Not saying it was right then, a lot of 'stuff' went on because kids wouldn't tell tales, but it is how it was.
Overall, kids are safer these days - yet given much less freedom, which is a sad state of affairs
How many 20 somethings do you meet who haven't a clue about life, the world, the truth? I call them 'wet-behind-the-ears' ...... but, it goes deeper than that - they are weird (for example, thinking the Internet is real life!!!
)Maybe there were fewer paedophiles around or less of that kind of shameful behaviour at least. Most people would be shocked at the thought that happening to a child then. Almost unheard of.
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Simply put, things have changed massively in the last 10-20 years. For example, we have friends with a 3yo who I adore and love to bits. But I always feel a little uncomfortable when they tell her to give me a kiss when we are leaving. She always goes for the lips (because she was taught to) and I feel uneasy because media conditioning throughout my 20's-30's has forced me to believe that any form of contact like that makes you a predatory paedophile.
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Edit - oops, read full post & seen that is what you do
parents shouldn't encourage that IMHO
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01 November 2010, 02:03 PM
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Edit noted terminator.....
....but your pre-edit stance sort of proves my point. Having a 3yo give a close friend a peck on the lips just wasnt an issue a decade or two ago.
And I am not sure it should be an issue now...
As I said in my post I believe my uneasy feelings on the matter derive from media conditioning and general public attitudes. As regards the child in question, I love her to bits...almost as if she were my own. If something happened to her parents tomorrow, my wife and I would happily step in and raise her as our own. I think it is (wrong/a shame/disappointing/?) that I feel uneasy when she is affectionate. But I do, and I doubt that will ever change. In fact, I expect my "fear" of children will only grow as I get older. Teachers et al must be nuts to put themselves in such vulnerable positions.
....but your pre-edit stance sort of proves my point. Having a 3yo give a close friend a peck on the lips just wasnt an issue a decade or two ago.
And I am not sure it should be an issue now...
As I said in my post I believe my uneasy feelings on the matter derive from media conditioning and general public attitudes. As regards the child in question, I love her to bits...almost as if she were my own. If something happened to her parents tomorrow, my wife and I would happily step in and raise her as our own. I think it is (wrong/a shame/disappointing/?) that I feel uneasy when she is affectionate. But I do, and I doubt that will ever change. In fact, I expect my "fear" of children will only grow as I get older. Teachers et al must be nuts to put themselves in such vulnerable positions.
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01 November 2010, 02:11 PM
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It's quite correct though isn't it? You've got levels of contact (a) parents (b) close family (c) friends (d) strangers. A stranger should behave significantly different to a child vs the parents.
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01 November 2010, 02:22 PM
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Totally, but in my situation I am close family friend. I keep the boundaries to a cuddle, peck on the cheek and always within the supervision of the parents.
However, I think that represents a significant shift in the last decade or two. As I said, we are close enough that I would gladly raise this child and would never once resent the fact. 20 years ago an adult with such a relationship with a child would happily be affectionate and do things with the kid unsupervised. For example, I remember going swimming with my friend and his dad a lot when I was a kid because he was a close neighbour to my parents. (he was always appropriate before anyone starts!)
However, as much as a love the child and her parents I would flat refuse to take her swimming (or something of that nature) if her parents asked me. I don't think I would even look after her on my own. It isn't because I don't trust the child, the parents or myself. I just wouldn't take the risk because society is itching to label everyone a paedo.
I guess my point is this:
In our attempts to protect children from genuine predators we have created a situation where genuine caring adults are terrified to interact with children.
However, I guess if that is the way it has to be to keep children safe; then that is the way it has to be.
However, I think that represents a significant shift in the last decade or two. As I said, we are close enough that I would gladly raise this child and would never once resent the fact. 20 years ago an adult with such a relationship with a child would happily be affectionate and do things with the kid unsupervised. For example, I remember going swimming with my friend and his dad a lot when I was a kid because he was a close neighbour to my parents. (he was always appropriate before anyone starts!)
However, as much as a love the child and her parents I would flat refuse to take her swimming (or something of that nature) if her parents asked me. I don't think I would even look after her on my own. It isn't because I don't trust the child, the parents or myself. I just wouldn't take the risk because society is itching to label everyone a paedo.
I guess my point is this:
In our attempts to protect children from genuine predators we have created a situation where genuine caring adults are terrified to interact with children.
However, I guess if that is the way it has to be to keep children safe; then that is the way it has to be.