Government defends £1bn of aid to India
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Government defends £1bn of aid to India
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-dev...-1bn-aid-india
Decision to maintain aid of £280m a year likely to infuriate some MPs, who believe UK should not give aid to a nation that spends £20bn a year on defence
^^^And doesn't that say it all.
So we the citizens of this country are expected to put up with cuts to our services due to no money available. We are expected to embrace The Big Society and help out volunteer to keep services open and available due to cuts and no money.
Yet we can give 280m a year until 2015 to a country on the up, a country with an emerging economy. A country with a nuclear weapons programme so hardly skint itself.
Do we have to help everybody and put the rest of the world before ourselves? - is 1bn over 4 years pocket change???
India has the capacity and ability be a global player and is emerging as such so why do we need to spend this money???
And do not tell me it is to guarantee future trade because all that means is the money is a thinly disguised BRIBE!
Decision to maintain aid of £280m a year likely to infuriate some MPs, who believe UK should not give aid to a nation that spends £20bn a year on defence
^^^And doesn't that say it all.
So we the citizens of this country are expected to put up with cuts to our services due to no money available. We are expected to embrace The Big Society and help out volunteer to keep services open and available due to cuts and no money.
Yet we can give 280m a year until 2015 to a country on the up, a country with an emerging economy. A country with a nuclear weapons programme so hardly skint itself.
Do we have to help everybody and put the rest of the world before ourselves? - is 1bn over 4 years pocket change???
India has the capacity and ability be a global player and is emerging as such so why do we need to spend this money???
And do not tell me it is to guarantee future trade because all that means is the money is a thinly disguised BRIBE!
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Couldn't agree more and who cares if it is a drop in the ocean. It's the principle of the matter. As we have all said on here we need a government with a spine and who actually wants to put the UK's inhabitants first!!
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The sad fact is that 42% of the worlds malnourished children are from India though.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...#ixzz1DtL232ND
Unfortunately there is little inclanation to help these people as they are deemed bottom feeders.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...#ixzz1DtL232ND
Unfortunately there is little inclanation to help these people as they are deemed bottom feeders.
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The sad fact is that 42% of the worlds malnourished children are from India though.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...#ixzz1DtL232ND
Unfortunately there is little inclanation to help these people as they are deemed bottom feeders.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...#ixzz1DtL232ND
Unfortunately there is little inclanation to help these people as they are deemed bottom feeders.
If India was skint - had no money then it would not be so bad, the right thing to do even, but this is so obviously not the case.
Shame on you Cameron!
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At the risk of being piloried, this aid is already supporting the UK economy and jobs with BAE having signed a £500m deal to supply aircraft (The one big example I could find). $25bn worth of Indian aerospace contracts have been signed over the last couple of years and and a further $41bn of contracts up for grabs in the Indian aerospace sector (according to KPMG).
OK Paul, so it's a bribe if you like but so what if it helps in support the UK economy, create jobs in the UK and provide a return on investment?
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OK Paul, so it's a bribe if you like but so what if it helps in support the UK economy, create jobs in the UK and provide a return on investment?
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At the risk of being piloried, this aid is already supporting the UK economy and jobs with BAE having signed a £500m deal to supply aircraft (The one big example I could find). $25bn worth of Indian aerospace contracts have been signed over the last couple of years and and a further $41bn of contracts up for grabs in the Indian aerospace sector (according to KPMG).
OK Paul, so it's a bribe if you like but so what if it helps in support the UK economy, create jobs in the UK and provide a return on investment?
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OK Paul, so it's a bribe if you like but so what if it helps in support the UK economy, create jobs in the UK and provide a return on investment?
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Are you saying that without paying 1bn we would not win the contracts on our own merits - in which case the money is just that - A BRIBE to guarantee business.
India exports goods and services to the UK amongst many countries and vies versa and that is trade, not blackmail and bribery and trade is how it should be!
If India has 25-40bn to spend on defence then surely this money would be better spent on the people, on housing, on infrastructure, on education, on healthcare, on feeding kids. Who exactly are they afraid of - Pakistan - OK then spending more and more on defence will just escalate as the other side tries to keep up - it is a vicious circle and one they should be able to resolve instead of the people in India suffering and the services and people back in the UK also suffering with cutbacks - not just libraries, but care of children, of elderly of the vulnerable of the sick.
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I would rather UK bribed/invested in India to try and keep it on our side in the future. As just said aid can also pay dividends in trade deals.
My personal take it that I would rather see my tax spent on helping out starving people rather than spending billions on things like Trident and pretending that UK is still at the "Top Table" of world politics (which incidentally makes us more of a target for terrorist attacks).
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My personal take it that I would rather see my tax spent on helping out starving people rather than spending billions on things like Trident and pretending that UK is still at the "Top Table" of world politics (which incidentally makes us more of a target for terrorist attacks).
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Erm, why does TATA not fund this. Oh, sorry, we bailed them out too.
The only good of this is if this allows us to "use" India as some sort of UK owned workhouse to compete with China. China will eventually self-consume itself in about 20 years, by which time, India will be in full swing.
My kitchen worktops came from India...probably chipped out of a rock face by an eight year old. If aid does something to stop this, or is used to prevent al qaeda getting a foothold, then I'll be a little less concerned. However if its wasted on government bureaucracy and military posturing then it is money down the drain.
The only good of this is if this allows us to "use" India as some sort of UK owned workhouse to compete with China. China will eventually self-consume itself in about 20 years, by which time, India will be in full swing.
My kitchen worktops came from India...probably chipped out of a rock face by an eight year old. If aid does something to stop this, or is used to prevent al qaeda getting a foothold, then I'll be a little less concerned. However if its wasted on government bureaucracy and military posturing then it is money down the drain.
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I would rather UK bribed/invested in India to try and keep it on our side in the future. As just said aid can also pay dividends in trade deals.
My personal take it that I would rather see my tax spent on helping out starving people rather than spending billions on things like Trident and pretending that UK is still at the "Top Table" of world politics (which incidentally makes us more of a target for terrorist attacks).
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My personal take it that I would rather see my tax spent on helping out starving people rather than spending billions on things like Trident and pretending that UK is still at the "Top Table" of world politics (which incidentally makes us more of a target for terrorist attacks).
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Exactly, aircraft carriers and Trident are useless for our modern enemy; the Terrorist.
As for pirates...let the oil companies fund the aircraft carriers to police the waters (they aren't even "our" waters ).
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And what makes it even more annoying is the Indians have apparently turned round and said "We dont need it and we wont be upset or hold it against you if you keep the money", and they're still giving away our much needed money
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We have to be fair to the politicians of course. It is terribly important to them personally to be loved by all the other world leaders, or to appear so at least, they have to ensure they keep their feet under the world conference tables. They love to feel important!
So dishing out someone else's cash to maintain the status quo is the obvious thing to do, under the pretence of it being our duty to support states with a booming economy.
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So dishing out someone else's cash to maintain the status quo is the obvious thing to do, under the pretence of it being our duty to support states with a booming economy.
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its very easy to quantify how much aid, very difficult to quantify how much we get in return in contracts, sales markets etc
think thats the issue, i'd be very suprised if we don't get more back than we give.
think thats the issue, i'd be very suprised if we don't get more back than we give.
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Though this concept of aid to certain countries at times like this seems illogical as mentioned by some others we probably get more back in deals, especially defence contracts
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