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08 January 2011, 11:00 AM
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Twitter is being ordered by the US government via the courts to hand over all Tweets relating to the Wikileaks exposure of US government cables including names, addresses and personal details of who made them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12141530
Twitter has always pointed out that it complies with all local laws etc. but has also prided itself on being a place for frank and open exchanges.
If it now complies with the order how many people are going to feel comfortable about using it.
I stay away from FB and Twitter and the likes for other reasons, but I am not sure I would be too happy about them handing my details over just because I had said something in a Wikileaks discussion.
Of course there is no real difference between them and Scoobynet except that SN is less likely to be subpoenaed by the US government I guess.... espcially given its broadly right wing demographic... more likely they would give the place a pat on the back
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12141530
Twitter has always pointed out that it complies with all local laws etc. but has also prided itself on being a place for frank and open exchanges.
If it now complies with the order how many people are going to feel comfortable about using it.
I stay away from FB and Twitter and the likes for other reasons, but I am not sure I would be too happy about them handing my details over just because I had said something in a Wikileaks discussion.
Of course there is no real difference between them and Scoobynet except that SN is less likely to be subpoenaed by the US government I guess.... espcially given its broadly right wing demographic... more likely they would give the place a pat on the back
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Twitter is being ordered by the US government via the courts to hand over all Tweets relating to the Wikileaks exposure of US government cables including names, addresses and personal details of who made them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12141530
Twitter has always pointed out that it complies with all local laws etc. but has also prided itself on being a place for frank and open exchanges.
If it now complies with the order how many people are going to feel comfortable about using it.
I stay away from FB and Twitter and the likes for other reasons, but I am not sure I would be too happy about them handing my details over just because I had said something in a Wikileaks discussion.
Of course there is no real difference between them and Scoobynet except that SN is less likely to be subpoenaed by the US government I guess.... espcially given its broadly right wing demographic... more likely they would give the place a pat on the back
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12141530
Twitter has always pointed out that it complies with all local laws etc. but has also prided itself on being a place for frank and open exchanges.
If it now complies with the order how many people are going to feel comfortable about using it.
I stay away from FB and Twitter and the likes for other reasons, but I am not sure I would be too happy about them handing my details over just because I had said something in a Wikileaks discussion.
Of course there is no real difference between them and Scoobynet except that SN is less likely to be subpoenaed by the US government I guess.... espcially given its broadly right wing demographic... more likely they would give the place a pat on the back
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Originally Posted by f1 fan
The Internet - be careful what you say.
With the reference to Twitter, Courtney Love has been taken to the court of no love by someone she apparently psychotweeted against. It's all getting very serious there.
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The trouble is there is generation growing up who think that what they do online is immune form the law. It's why they don't steal DVDs but think nothing of downlaoding films illegally from Torrent sites and the lieks and then actually think that makes them smart.
What this case shows is that you are actually less immune than you probably were before the net existed as anything you do online is logged.
The veil of anonymity makes people think they are safe to say and do what they like, nothing could be further from the truth in reality. We even see it on here with libellous comments being thrown around for fun and one day something said even on a little forum like this will come back and bite someone on the ***.
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That little lot should set a siren off somewhere in Langley
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That made me laugh, have you actually read some of the words in there? froglegs?
08 January 2011, 05:54 PM
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That little lot should set a siren off somewhere in Langley
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If it does IB, will have your guts for garters for posting that 
Originally Posted by f1 fan
Of course there is no real difference between them and Scoobynet except that SN is less likely to be subpoenaed by the US government I guess.... espcially given its broadly right wing demographic... more likely they would give the place a pat on the back
(guess where SN's servers live
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Ace. At least it'll be ****ing warm!
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I suspect SN is safe - unless the seven are members on here. Maybe Julian Assange is PSLewis?!
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SN mnybe safe from the US government as far as Wiklileaks goes, but my pioint is that what you write on a forum is not immune from the law and you can't just go hurling baseless accusations around thinking you are safe.
Something a few on here would do well to remember.
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Yes I know it is only seven for now, but it is the precedent that is being set that is interesting.
SN mnybe safe from the US government as far as Wiklileaks goes, but my pioint is that what you write on a forum is not immune from the law and you can't just go hurling baseless accusations around thinking you are safe.
Something a few on here would do well to remember.
SN mnybe safe from the US government as far as Wiklileaks goes, but my pioint is that what you write on a forum is not immune from the law and you can't just go hurling baseless accusations around thinking you are safe.
Something a few on here would do well to remember.
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At least the Merkins are following the law 
Our plod has spent the last ten months eating doughnuts before trying to avoid due process and having a tantrum when Google ask them to follow the rules - see Google battles Derby cops over access to Street View data
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